Rumor: LeBrun: Flames Remain Interested in Cozens

[Seattle King]

Kings would love to bring in Cozens, a right shot and west coast guy. Unfortunately the disgusting filth known as Rob Blake is our GM and wasted all of our trade ammo on fkn PLD the shitbag. Blake is so stupid that he actually drafted Alex Turcotte instead of the obviously superior Cozens.

 

[CowbellConray]

So...Habs or Calgary 1st would be your 1 for 1 pick range. Absolutely done deal from this Habs fan if that was your meaning.

A Dach for Cozens swap doesn't really make sense. The other pieces we have that fit this category are...Evans (if you consider him a #3C) and Matheson (slightly outside of you 26-29 range). Guhle would also fit as a top 4 but he is also outside of your target range age wise - and Habs can't afford to lose him.

So what if we went for a deal around Evans?

Evans (#3C) + worse of Habs 1st rounders (likely 11-18) + Mailloux.

I've overshot what you stated above to keep other Buffalo fans off my back.

I would personally want a better player than Evans. If Montreal were dealing, I'd be seeing if Slaf could be part of a deal (I doubt he would be but that's who I would try to work around). I think the Habs are bad trade partners.

Cozens for that package makes sense in a vacuum, but not from my view based on where I would build my team

 

[LokiDog]

My gut tells me Cozens is absolutely the next Eichel, Reinhart, O’Reilly if Buffalo quits on him this early. That’s not a good place for young guys to develop right now. Cozens has always been lauded for a work ethic but with minimal structure and guidance, he’s just a young kid spinning his wheels. He’s about to turn 24. Still plenty of time and as others have pointed out, already has a 30 goal, 68 point aeason under his belt. All the tools are there, and so is the toolbox. He needs an environment where the tools are organized for optimization. If Buffalo gives up on him it will be a mistake. They need to insulate the chosen 6ish under 25 players they want to keep with actual quality veterans and leaders.

 

[Fjordy]

My gut tells me Cozens is absolutely the next Eichel, Reinhart, O’Reilly if Buffalo quits on him this early. That’s not a good place for young guys to develop right now. Cozens has always been lauded for a work ethic but with minimal structure and guidance, he’s just a young kid spinning his wheels. He’s about to turn 24. Still plenty of time and as others have pointed out, already has a 30 goal, 68 point aeason under his belt. All the tools are there, and so is the toolbox. He needs an environment where the tools are organized for optimization. If Buffalo gives up on him it will be a mistake. They need to insulate the chosen 6ish under 25 players they want to keep with actual quality veterans and leaders.

He plays with two vets Zucker and Tuch and he's not very good either, he just doesn't look like a center, but they don't want to play him on the wing, which I don't understand.

 

[BHawk21]

Legit top 6 player, preferably center. RHD capable of playing in the top 4 (ie, playing with Power or Dahlin).

In an ideal world, Cozens is used as part of a package with some of our desireable parts to upgrade.

I seriously dont know is Cozens not a legit top 6 player?

 

[Breakers]

Coronato goes home
Cozens heads back out west

 

[HighLifeMan]

Coronato goes home
Cozens heads back out west

And why does Calgary give up the younger, more productive, significantly cheaper player?

 

[Jimmybarndoor2]

Sabres would be idiots if they trade cozens. He has size and playmaking ability.

They are not going to give up on him yet. If he gets traded it’s for a better player and he would be part of the package. That’s why EP made some sense

 

[toddkaz]

Cozens for Andersson or Buffalo keeps Cozens.

And why does Calgary give up the younger, more productive, significantly cheaper player?

Because you want him. Well not you, but your team.

 

[Fjordy]

Sabres would be idiots if they trade cozens. He has size and playmaking ability.

They are not going to give up on him yet. If he gets traded it’s for a better player and he would be part of the package. That’s why EP made some sense

Where is his playmaking ability? Something is not visible, then Krebs has that too. He does not have an IQ, and his size does not help him, because he does not play that game. I won't even mention the game on PP, it's just a disgrace from Cozens,

 

[Chainshot]

Coronato goes home
Cozens heads back out west

There are ten other teams closer to Huntington, NY than Buffalo is (Boston, NYI, NYR, Jersey, Philly, Pittsburgh, Washington, Montreal, Ottawa and the Hurricanes) by car. Columbus is almost the same distance. "Home" is not really the thing. NY is not a small state and Huntington, while not the farthest point from Buffalo, is only about 2 hours drive from the tip of Long Island.

 

[Volica]

Cozens for Andersson or Buffalo keeps Cozens.


Because you want him. Well not you, but your team.

I think a lot of Flames fans would be open to the movement of Andersson.
I don't think the team is. Sounds like the only way they move Rasmus is if they wind up in the same situation as Hanifin, which is holding onto him for too long until it's clear he won't re-sign and then you trade him for less than you could have the summer/deadline before.

