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nuck said:
Kampf is not a 3rd line player any more than Gauthier was. He doesn't have the minimum offense necessary to justify third line minutes.(right after Kampf scores his 2nd of the pre season). He has better foot speed than the Goat but is not as good offensively, hits less and is not as good on the dot (especially on the pk).

His getting 3rd line minutes with the Hawks coincides with their drop from a 50 win team to a perennial doormat (no he didn't cause the crash but for anyone pointing to his 3rd line minutes there as some kind of a thing). Unless he has some crazy QC numbers I am not sure why they picked him up at all as he seems to be a 6 goal guy with no physical game and they are paying him double what they gave to Gauthier who apparently isn't good enough for the NHL.

Honestly not a hater here guys, but could someone just show me what he brings?
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CHI forwards last year min.400min:

Dzs% - Ozs%

1. Kampf +7.9
2. Hagel +3.1
3. Kubalik -0.9
4. Janmark -1.3
5. Strome -3.2
6. Kurashev -3.8
7. Debrincat -3.8
8. Suter -5.9
9. Kane -7.5


Cfrel

1. Suter +3.9
2. Kampf +3.7
3. Kurashev +1.1
4. Hagel +0.2
5. Strome +0.1
6. Kubalik +0.1
7. Debrincat -0.3
8. Kane -2.7
9. Janmark -8.5

And Kampf was getting very tough matchup usage, too.
 
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zeke said:
We get it - you aren't watching them (and have never watched the likes of Kampf and Kase before) but you really want them to be bad so they must be bad.

Thanks for the input.
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Yes I forgot about Kase, last time he scored 20 goals was 5 years ago?

Yes I forgot about him. He all of sudden going to have a full season with the Leafs and score 20+ goals something hasn't done in 4 years for whatever reason

I forget when people come to Leafs all their health issues goes away and scoring touches comes back

Lets say even he scores 20 goals and stays healthy. So he essentially replaces Hyman
Even with Hyman last year we couldnt' beat Habs

So our depth is better than last year?
 
fahad203 said:
Yes I forgot about Kase, last time he scored 20 goals was 5 years ago?

Yes I forgot about him. He all of sudden going to have a full season with the Leafs and score 20+ goals something hasn't done in 4 years for whatever reason

I forget when people come to Leafs all their health issues goes away and scoring touches comes back

Lets say even he scores 20 goals and stays healthy. So he essentially replaces Hyman
Even with Hyman last year we couldnt' beat Habs

So our depth is better than last year?
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1. Our depth was good last year by any measure.

2. Yeah our depth might be even better this year. We shall see. Lots of good signs so far.
 
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fahad203 said:
Because why exactly? because we got Kampf who had 1 goal last year?
PTO in Gusev ?
Semeyenov who had less points than Barabanov?

Who here really stacks up against our depth from last year?
At least Gally, Joe, Simmonds, Vesey last year were NHLers who scored in this league

this year we got Ho Sang who never had a full season in NHL
Gusev who looks to be too small to do anything, another Petan

Kampf who had 1 goal

We lost Hyman, replaced him with Buntin? who in life has scored 10 goals in NHL?
Hyman at least scored 20+ goals multiple times
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Yep you're getting there....slowly.
 
Man oh man, I have no idea what you Dubasites see in Liljegren, he’s so bad and he’s so soft, getting tossed around like an absolute feather out there. Been saying trade this guy for years and years and got ripped for it. Could have got something good as part of a package but now he’s got no value. He’ll never amount to anything with the Leafs.
 
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