Confirmed with Link: Leafs sign Pacioretty and Lorentz - 1 year deals

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Wonder what move they're working on. I'm hoping it starts with the most useless player and playoff performer on the team being shipped out and yes I am talking about Jarnkrok
Reaves to the AHL is the solution you just described.

I'd like for more than 1 or 2 forwards on the team to know what the defensive end looks like.

Kampf and his $2.5 traded pretty please.

Actually I wouldn’t mind moving all 3 of Kampf, Jarnkrok and Reaves so we run a cheaper 4th line with Dewar, Holmberg, and maybe Lorentz. That new 3rd line would be about 3.3 m cheaper allowing some additional cap space to go for a more impact 3rd liner at the deadline I.e a Boone Jenner or Coleman type player.
 

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Dreger says Pacioretty has no guarantee, and has to earn a contract.

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Yet he’s expected to be a mainstay as a left winger in Tre’s opinion………

 

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Yet he’s expected to be a mainstay as a left winger in Tre’s opinion………

“We brought Max in about a month ago for a couple of days, where he was very open to a medical exam, but also got on the ice for us,” Treliving revealed “He feels he’s had two and a half years, where he really hasn’t had the opportunity to train, it’s been (mostly) re-habbing. “Now he was able to have a full summer of training He came back last year (in Washington), jumped in halfway through the season and at the end of the year, felt he wasn’t where he wanted to be physically

I said earlier, I don't love the signing, but the bolded makes a big difference. Tearing your achilies tendon twice back to back is some real bad luck.
 
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“We brought Max in about a month ago for a couple of days, where he was very open to a medical exam, but also got on the ice for us,” Treliving revealed “He feels he’s had two and a half years, where he really hasn’t had the opportunity to train, it’s been (mostly) re-habbing. “Now he was able to have a full summer of training He came back last year (in Washington), jumped in halfway through the season and at the end of the year, felt he wasn’t where he wanted to be physically

I said earlier, I don't love the signing, but the bolded makes a big difference. Tearing your achilies tendon twice back to back is some real bad luck.

Agreed a full summer of training means a lot but not sure taking an athletes opinion really means a heck of a lot, otherwise I would have been the Jays starting 2B for the last 30 years ;) . End of the day I would have preferred Tree to say something along the lines of , we put him through the paces, challenging physical testing, with our medical staff, pro scouting and our training staff and we feel he is ready to be a value player for the Leafs. I'm sure they did do some testing but for me a trained professional opinion means a lot more to me than a guy who is clinging on to a job in the NHL. I'm starting to get the impression Tree's UFA assessment is based on ancient history and not assessing the player as who they are today. Hakinpaa, Klingberg and Reaves are three that stick out as WTF are we doing signings. In the past all three were among the best at what they did but now...not so much..
 
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“We brought Max in about a month ago for a couple of days, where he was very open to a medical exam, but also got on the ice for us,” Treliving revealed “He feels he’s had two and a half years, where he really hasn’t had the opportunity to train, it’s been (mostly) re-habbing. “Now he was able to have a full summer of training He came back last year (in Washington), jumped in halfway through the season and at the end of the year, felt he wasn’t where he wanted to be physically

I said earlier, I don't love the signing, but the bolded makes a big difference. Tearing your achilies tendon twice back to back is some real bad luck.

Well, good thing is LTIR is a thing.

Could be Father Time has been trying to tell Pacioretty something?
 
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“We brought Max in about a month ago for a couple of days, where he was very open to a medical exam, but also got on the ice for us,” Treliving revealed “He feels he’s had two and a half years, where he really hasn’t had the opportunity to train, it’s been (mostly) re-habbing. “Now he was able to have a full summer of training He came back last year (in Washington), jumped in halfway through the season and at the end of the year, felt he wasn’t where he wanted to be physically

I said earlier, I don't love the signing, but the bolded makes a big difference. Tearing your achilies tendon twice back to back is some real bad luck.
This us the quote I was referencing…….

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“We’re excited to see Max, get him up to speed. Everyone is competing for a job, but my expectation is he’s going to be with us (for the full season.
 

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Well, good thing is LTIR is a thing.

Could be Father Time has been trying to tell Pacioretty something?
Sadly this group of acquired vets have the potential to have a IR poker tournament as opposed to the usual foursome playing euchre, hope I’m wrong, but it’s a risk. If all these vets can stay healthy I think Tre will look like a genius, if not then he’s going to look like a fool. And that’s only addressing this year, more potential in years to come. I’m not saying I don’t like the likes of Tanev and company, but it’s a high risk high reward move imo…….
 

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Well, good thing is LTIR is a thing.

Could be Father Time has been trying to tell Pacioretty something?
It could be or he has just had to deal with injuries that come with the job. They can come at any age. The PTO will give the team some indication
 

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Actually I wouldn’t mind moving all 3 of Kampf, Jarnkrok and Reaves so we run a cheaper 4th line with Dewar, Holmberg, and maybe Lorentz. That new 3rd line would be about 3.3 m cheaper allowing some additional cap space to go for a more impact 3rd liner at the deadline I.e a Boone Jenner or Coleman type player.

