Post-Game Talk: Leafs make a trash goalie look great, this is a recording. | 3-2 Florida in OT

[justashadowof]

2021-22 Avs went 1-5-1 in their last 7 regular season games before winning their Cup.
2020-21 Lightning lost their last 3 regular season games before winning the Cup.
2019-20 Lightning went 3-6-1 in their last 10 games before winning the Cup.

The regular season is just a 6 month long revenue stream for the league. Once you've qualified for the playoffs and your opponent has been set, what's the point in sweating the results of any of these hockey games?

 

[egd27]

What's Willy supposed to do? He's out there with the two worst possible options - a giveaway artist and a guy who can't play defence.

Two big rules for the team: don't pass to JT in your own end and don't let him on the ice in OT.

Realize that trying to dangle 2 defenders when in tight has a low probability of success and maintain possession of the puck. Pretty simple really.

 

[thusk]

And the marner giveaway in last minute to allow tying goal.

Anybody gonna talk about the brutal McCabe give away? Seriously what was he thinking. Thought Liljegren played a solid game but the puck is still bouncing a little to much on his stick.

Sure whwn youre playi g a lot, you will make mistake...

Im fine with that game and if you removing and for me last 8 outside of Ottawa game, toronto played pretty good hockey. Islander game was not as trash than score telling, it was just a game Samsonov focus was not there at all ( baby to be born).

Right now leafs playing great hockey and i liked how they playing but we will need to see nylander finding his game before playoff start.

 

[Niagara Bill]

How long had Marner been on the ice when the tying goal was scored? Giordano took the penalty at 17:40- he was on the ice and had been on for what was close to a full shift. Marner stayed on to start the penalty kill and was still on when goal scored 1 min 20 secs later. He must have been on for more than 2 mins Why????

Leafs cleared it once a slow roller that just missed the empty net. Plenty of time to change. No one changed on that clear.

Penalty kill 101, fresh legs any time you can change them

1 goal lead, and your over used SS has to kill penalty in last 2 minutes in what many on this site said was a meaningless game. 6 bottom 6 forwards cannot play defensive game good enough to kill a penalty. Keefe cannot coach a chip and chase game, he cannot use a 3rd or 4th line when your team needs it.
Hyphen man scores, misses a penalty shot and his coach calls him effective when any good coach wants him to be rough, tough and excellent defensively first. We don't need him to score, that is not his role. Forcing Marner into 2 min of penalty kill in this game and Hyphen boy or others in the bottom 6 sitting and watching is ridiculous.
Oh, and then having Kampf a 7 goal, 25 point guy starting overtime....such coaching brilliance.

 

[Suntouchable13]

Whatever happened during 3-on-3 you can just throw away in the trash, it’s not a thing in the playoffs. Very hard fought and well played 2-2 tie game. Good for Florida for getting that extra point they need, tho.

 

[Suntouchable13]

1 goal lead, and your over used SS has to kill penalty in last 2 minutes in what many on this site said was a meaningless game. 6 bottom 6 forwards cannot play defensive game good enough to kill a penalty. Keefe cannot coach a chip and chase game, he cannot use a 3rd or 4th line when your team needs it.
Hyphen man scores, misses a penalty shot and his coach calls him effective when any good coach wants him to be rough, tough and excellent defensively first. We don't need him to score, that is not his role. Forcing Marner into 2 min of penalty kill in this game and Hyphen boy or others in the bottom 6 sitting and watching is ridiculous.
Oh, and then having Kampf a 7 goal, 25 point guy starting overtime....such coaching brilliance.

I do agree with your concerns. Some of those are very troubling, for sure. Keefe is definitely making some baffling decisions.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

1 goal lead, and your over used SS has to kill penalty in last 2 minutes in what many on this site said was a meaningless game. 6 bottom 6 forwards cannot play defensive game good enough to kill a penalty. Keefe cannot coach a chip and chase game, he cannot use a 3rd or 4th line when your team needs it.
Hyphen man scores, misses a penalty shot and his coach calls him effective when any good coach wants him to be rough, tough and excellent defensively first. We don't need him to score, that is not his role. Forcing Marner into 2 min of penalty kill in this game and Hyphen boy or others in the bottom 6 sitting and watching is ridiculous.
Oh, and then having Kampf a 7 goal, 25 point guy starting overtime....such coaching brilliance.

