Value of: Leafs Prospect Swaps

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

I suspect Nylander is going to be shopped someday to fill this need.

That's either our future top line wing or #2 centre why would we do that?

 

[WhatTheDuck]

Who do you want for Montour tho?

Nothing outside your big three forward prospects would work, obviously they aren't moving.

 

[TML1967]

Could you rename this thread three dimes for a dollar? Thanks

As I said I have no problem paying a higher total cost for one prospect who is more desirable.

To your analogy, three nickles for one dime!

 

[voxel]

Clarkson + Werenski for 5 of our bust prospects

Clarkson isn't enough deadweight for Werenski. Think Dustin Brown.

 

[voxel]

As I said I have no problem paying a higher total cost for one prospect who is more desirable.

To your analogy, three nickles for one dime!

That dime prospect can't be that much more desirable

 

[GTA]

That's either our future top line wing or #2 centre why would we do that?

Talking in absolutes when you write about prospects always works out well

 

[Brock Radunske]

Derrick Pouliot for Lindberg and a second?

I'm really bittersweet on Pouliot but I'd likely do it.
Lindberg is an interesting prospect though.

 

[Mr Hockey*]

dunno why lindberg is on this list, kid has a lot of potential. 6'3" scores and is an elite skater.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

dunno why lindberg is on this list, kid has a lot of potential. 6'3" scores and is an elite skater.

Because he's our 10th-15th best prospect

 

[Randy Randerson]

Derrick Pouliot for Lindberg and a second?

I'd do this in a heartbeat as a leaf fan, can't imagine the Pens do that

 

[Halla]

I'd be interested in Leivo for Mayfield. Something around there.

leafs probably dont. mayfield will be on waivers soon enough and if we made the move, we would have to waive him or corrado

 

[Halla]

Clarkson isn't enough deadweight for Werenski. Think Dustin Brown.

Bolland with 3 years @ 5.5 just cost an 11th overall pick.
Clarkson has 4 years left @5.25.

columbus doesnt move him without a dubois, werenski or maybe milano (if they are lucky) attached

 

[Brock Radunske]

Bolland with 3 years @ 5.5 just cost an 11th overall pick.
Clarkson has 4 years left @5.25.

columbus doesnt move him without a dubois, werenski or maybe milano (if they are lucky) attached

That's extreme.
Both of those players are significantly better prospects than Crouse.
Crouse will be a fine player but he was a reach at 11 IMHO.

I could see Milano getting stapled to Clarkson in a trade but there is no way the other two will.
In reality, the Panthers did the move to free up space because their window just opened and they're going for it. The Jackets aren't anywhere near that level.

That would be like the Leafs adding Kapanen to Lupul just to move his last two years, when we can afford to keep him on the roster.

Wrong team, wrong time, wrong prospects.

 

[Randy Randerson]

That's extreme.
Both of those players are significantly better prospects than Crouse.
Crouse will be a fine player but he was a reach at 11 IMHO.

I could see Milano getting stapled to Clarkson in a trade but there is no way the other two will.
In reality, the Panthers did the move to free up space because their window just opened and they're going for it. The Jackets aren't anywhere near that level.

That would be like the Leafs adding Kapanen to Lupul just to move his last two years, when we can afford to keep him on the roster.

Wrong team, wrong time, wrong prospects.

Agree that Dubois and Werenski are better prospects than Crouse, but Crouse was widely considered to be a top 10 pick on draft day, some even had him getting into the top 5 and pushing out Marner

I agree with your point though, CLB could get rid of Clarkson with something less than Dubois/Werenski. Not sure if Milano gets it done, but picks probably would

 

[WhatTheDuck]

Bolland with 3 years @ 5.5 just cost an 11th overall pick.
Clarkson has 4 years left @5.25.

columbus doesnt move him without a dubois, werenski or maybe milano (if they are lucky) attached

No, it cost them Crouse who happened to be an 11th pick over a year ago. Bringing up names like Dubois and Werenski is taking it too far, those are foundational pieces as opposed to just good prospects - no GM in their right mind would give them up to dump money.

 

[StuckOutHere]

That's either our future top line wing or #2 centre why would we do that?

I'd trade Nylander for a top pair RHD prospect without hesitation. Short of that, happy to have him on board for the long haul.

 

[DANTHEMAN1967]

Nothing outside your big three forward prospects would work, obviously they aren't moving.

That's okay the Leafs will trade with Las Vegas next Summer after the Ducks lose him for nothing.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

That's okay the Leafs will trade with Las Vegas next Summer after the Ducks lose him for nothing.

He's expansion exempt there genius.

 

[Maukkis]

That's extreme.
Both of those players are significantly better prospects than Crouse.
Crouse will be a fine player but he was a reach at 11 IMHO.

I could see Milano getting stapled to Clarkson in a trade but there is no way the other two will.
In reality, the Panthers did the move to free up space because their window just opened and they're going for it. The Jackets aren't anywhere near that level.

That would be like the Leafs adding Kapanen to Lupul just to move his last two years, when we can afford to keep him on the roster.

Wrong team, wrong time, wrong prospects.

Crouse definitely wasn't a reach. Where he went was about right, given what we knew at the time. The only player who I thought would have gone before Crouse and didn't was Barzal. In hindsight, one could say that other players should have been taken, but what can you do.

 

[Brock Radunske]

I'd trade Nylander for a top pair RHD prospect without hesitation. Short of that, happy to have him on board for the long haul.

Purely out of curiosity, can you name 3 RHD prospects you'd trade Nylander for?

 

[Brock Radunske]

Crouse definitely wasn't a reach. Where he went was about right, given what we knew at the time. The only player who I thought would have gone before Crouse and didn't was Barzal. In hindsight, one could say that other players should have been taken, but what can you do.

I think I was really low on him because I had this irrational fear that because he was huge, the Leafs would have taken him at 4. I had the same gut-wrenching feeling with Richie.

 

[StuckOutHere]

Purely out of curiosity, can you name 3 RHD prospects you'd trade Nylander for?

Colton Parayko
Julius Honka
Ryan Pulock

Not all one for one, but these are players I'd engage in meaningful discussion on. That list is in order of interest fwiw.

 

[TML1967]

No, it cost them Crouse who happened to be an 11th pick over a year ago. Bringing up names like Dubois and Werenski is taking it too far, those are foundational pieces as opposed to just good prospects - no GM in their right mind would give them up to dump money.

To be fair, it wasnt just Crouse and Bolland in that trade.

The value was Conditional 2nd round pick + 3rd round pick for Crouse and Bolland.

So Crouse is seen as being worth a 2nd+ a 3rd + the negative cost of Bolland. Thats still some pretty darn good value.

Also, an extra year on Clarksons contract, and roughly equal money.
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So id say the value may be off, but not by a ton.

Maybe its a conditional 1st + 3rd for Debois/Werenski and Clarkson not retained.

 

[Menzinger]

I'd trade Nylander for a top pair RHD prospect without hesitation. Short of that, happy to have him on board for the long haul.

I'd flip Marner long before Nylander.

A smart team would trade neither though.

 

[Brock Radunske]

Colton Parayko
Julius Honka
Ryan Pulock

Not all one for one, but these are players I'd engage in meaningful discussion on. That list is in order of interest fwiw.

I'll give you Colton Parayko but the other two aren't near enough to make me consider trading Nylander.
In fact, in Pulock's case, the plus added to him would have to be as or more valuable than himself.