Post-Game Talk: Leafs smoke Flames 6-2

Not sure which is more embarrassing - - the bandwagon jumpers chanting “we want Florida” after winning the first round, or the bridge jumper who want to blow up the most talented team Toronto has had in over 50 years.

They actually said both. They were chanting we want Boston. We want Florida.

We probably didn’t want either.
 
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I love how people assume the “we want Florida” even had anything to do with Florida at all. Seems to me it was more of a middle finger to Boston.
 
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I love how people assume the “we want Florida” even had anything to do with Florida at all. Seems to me it was more of a middle finger to Boston.
This, but I'd say it was more tongue in cheek than a middle finger. Like of course we'll lose to Boston
 
Good option may be taking the hit to make the play. It frequently is, but Marner seems to avoid that option, which is the whole point.

You can't see that Nylander processes the game a lot faster than most players, and yes, even Marner?

1-you acting like Nylander accept to take much more hit than marner when it's not the case at all

-this year the difference between both is 6 hit( 1 hit every 8 game)
-Last 3 year Nylander took less hit than marner.

So for you that's what's really made
difference between both?!?!?!

2- Nylander having a great vision and ability to adapt pretty quickly but no he's not able to anticipate what's other will do like Marner doing. Marner is a top 5 in NHL in this part of the game and #1 reason why he's pretty strong to create takeaway( only Slavin had been better in that category with 1 more takeaway). Ability to see what's gonna happen before everyone else
 
5 games from Saturday to Saturday, they’re going to be pretty cooked by the time they get back out to the west coast.
 
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Just my opinion, but in every sport it feels like there are a set number of marquee teams and markets and when they get to the finals or win a championship there’s a real buzz and it energizes and elevates the sport in pop culture. Aka when the Los Angeles Dodgers win the World Series. Good for the Panthers but that’s not them.
Only the Original Six teams ( and maybe the Flyers or Kings to a lesser extent) can qualify as marquee franchises in the NHL. If one of the Maple Leafs, Bruins, Red Wings, Blackhawks, Canadiens,or Rangers advances to the finals or wins the Stanley Cup, it feels very different than the other teams making it or winning the Stanley cup. The Flyers back to back titles in the mid 1970s brought 2 millions on broad street (philly’s yonge street ) for each parade. When the rangers won in 1994, the media coverage on that team, and the buzz/hype around them was off the charts. Game 7 of Bruins/Canucks in 2011 (the Bruins won the cup that night ) was the most viewed cup final game in years. The success of the Blackhawks (they won 3 Stanley cups won between 2010 and 2015) literally rejuvenated hockey fandom in Chicago and created a massive fanbase.

Imagine how crazy the media coverage, public interest, buzz/hype, etc would be if the Leafs finally make it to the cup finals, or even better win the cup after multiple decades of pure frustration since 1967. Leafs winning the cup would be as big or bigger than the Red Sox triumph in 2004, the 2016 Chicago cubs World Series title (their first title since 1908) or the 2017-18 Philadelphia eagles when it comes to cultural and historical significance, cultural/financial/social impact on the city, meaning to the fanbase, media hype and coverage, and buzz all across the sports world. It would truly be a watershed historical moment in pop culture/hockey/sports history.

The NHL as a product would be revitalized and would re-capture its top dog status in Canada, among Canadian sports fans. The last time a Canadian team won the cup was 1993. In the context of the current hostile political climate, with a dangerous and delusional president Trump and his MAGA henchmen plotting from the White House the invasion and annexation of our lovely country to the United States, the Leafs finally bringing back home Lord’s Stanley Cup in the next few years, would actually give massive status and prestige to their brand. The Leafs breaking the Canadian cup drought and culturally restoring the glory and supremacy of hockey in this country would create new generations of fans for the team. We would finally stop consistently eulogizing the 1992-93 team of destiny who went all the way to the conference finals, forever.