That 4th line is going to get scored on a fair bit I'd think.

They should have just not signed Reaves and not traded for Dewar, they had the perfect shutdown line last year: Holmberg - Kampf - Jarnkrok.
 

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Sadly this group of acquired vets have the potential to have a IR poker tournament as opposed to the usual foursome playing euchre, hope I’m wrong, but it’s a risk. If all these vets can stay healthy I think Tre will look like a genius, if not then he’s going to look like a fool. And that’s only addressing this year, more potential in years to come. I’m not saying I don’t like the likes of Tanev and company, but it’s a high risk high reward move imo…….

They'd better hope some of their youngsters will be ready within a couple years.

Webber is already 23, Niemela 22, Rafai 26 ... anyone up for the challenge?
 
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Over 24% of his total goals scored in his career were PP goals. If he doesn't play in PP1 he isn't going to score 20, period.
The guy was still scoring 20+ goals at 5v5 though or at a 20+ goal pace at 5v5 over a 82 game season. Did that playing with Mark Stone and Chandler Stephenson in Vegas recently. Montreal he didn't exactly have amazing linemates either and did the same thing. The guy can score goals and seeing him with Seth Jarvis and Sebastian Aho in their short time together showed that Patches can still help a line dominate when they are on the ice and put the puck in the net. Idk if he'll play in the top 6 or if the plan is to have Nylander be the 3C with Patches on his wing or not, but he should be able to do the same here with the many playmakers we have and players who aren't afraid to control the puck more themselves so players like Patches can find the openings for a one timer.
 

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The guy was still scoring 20+ goals at 5v5 though or at a 20+ goal pace at 5v5 over a 82 game season. Did that playing with Mark Stone and Chandler Stephenson in Vegas recently. Montreal he didn't exactly have amazing linemates either and did the same thing. The guy can score goals and seeing him with Seth Jarvis and Sebastian Aho in their short time together showed that Patches can still help a line dominate when they are on the ice and put the puck in the net. Idk if he'll play in the top 6 or if the plan is to have Nylander be the 3C with Patches on his wing or not, but he should be able to do the same here with the many playmakers we have and players who aren't afraid to control the puck more themselves so players like Patches can find the openings for a one timer.
He is in his late 30s after a couple of surgeries. Lower your expectations.
 

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Leafs probably hoping to get this version of Pacioretty


I think the general consensus was that he was bad in Washington.

Also, pretty much every goal in this highlight is based strictly on his shot, he gets a pass and shoots.

Not a bad thing, but looks like he relies on others.

Not sure this is the case though, just what I noticed from the clip.

The guy was still scoring 20+ goals at 5v5 though or at a 20+ goal pace at 5v5 over a 82 game season. Did that playing with Mark Stone and Chandler Stephenson in Vegas recently. Montreal he didn't exactly have amazing linemates either and did the same thing. The guy can score goals and seeing him with Seth Jarvis and Sebastian Aho in their short time together showed that Patches can still help a line dominate when they are on the ice and put the puck in the net. Idk if he'll play in the top 6 or if the plan is to have Nylander be the 3C with Patches on his wing or not, but he should be able to do the same here with the many playmakers we have and players who aren't afraid to control the puck more themselves so players like Patches can find the openings for a one timer.

Robertson was scoring at a 20 goal pace with worse players, give the kids a look.
 

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Pacioretty hasn't been very good the past two years. He's really looked completely cooked. Now the question becomes, is that father time, or is that the injuries, and a lack of training? What if he has fully recovered, and is finally back in shape? His last two seasons, before these injuries he was PPG. I guess that's the gamble... hope he's healthy enough, and will stay healthy, and be that kind of player... I mean even a 50-60 point guy would be a huge win for us.

I guess we shall see in camp and pre-season, what he's got left. Where does he fit in, if at all?
 

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Pacioretty hasn't been very good the past two years. He's really looked completely cooked. Now the question becomes, is that father time, or is that the injuries, and a lack of training? What if he has fully recovered, and is finally back in shape? His last two seasons, before these injuries he was PPG. I guess that's the gamble... hope he's healthy enough, and will stay healthy, and be that kind of player... I mean even a 50-60 point guy would be a huge win for us.

I guess we shall see in camp and pre-season, what he's got left. Where does he fit in, if at all?
The must have seen him skate before they extended the camp invite?
 

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He was with the Leafs approx a month ago. Met with the doctors and skated for the team and coaches.
Thanks, makes sense. Perhaps I missed that during the summer but was that common knowledge that he was here working out?
 

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Seems like there's a better cone of silence around the Team with Treliving in charge.
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Is that the same as "death by booga booga?"

So is this why Matthews is captain now, because Mitch wanted him to be...?
Yes, I’m guessing it is……….

Marner’s a God, so it’s beneath him to be a mere captain……..
 

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