Confirmed with Link: Leafs sign D Simon Benoit (1 year, $775k)

[notbias]

Well, no shit. He's in a defensive role and starts 60% in Dzone.

Carlo, for example, is about 50% and comparatively, his numbers are worse.

4th most D zone starts, and he has the worst numbers, Carlo doesn't...

Ironic, for someone named "notbias"

But to fair, I'm not the biggest Treliving guy either, but the utter simplification and lack of context is certainly a choice.

Posting facts hurts people's feelings, it is crazy.

Benoit is 2nd best on the team in GA/60 (best for xGA/60). He is last in offensive zone starts and the team is shooting 6.7% when he's on the ice (dead last among D, next closest is 9.9%), so that's why Leafs aren't scoring many goals when he's on the ice.

He's doing a great job as a #6 D making peanuts.

O zone and D zone starts are so overblown when he starts 75% of the his shifts on the fly...

His underlying stats are bad, and so are his real stats, there are two sides of the ice.

 

[Antropovsky]

Not bad have a mentor like Tanev... good on Benoit for taking advantage of the opportunity.

 

[Seath The Scaleless]

His underlying stats are bad, and so are his real stats, there are two sides of the ice

You're on an island here, expecting the world from a #6 making 1.35M

 

[notbias]

You're on an island here, expecting the world from a #6 making 1.35M

No, I've said he's been a fine #6, too many people are acting like he has been the best D on the team because he hits people... he's been the worst, but it's fine, you expect the #6 to be the worst.

 

[ChurchOfMatthews]

Solid #8 or 9D

Rielly
Brodie
Klingberg
Lilijgren
McCabe
Gio
Timmons

Are the 7D ahead of him for sure

He is 8th at best if no marlie shows promise or we dont get another addition

How far we've come...

 

[yubbers]

Cool, I've posted 0 of those, Benoit is fine as a #6, but people go crazy over a player who hurts his team, not helps his team, when he is on the ice.

pretty sure he played more than all d-men last night in a shutout win

 

[notbias]

pretty sure he played more than all d-men last night in a shutout win

That is very neat.

Over a larger sample size, he has played the least of any D over the entire playoffs.

He also had the worst stats of any D on the team last night.

That is not to say he was bad last night.

 

[yubbers]

That is very neat.

Over a larger sample size, he has played the least of any D over the entire playoffs.

He also had the worst stats of any D on the team last night.

That is not to say he was bad last night.

So he does help the team win. Played the most minutes in a dominant defensive showing

 

[Cap'n Flavour]

What are your thoughts on this tweet?

(dawg is projected output vs. actual)

That means he is playing better than expected, not that he is playing great. His NetRtg is still tied with Carlo at -0.3 at worst on the team for D. The "DDawg" thing just means Dom expected him to be worse. For the most part, I agree with that.

Also you'll note that there are 6 forwards with equivalent or worse ratings.

 

[weems]

(dawg is projected output vs. actual)

That means he is playing better than expected, not that he is playing great. His NetRtg is still tied with Carlo at -0.3 at worst on the team for D. The "DDawg" thing just means Dom expected him to be worse. For the most part, I agree with that.

Also you'll note that there are 6 forwards with equivalent or worse ratings.

His defensive rating looks decent but he's being brought down by a poor offensive rating.

How is that offensive rating calculated? Is On Ice shooting perecentage something that is factored in?

I see the Benoit - OEL pairing only has a On ice shooting percentage of 7.9% while the other pairings are around 12-14%.

I think in the regular season their number was 14%.

 

[Cap'n Flavour]

How is that offensive rating calculated? Is On Ice shooting perecentage something that is factored in?

I'm guessing it's based mostly on scoring chances/expected goals because Laughton/Lorentz/Jarnkrok/McMann are all around the same number whereas their actual 5v5 GF vary quite a lot more (Jarnkrok, for example, has only been on for one GF in nearly 120 5v5 minutes, which is abysmal).

Usage goes both ways. Benoit gets more d-zone than o-zone starts, sure, because he doesn't create offense, but he's also mostly playing with lines 3&4 who aren't scoring. Jarnkrok & Laughton have had chances but not finished. I think the stats are mostly fair in that they're spending a lot of time hemmed in their own zone, and not finishing because... they're not very good. Case in point, Benoit snuck off the point and got a shot in close... last game or the game before? but put it well wide. So when people say it's encouraging that he's skating with the puck more, yeah, it can be if it leads to a goal (and not a break against), but if you're not converting, well...

Consider OEL-Benoit have played 143 mins 5v5, 3GF 5GA for 37.5% GF%, 40.6% xGF. OEL has also played 66 5v5 minutes with other partners, mostly Rielly, and has 5GF 1GA in that time (3.64xGF, 2.93xGA). But of course OEL-Rielly are likely to be playing with one of the top 2 lines while pressing for a goal, not taking garbage time minutes with checking lines.

 

[DarkKnight]

They don’t want to see the leafs have any success. Tears down every Treliving player. It’s such an odd stand they have.

And can’t see how boringly obvious they are. Embarrassing.

Benoit lead the Leaf D in minutes last game.

 

[GoonieFace]

I don't follow specific stats guys and take their opinion as gospel, it is weird that you do.



Goal % is not advanced stats... it is saying when he is on the ice, they lose more than they win, it is very simple.

Is he on the ice by himself or with 4 other players?

 

[IPS]

Benoit is fine as a #6

He played the most minutes in an elimination game where the Leafs had a shutout.


You really think you're fooling anyone with your nonsense?

 

[DarkKnight]

He played the most minutes in an elimination game where the Leafs had a shutout.


You really think you're fooling anyone with your nonsense?

Tanev is one dimensional. Carlo is another Holl. OEL is too old. Benoit is a bum. See a trend? It's so pathetic.

 

[notbias]

He played the most minutes in an elimination game where the Leafs had a shutout.


You really think you're fooling anyone with your nonsense?

One game sample sizes are generally the best, thank you.

Matthews is a playoff beast and he and Marner are clutch.

Tanev is one dimensional. Carlo is another Holl. OEL is too old. Benoit is a bum. See a trend? It's so pathetic.

Yes, the trend is you make things up.

You've also set me to ignore and then respond to all my posts through someone else, the obsession you have for me is so weird, such a cowardly thing to do, either ignore me or don't.

 

[notbias]

Is he on the ice by himself or with 4 other players?

There is an example of his most common partner.

 

[IPS]

One game sample sizes are generally the best, thank you.

Matthews is a playoff beast and he and Marner are clutch.

It ain't only 1 game. He's been a beast all playoffs. If you can't see it you just don't know what you're watching.

 

[notbias]

It ain't only 1 game. He's been a beast all playoffs. If you can't see it you just don't know what you're watching.

He's had moments for sure.

He's been a fine #6, and nothing agrees with your statement that he has been a beast, he's just fun to watch and has a fan-friendly style, so he gets more love than someone who was as ineffective as him who played a passive style.

It's the same reason guys like Hyman/Kadri are loved here even though they were some of the worst playoff performers this team has ever seen relative to expectations.