Only the NY Knicks ( their last NBA Championship was won in 1973 ) drought and cultural importance to their city is comparable to the Maple Leafs drought and cultural importance to Toronto. New York is the Mecca of basketball just like Toronto is the Mecca of hockey. Just like basketball and the Knicks in New York have deep roots and long history in New York’s social fabric and sports culture, hockey and the Maple Leafs have deep roots and long history in Toronto’s social fabric and sports culture. They are the biggest source of Civic pride for people here.

I thought about adding the Penguins to that list, but even though they won five Stanley cup titles, in fact they’re still a small market team who came in the first wave of expansion and they only have some prestige because they had three generational and legendary players in their history.( Lemieux, Jagr, and Crosby)

The Oilers have Connor McDavid now and had Wayne Gretzky back in their glory years of the 1980s, but despite their rich history, multiple legendary players and multiple championships(5 Stanley cups), they don’t move the needle in North American sports and pop culture. They’re stuck in the same situation as the Pens.
 
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I'm getting pretty tired of FLA. Hoping that team drops to third and gets taken out in round one by Tampa Bay.

After about 30 years of irrelevance, they have a couple of SCF appearances in a row and win a Cup and now some of their fans talk as if they're the new Montreal Canadiens.
Parvenu franchise with newly arrived, annoying, nouveau riche, frontrunning fans.
 
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Boy oh boy did they ever need that, if that game had finished otherwise, the alarm bells would have been deafening.

Game well played both up and down the lineup.

The big boy is either over the injury and he's recovered both mentally and physically, or he's still hurt but he finally said "to he'll with it" and went into the trainers room, and took the shot! I don't think modern players really do that anymore. So I'll go with he's fully recovered, and from the first shift gave the effort required to be the games 1st Star.
 
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1-you acting like Nylander accept to take much more hit than marner when it's not the case at all

-this year the difference between both is 6 hit( 1 hit every 8 game)
-Last 3 year Nylander took less hit than marner.

So for you that's what's really made
difference between both?!?!?!

2- Nylander having a great vision and ability to adapt pretty quickly but no he's not able to anticipate what's other will do like Marner doing. Marner is a top 5 in NHL in this part of the game and #1 reason why he's pretty strong to create takeaway( only Slavin had been better in that category with 1 more takeaway). Ability to see what's gonna happen before everyone else
You're confused again - I wasn't comparing Marner avoiding contact to Nylander- that's your need showing.

Marner seems to be better at Matthews scoring. If you were watching the games you would see that Nylander makes even more and better setups, but it seems that Holmberg doesn't bury them as well as Matthews, so some people think that means Marner is a better passer.
 
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This isn’t an NHL ‘25 video game where a team can go 82-0, my friend.

There’s going to be ebbs and flows throughout the regular season. Being 2pts out of first place at this point in the season probably isn’t grounds for a complete tear down and rebuild.

No matter what you do short of playing every game yourself you are NOT going 82-0 in any NHL video game.

I have tried, I have turned the Leafs into team Canada with American and/or Russian goaltending.

The best I have ever done is 77-3-2
 
Yo dude, been meaning to tell you... I love your username and profile picture... I loved Alec Baldwin's The Shadow when I was a kid... shit I still do!

I didn't even know Alec Baldwin had a version of The Shadow. To me it will always be the radio program from way back in the day that CHUM FM used to play reruns of sometimes on Theatre of the Mind on Sunday nights when I was a kid in the 70s.
 
I didn't even know Alec Baldwin had a version of The Shadow. To me it will always be the radio program from way back in the day that CHUM FM used to play reruns of sometimes on Theatre of the Mind on Sunday nights when I was a kid in the 70s.

Film came out in 94 I think. Pretty cool if you ask me. Tim Curry was great in it.
 
You're confused again - I wasn't comparing Marner avoiding contact to Nylander- that's your need showing.