While I think Calgary wants Cozens, I don't think it's at the expense of Matt Coronato. More points than Cozens has already, one of our more 'creative' or skilled guys we have on the roster.

Really think Calgary's only going to move NHL-level youth (like Pelletier) when they're clearly winning deals.

 

[tsujimoto74]

What does Buffalo even want/need?

- Top 4 *defensive* RHD (we don’t need anymore puck-movers and we have 0 space for a D that needs PP time to be effective)

- A better center than Dylan Cozens

- Like 3 more Jason Zuckers (veterans who are still quality, effective players, not just wastes of space who have been in the league for 10-15 years)

 

[FlyguyOX]

- Top 4 *defensive* RHD (we don’t need anymore puck-movers and we have 0 space for a D that needs PP time to be effective)

- A better center than Dylan Cozens

- Like 3 more Jason Zuckers (veterans who are still quality, effective players, not just wastes of space who have been in the league for 10-15 years)

Ristolainen
Cates
Laughton, Hathaway, Nick seeler

 

[tsujimoto74]

Ristolainen
Cates
Laughton, Hathaway, Nick seeler

You’re joking right

 

[Figgy44]

Cozens for Andersson or Buffalo keeps Cozens.


Because you want him. Well not you, but your team.

Conroy has interest. He's not a dude with a shopping habit. As mentioned by a few Flames fans, not sure how that might look, but it doesn't seem like there's an obvious fit between the two teams. Thus, the odds of an actual trade between the two orgs for Cozens is probably low.

I'd love a Lomberg jersey for shits and giggles (seriously, I would). But I wouldn't want the irony of being knocked TF out by my wife for blowing grocery budget on something like that I don't need. I'd ask for forgiveness and not permission if it was like 80% off without him being traded though.

I think that's the same with Conroy. He'd do it if it's discounted and the right pieces, but not for full freight. I also think Conroy wouldn't acquire Cozens as a C without contingency. I think he'd consider having Cozens as a winger on a line with someone else who is a C in a manner where they'd share C duties (ie: Monahan/Lindholm). If Cozens figures out to be a full time winger, bonus. If not, he's still a good option on the wing, and Flames could really use some extra righties in their top 9.

 

[Kranix]

Buffalo needs more elite, top-end, blue chip prospects like Peyton Krebs, the key piece of the Eichel deal that they had to have.

 

[GarlicbreadTB]

 

[Bond]

I think a lot of Flames fans would be open to the movement of Andersson.
I don't think the team is. Sounds like the only way they move Rasmus is if they wind up in the same situation as Hanifin, which is holding onto him for too long until it's clear he won't re-sign and then you trade him for less than you could have the summer/deadline before.

While I think Calgary wants Cozens, I don't think it's at the expense of Matt Coronato. More points than Cozens has already, one of our more 'creative' or skilled guys we have on the roster.

Really think Calgary's only going to move NHL-level youth (like Pelletier) when they're clearly winning deals.

I think it’s more Andersson isn’t interested in going to Buffalo more than anything. The Flames don’t really have an equivalent struggling guy like Cozens or a vet without a NTC that makes sense for them.

It is basically Sharangovich and that does not make sense for Buffalo.

 

[Jimmybarndoor2]

Where is his playmaking ability? Something is not visible, then Krebs has that too. He does not have an IQ, and his size does not help him, because he does not play that game. I won't even mention the game on PP, it's just a disgrace from Cozens,

I think it’s too early to give up on him
I think some players have had some problems adjusting to ruff style. I think it causes him and others to “think” rather than play. I think you are starting to see some adjustment from cozens as of late showing playing rather than thinking.

 

[Volica]

I think it’s more Andersson isn’t interested in going to Buffalo more than anything. The Flames don’t really have an equivalent struggling guy like Cozens or a vet without a NTC that makes sense for them.

It is basically Sharangovich and that does not make sense for Buffalo.

I mean it's a 6 team no-trade list, and unfortunately Buffalo might be on that.

 

[EveryDay]

Weekes.... he's becoming Dreger 2.0.

 

[Chainshot]

Weekes.... he's becoming Dreger 2.0.

If so, soon Weekes will also be fluffing certain agents players too. Dreger truly is the dregs.

 

[Chainshot]

Buffalo needs more elite, top-end, blue chip prospects like Peyton Krebs, the key piece of the Eichel deal that they had to have.

Weirdly, they did right by some of their other prospects but the same thing they did initially to Mittelstadt and Thompson was what they did to Krebs. He should've been playing in the AHL right out of the gate in Buffalo and instead wound up stuffed into the lineup. Adams certainly tried to justify his choices in the same way that Botterill had done before him and to the detriment of all the players involved - Casey and Tage took forever to get close to their potential and Peyton still struggles to be anything other than a light depth energy player.

 

[FlyguyOX]

You’re joking right

Fits what you said you needed *kanye shrug*. Isn't sexy but sabres would be SIGNIFICANTLY better.