Kampf has been starting OT for awhile, you only noticed now?

 

[ITM]

OP's title is off.

Overtime: Matthews with a great play (and we're not going to characterize him as making "trash goalies looking great" right?) shoots the puck and Lyon snags it making an equally great play.

The other way, a two on one...in the sham known as regular season overtime.

This isn't the game to example the club as being deficient.

Agree with his comment about the black jerseys; Adding: Why can't we just roll with our traditional garb a la Detroit and Montreal? Does it really add enough significance to the bottom line to justify the practice?

OT: Out of all the Original Six clubs, our PR people (year over year) seem to miss the memo.

 

[Niagara Bill]

Kampf has been starting OT for awhile, you only noticed now?

No, but what is our record in ot? We play offensive hockey for 3 periods, don't coach our 3 and 4 lines to play shutdown, then over time and we play D.
Might as well play Holl.
The logic is mindboggling.

 

[CDN24]

1 goal lead, and your over used SS has to kill penalty in last 2 minutes in what many on this site said was a meaningless game. 6 bottom 6 forwards cannot play defensive game good enough to kill a penalty. Keefe cannot coach a chip and chase game, he cannot use a 3rd or 4th line when your team needs it.
Hyphen man scores, misses a penalty shot and his coach calls him effective when any good coach wants him to be rough, tough and excellent defensively first. We don't need him to score, that is not his role. Forcing Marner into 2 min of penalty kill in this game and Hyphen boy or others in the bottom 6 sitting and watching is ridiculous.
Oh, and then having Kampf a 7 goal, 25 point guy starting overtime....such coaching brilliance.

The personnel decisions at this stage of the season are baffling.

You are locked into a playoff series and close to locked into home ice in that series and you are going 11-7 but really you are playing 3 lines. Hyphen boy had 8 mins and Simmonds had 6. This is the time to be resting your big guns not overtaxing them with hard minutes.
Kerfoot Bunting and Lafferty all played under 14 mins. Combined his bottom 5 F played about 56 mins. That leaves a lot of mins for the other 6.

 

[CDN24]

OP's title is off.

Overtime: Matthews with a great play (and we're not going to characterize him as making "trash goalies looking great" right?) shoots the puck and Lyon snags it making an equally great play.

The other way, a two on one...in the sham known as regular season overtime.

This isn't the game to example the club as being deficient.

Agree with his comment about the black jerseys; Adding: Why can't we just roll with our traditional garb a la Detroit and Montreal? Does it really add enough significance to the bottom line to justify the practice?

OT: Out of all the Original Six clubs, our PR people (year over year) seem to miss the memo.

Habs had one too, this years was baby blue like the old expos colors. They went 1-6-1 in them Coach MSL is not a fan

 

[ACC1224]

OP's title is off.

Overtime: Matthews with a great play (and we're not going to characterize him as making "trash goalies looking great" right?) shoots the puck and Lyon snags it making an equally great play.

The other way, a two on one...in the sham known as regular season overtime.

This isn't the game to example the club as being deficient.

Agree with his comment about the black jerseys; Adding: Why can't we just roll with our traditional garb a la Detroit and Montreal? Does it really add enough significance to the bottom line to justify the practice?

OT: Out of all the Original Six clubs, our PR people (year over year) seem to miss the memo.

Those Teams do it too, think it's league mandated.

Habs had one too, this years was baby blue like the old expos colors. They went 1-6-1 in them Coach MSL is not a fan

Habs suck no matter what they wear.

 

[notDatsyuk]

Realize that trying to dangle 2 defenders when in tight has a low probability of success and maintain possession of the puck. Pretty simple really.

The smart thing for him would have been to go to the bench as soon as he saw JT step on the ice.

 

[robertmac43]

Looked sloppy. Hopefully we get it out of our systems now

 

[notDatsyuk]

No, but what is our record in ot? We play offensive hockey for 3 periods, don't coach our 3 and 4 lines to play shutdown, then over time and we play D.
Might as well play Holl.
The logic is mindboggling.

Our record in OT was terrible when we were starting JT. Since we began using Kampf to start our record has been much better.

Kampf is our second-best faceoff man and much less of a defensive liability.

The logic of using JT at any time in OT is mindboggling.

 

[ACC1224]

Biggest take away for me from last night is Florida is terrible and if they do sneak in Boston will steam roll them.