Marner seems to be better at Matthews scoring. If you were watching the games you would see that Nylander makes even more and better setups, but it seems that Holmberg doesn't bury them as well as Matthews, so some people think that means Marner is a better passer.

1- Marner is not one of best playmaker only because of his passing skill, its maybe like 20-30%. He's one of best playmaker and the best 2 way winger in the NHL because he having an incredible hockey IQ and anticipating the play extremely well and faster than anyone else. Its like a master chess player who always 2-3 shot in front anyone else. That's marner #1 skill

Like i said when Nylander saw a play, he having more skill and able to convert when he saw the play at higher rate than Marner but marner recognize what's happening on the ice much faster than Nylander. That's #1 difference between both. That's why every coach having so much trust in him. His understanding to the game is just to an other level. If you can't make the difference, i can't do anything more for you

-"He certainly doesn't throw the puck away to avoid getting hit, like some other RW on the team." If you didn't compare marner avoiding contact to Nylander, please tell me what it was because that's exactly what that said
 
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One of our best games of the year, we were dominant. Every line played great, the PP was excellent, we controlled possession, just a top notch performance. More of this please!
 
1- Marner is not one of best playmaker only because of his passing skill, its maybe like 20-30%. He's one of best playmaker and the best 2 way winger in the NHL because he having an incredible hockey IQ and anticipating the play extremely well and faster than anyone else. Its like a master chess player who always 2-3 shot in front anyone else. That's marner #1 skill

Like i said when Nylander saw a play, he having more skill and able to convert when he saw the play at higher rate than Marner but marner recognize what's happening on the ice much faster than Nylander. That's #1 difference between both. That's why every coach having so much trust in him. His understanding to the game is just to an other level. If you can't make the difference, i can't do anything more for you

-"He certainly doesn't throw the puck away to avoid getting hit, like some other RW on the team." If you didn't compare marner avoiding contact to Nylander, please tell me what it was because that's exactly what that said
Considering that you didn't even address my point, I guess we will just have to agree to disagree on which is the better player.

We have had at least half a dozen players playing right wing for the Leafs this year (Nylander is currently playing left wing, as he is easily the most versatile player on the team). You assumed I was comparing Marner and Nylander, I imagine because you feel a need to defend Marner even when he isn't the topic.
 
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Film came out in 94 I think. Pretty cool if you ask me. Tim Curry was great in it.

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Considering that you didn't even address my point, I guess we will just have to agree to disagree on which is the better player.

We have had at least half a dozen players playing right wing for the Leafs this year (Nylander is currently playing left wing, as he is easily the most versatile player on the team). You assumed I was comparing Marner and Nylander, I imagine because you feel a need to defend Marner even when he isn't the topic.

1- Nylander actually playing RW with Holmberg playing as left wing...

2-Amount leafs player, Nylander is amount player who took less hit/60 with Marner and Matthews... so outside of Marner honestly they all far in front of Nylander in that category ( so doesn't make sense at all). So again if it was not against Marner, i just don't know about who you're talking about sorry...


but not really a big deal, just mean he's elusive and able to avoid contact with their agility like Matthews and marner and like a lot of great player like Crosby, M. Tkachuk, ovechkin by exemple who all took less hit
 
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No matter what you do short of playing every game yourself you are NOT going 82-0 in any NHL video game.

I have tried, I have turned the Leafs into team Canada with American and/or Russian goaltending.

The best I have ever done is 77-3-2

That must have been really disappointing.
 
1- Nylander actually playing RW with Holmberg playing as left wing...

2-Amount leafs player, Nylander is amount player who took less hit/60 with Marner and Matthews... so outside of Marner honestly they all far in front of Nylander in that category ( so doesn't make sense at all). So again if it was not against Marner, i just don't know about who you're talking about sorry...


but not really a big deal, just mean he's elusive and able to avoid contact with their agility like Matthews and marner and like a lot of great player like Crosby, M. Tkachuk, ovechkin by exemple who all took less hit
1 - have you not been watching the games?
 

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