Rumor: LeBrun: Flames Remain Interested in Cozens

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I don't really get what Buffalo fans are saying. Sure, they don't have to trade him, and that's probably the right thing to do. But why would any team give up a player better than Cozens ("top 6 centre better than Cozens") for Cozens? It makes literally no sense.

When players like this are traded, unless Cozens is going as part of a package for a much better player, the team trading the key player (i.e Buffalo) usually loses the deal.
See: every previous Buffalo trade, JT Miller, Mark Stone, Jake Guentzel, Alex DeBrincat, Bo Horvat, Matthew Tkachuk, etc..

That is literally what Buffalo fans have been saying from the get. Use other pieces and Cozens to upgrade on Cozens. Nobody is asking for Petterson for Cozens straight up or whatever other fantasy you have concocted in your head.

You have literally stated our position. Keep him or use him in a larger package for an upgrade.
 
Sure, that's a fair way to look at it. Though that's not really what has happened for the last 10+ guys that had rumors around them like this that came to fruition.

Keep in mind any team that has a better player to trade also wants sure assets, not a player with some question marks like Cozens.
Maybe
Just think they will keep him if the return sucks

What’s the saying buy high, sell low?
 
I would personally want a better player than Evans. If Montreal were dealing, I'd be seeing if Slaf could be part of a deal (I doubt he would be but that's who I would try to work around). I think the Habs are bad trade partners.

Cozens for that package makes sense in a vacuum, but not from my view based on where I would build my team
No , and you will be dissapointed if you think that's the kind of players you will receive
 
I still feel if Calgary wants Cozens that Weegar would have to be on the table.

Something like Cozens and Jokiharju for Weegar and a dude
 
I still feel if Calgary wants Cozens that Weegar would have to be on the table.

Something like Cozens and Jokiharju for Weegar and a dude
I don't see Calgary going for that. Joker has very little value, like maybe a mid-round pick at this point. Cozens has shown some really good production in the past, but is mired in a very long slump. I'm sure teams are interested in him, but at this moment this isn't 30 goal Dylan Cozens we're taking calls on. Weegar is a solid, top pair, RHD with term. Those guys are worth a lot.
 
They tried the first of the two WHL centers drafted early in 2019 who might have hockey IQ issues in Dach, now they need to try the second?

No idea what we would offer. It’s probably Dach+ or Newhook+. Something like that.

I see the Sabres needing a RD so maybe Mailloux is one of the + on top of Dach or Newhook. I would be surprised if we have Reinbacher on the table

Doubt the Habs go any deeper than that. Sabres save cap space in this deal as well

Division trade so that’s difficult usually
 
No idea what we would offer. It’s probably Dach+ or Newhook+. Something like that.

I see the Sabres needing a RD so maybe Mailloux is one of the + on top of Dach or Newhook.

Doubt the Habs go any deeper than that. Sabres save cap space in this deal as well

Sabres don't need to save cap space, unlike most of the rest of the league.

Given Dach's history, would rather pass on him. Rarely seen someone injured so often.
 
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Sabres don't need to save cap space, unlike most of the rest of the league.

Given Dach's history, would rather pass on him. Rarely seen someone injured so often.

I understand.. I was just spitballing on what angle Gorton and Hughes are coming from. Would they trade Reinbacher? It’s not a 100% no but I doubt it
 
Dach and Mailloux are the best guess I can come up with for what the Habs may be offering. I just don’t see anything else that would work.. from our side anyways.

Only other thing I can think about is maybe pieces like Newhook, Beck, and one of our 1sts are involved

A signed Evans, Mailloux, Flames 1st?
 
Those are the players Buffalo are going for… They’re not taking pics and prospects. Therefore it’s an equivalent level player of the same age or they’re adding to cozens for a better player.

I can see the Sabres open to this..

* Young roster player proven in the NHL and still under RFA control. Still has potential and not in prime years yet

* RD prospect close to NHL ready

* Pick
 
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There is isn't much I wouldn't put on the table for Cozens.

Cowan, Minten, Danford, 1st round picks there isn't much that wouldn't be available.

That being said I think it's a HUGE mistake for Buffalo to be trading him in general, I don't understand why they are doing this.

I don't think they are going to make that mistake even bigger by trading him within the Atlantic division.

I don't see him going to Toronto, Detroit or Montreal because trading him to a division rival would be profoundly stupid
 
I wonder what Kevin Adams has done as Sabres GM for their fans to think he gets returns they are saying in this thread
Fans can be anchored to the bias they themselves have on the price to let go of a player. It can either be directly tied to the player, or to the potential return. Cut Sabres fans some slack, they’ve had a rough 14 yr go. That’s an entire generation of western New York youth who haven’t seen their local nhl team sniff the playoffs most of that time.
 
No , and you will be dissapointed if you think that's the kind of players you will receive
I dont think it is. It's the person I'd try to build a deal around, but that's because I dont really think Montreal is a good trading partner. I dont expect Montreal to deal Slaf, but if they called about Cozens and said what do you want, Slaf is my answer back and Montreal is free to hang up
 
I don't see Calgary going for that. Joker has very little value, like maybe a mid-round pick at this point. Cozens has shown some really good production in the past, but is mired in a very long slump. I'm sure teams are interested in him, but at this moment this isn't 30 goal Dylan Cozens we're taking calls on. Weegar is a solid, top pair, RHD with term. Those guys are worth a lot.

The dude is just that, Jokiharju is just meant to fill the RHD spot for you guys
 
I actually hate Adams, but he got decent returns on his trades, he just doesn't understand how to build a team properly and didn't do enough to improve the team before each season.

Yeah, I don't get that comment when his recent trade was Mittelstadt for Byram.

From flames pov, I wonder if Cozens is actually a smokescreen for something else. Like trying to wear down Adam's to attempt Krebs or Jokiharju for a song and dance kinda thing.

Conroy for sure would take Adam's to the cleaners of Adams marked the prices wrong on any other pieces though.
 
Yeah, I don't get that comment when his recent trade was Mittelstadt for Byram.

From flames pov, I wonder if Cozens is actually a smokescreen for something else. Like trying to wear down Adam's to attempt Krebs or Jokiharju for a song and dance kinda thing.

Conroy for sure would take Adam's to the cleaners of Adams marked the prices wrong on any other pieces though.
I think you can get Jokiharju for a mid-round pick or something. Krebs is a bit of an oddball, not a fan of him, but selling him too cheaply doesn't seem like a good idea either. But I'd be interested in someone like Coleman or Pospisil with add pick from Sabres if needed.
 
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