 

[DragoGrizzly]

I’m actually surprised at the sheer amount of negativity after this game. We’ve been locked in a playoff spot for a while, are 6 points up on Tampa and still showed better intensity and dominated a team desperately fighting for their playoff lives. Outside of the 1st and last minute (and who gives a flying f about 3 on 3) this game was all Leafs. We also got a point and decreased the Habs chances at getting another lottery pick. Yes I hate losing any game too, but this is not the game to rage about.

 

[Mess]

2021-22 Avs went 1-5-1 in their last 7 regular season games before winning their Cup.
2020-21 Lightning lost their last 3 regular season games before winning the Cup.
2019-20 Lightning went 3-6-1 in their last 10 games before winning the Cup.

The regular season is just a 6 month long revenue stream for the league. Once you've qualified for the playoffs and your opponent has been set, what's the point in sweating the results of any of these hockey games?

The NHL plays 82 games each during the regular season to determine the 1/2 the teams 16 that qualify for the playoffs and the other 16 the don't.

The regular season separates the haves from the have-nots.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

No, but what is our record in ot? We play offensive hockey for 3 periods, don't coach our 3 and 4 lines to play shutdown, then over time and we play D.
Might as well play Holl.
The logic is mindboggling.

The record in OT is 6-8 after last night.

However prior to Kampf starting OT it was 1-6 or 1-7, something liked that so It's actually worked for the most part.

Granted It's odd that It's worked but for the most part It's worked

 

[Notsince67]

The most predictive indicator of the leafs losing is when they wear those reverse retro jerseys. I won't be sad to see them go.

 

[AllHeartNoSkill]

How the hell is it STILL the regular season?!

 

[Niagara Bill]

Our record in OT was terrible when we were starting JT. Since we began using Kampf to start our record has been much better.

Kampf is our second-best faceoff man and much less of a defensive liability.

The logic of using JT at any time in OT is mindboggling.

I do not disagree with JT issue.

 

[thusk]

1 goal lead, and your over used SS has to kill penalty in last 2 minutes in what many on this site said was a meaningless game. 6 bottom 6 forwards cannot play defensive game good enough to kill a penalty. Keefe cannot coach a chip and chase game, he cannot use a 3rd or 4th line when your team needs it.
Hyphen man scores, misses a penalty shot and his coach calls him effective when any good coach wants him to be rough, tough and excellent defensively first. We don't need him to score, that is not his role. Forcing Marner into 2 min of penalty kill in this game and Hyphen boy or others in the bottom 6 sitting and watching is ridiculous.
Oh, and then having Kampf a 7 goal, 25 point guy starting overtime....such coaching brilliance.

What do you think Boston would do in the same situation... exactly the same thing keeping Bergeron and Marchand as mucjmh they can to close this game. I just understand whats is son
surprinsing than trying to use your best defensive player as much you can to protect your lead?!?!?! Leafs did it all season

Defend at 6v5, you didn't waste as much energy so thats why he stay on the ice on the penalty kill.

 

[VanW27]

Honestly I thought they played pretty well last night for the most part. They have a well earned reputation of letting bad teams and bad goalies shut them down but I didn't see the typical things that the Leafs do that let that happen - more just a game where the goalie played well and had some luck on his side.

Couple of my notes on the night:
- Lilly continues to struggle with the 'yips'. 3 times in that 30 second shift in the last minute he just whiffed on passes. It's a strange thing, I'm not sure what to call besides 'the yips'. Disappointing to see after playing so well for the majority of the season.

- Poor play by Willy on the OT goal, but lots of blame to go around. Risky play, then JT compounds the issue by chasing the puck and handung them an easy 2 on 1. And of course why is JT out there at all? Plus the big guys as a whole are way too individualistic in OT and have been for a while.

 

[AvroArrow]

I thought we played great for 50 minutes. The first 5 minutes and last 5 minutes of the game were just atrocious and ultimately cost us the game. Lots of positives, but also we gotta be able to start on time and close games out. Overall not too upset with it, I thought we looked good but just gotta play a complete 60.

Also has Rielly ever successfully defended a 2 on 1? I swear to god all he does is flap around like a fish out of water in no mans land. He never takes away the pass, you gotta help your goaltender out there. Let him take on Barkov with the shot, but when you take neither pass or shot, it's pretty much a guaranteed goal against.