Post-Game Talk: Leafs Lose to Sens

[Commander Clueless]

We're universally accepted as "soft", but high in suspension stats.

Our fans are crazier than all others combined, but our arena is too quiet and our players don't care.

We're favoured by the refs, but are amongst the lowest in powerplay opportunities

Our team is all offense, no defense...but can't score in the playoffs.



This team is impossibly frustrating.

 

[ToneDog]

NYR are playing pretty average since Jan 1, 8-7-2 with a -3 goal differential, 14.9% PP, 79.5% PK. For comparison sake Leafs are 9-6-1 with a +8 goal differential, 28.6% PP 79.5% PK. Rangers would not be a gimmie but if I had to choose the Metro bracket or the Atlantic bracket, the choice is pretty clear IMO. If the Leafs show up they are better skilled but the Leafs have been world beaters one game and no shows the next, who knows what you are going to get with these guys.

Sorry I do not see it with this D and G. They can beat the Rangers in the regular season but in a 7 games series, the Rangers will wear down that D. Unless the 3 amigos see the light, I do not expect them to impose their will on the Rangers. More likely the Rangers take away their will to win IMO.

P.S. If Shesterkin shows up, we got no chance.

 

[Aashir]

Sorry I do not see it with this D and G. They can beat the Rangers in the regular season but in a 7 games series, the Rangers will wear down that D. Unless the 3 amigos see the light, I do not expect them to impose their will on the Rangers. More likely the Rangers take away their will to win IMO.

P.S. If Shesterkin shows up, we got no chance.

Lol if quick shows up we have no chance either

This team as it stands cannot beat any of the other 31 teams in a best of 7, maybe tampa. The core haven’t shown an ability to get it done at all and we just overpay them for the continued ass performances

 

[myleafs]

Most definitely. The kid needed some common sense in that situation. There is no reason to wind up five feet from an empty net, especially when your team is as far out of things as Ottawa is.

Fully agree...he def was poking the bear and I would have loved for reilly to go up to him face to face and start something rather than a crosscheck to the face. Him being suspended (if he does) is not good for us. Again, like that Reilly responded but not how he did it.

 

[myleafs]

Can you not see how this was very important for the team? The last thing we saw last season was Gudas screaming in our goalies face. We cannot let that stuff slide and be a unified team at the same time. Hopefully the core takes note because Keefe certainly did. Something we haven’t had the entire time with this core is unification. If Rielly can’t get it no one can. We will see how the boys respond but I’m very glad something with this team has changed.

I can count endless times the leafs dont stick up for themselves or each other but crosschecking someone in the face for an empty net slapper is the line you just dont cross? ok then....Would have preferred a response when Knies got slammed to the ice last year but thats just me.

 

[Hellcat]

Sorry I do not see it with this D and G. They can beat the Rangers in the regular season but in a 7 games series, the Rangers will wear down that D. Unless the 3 amigos see the light, I do not expect them to impose their will on the Rangers. More likely the Rangers take away their will to win IMO.

P.S. If Shesterkin shows up, we got no chance.

Oh dont take my post as vote of confidence in the Leafs, it's more I'd prefer the Metro over the Atlantic, in the end I dont even know if we will make the playoffs.

 

[myleafs]

It is hilarious seeing all the couch warriors crying about how Greig did nothing wrong when even Norris admitted they would be just as mad if another team did that to them lmao

I dont see anyone saying what Greig did was ok...it wasnt and it was asking for a response. Some including myself dont like that Reilly (our best dman) has probably got himself suspended. If he doesnt crosscheck him in the face but still goes at him its all good which is what I wanted to see.

Good on Reilly. That's captain material. He wears the leaf logo like it matters!!!!!

Im not thrilled with the way he responded but I agree, Reilly should have been the captain all along, it was and has been pretty obvious that he truly bleeds blue and white.

 

[myleafs]

It's hilarious that some fans here are calling what Rielly did gutless because if there was no response the very same people would be questioning the teams heart and calling them gutless regardless. I'm damn glad Morgan did something and if you think he was wrong give your head a shake.

You are purposely leaving out that those who would have preferred he didnt react the way he did did not want zero reaction. we all wanted a reaction, but one that didnt suspend our best dman.

 

[Arzak]

Clearly the Sens take these games more seriously than the Leafs. Many joke it is their SC but they are not far from wrong.

Pittsburg and Philadelphia take their meetings seriously
Devils and Rangers never take a night off when they play each other
Panthers and Tampa? You can bet it's not another game

It's not exactly weird that the Sens are playing their Ontario battle seriously.

I don't think that we should be laughing or mentioning it's their SC. We should be worried it's another symptom of our locker room. Anything else is a deflection.

State/province rivals are a thing.

 

[ToneDog]

I can count endless times the leafs dont stick up for themselves or each other but crosschecking someone in the face for an empty net slapper is the line you just dont cross? ok then....Would have preferred a response when Knies got slammed to the ice last year but thats just me.

Prefer that Rielly saved that cross check for use after a Marchand or Bennett cheap shot. I thought it was overkill for an empty net slapshot with 5 seconds to go.

 

[myleafs]

Yeah, glad we don’t do that… anyway when I was a kid I had a coach who was a wise man. He said don’t be saying that team sucks, anybody can beat a team that sucks…

I find it strange when posters bring up the bad things the team that just beat our team did and that somehow makes the bad things our team not as bad. We lost right?

Prefer that Rielly saved that cross check for use after a Marchand or Bennett cheap shot. I thought it was overkill for an empty net slapshot with 5 seconds to go.

Agreed

 

[RunItBackAgain]

I can count endless times the leafs dont stick up for themselves or each other but crosschecking someone in the face for an empty net slapper is the line you just dont cross? ok then....Would have preferred a response when Knies got slammed to the ice last year but thats just me.

Can’t change the past can only move forward. I can count endless times this season where the leafs have stood up for themselves and each other. One of the only reasons I have any faith left this season.

 

[Gabriel426]

You couldn’t tell on tv but it was more than likely the players didn’t realize what happened until after the fact. Once the Sen was on the breakaway on an open net, they’d assume game over not that he pull that classless garbage. I’m sure if they saw it like on tv they would have gotten back a little quicker.

Reaves was out at the end in case the Sens retaliated. They should have but I guess he scared them off. Leafs has already made their point, nothing else was needed.

I completely understand the guys thought the game was over when Grieg got the breakaway, which is fine.

But, Domi was the first one there and I am 100% sure he would had started something if Reilly didn’t bc he saw what happened. Our 11mil boys club didn’t jump in like Domi, in fact they were a few seconds afterwards.
That’s my point, at least from this incident, they were okay for someone to blast a shot into the empty net. They didn’t take it personally and thought it was okay.
I hope their mentality will change after watching the replay and the reaction from Mo. Bc if they still act like this, there is no hope for any playoffs success.

 

[myleafs]

Can’t change the past can only move forward. I can count endless times this season where the leafs have stood up for themselves and each other. One of the only reasons I have any faith left this season.

really? we are watching different teams then

 

[RunItBackAgain]

really? we are watching different teams then

Compared to years past, yes it’s been much different. We barely used to scrum after whistles. Name me a time we didn’t respond this season besides the Marchand incident.

 

[ULF_55]

Leafs are 11th. in the league Point Percentage.

They are at the bottom of the top third of the league.

Heck, even the top teams lose games so for the Leafs to lose to the 28th. best team that wants to win isn't remarkable. They are all for the most part NHL players.

I watched the first period and then turned it off. I didn't like the feel of the game, didn't have much faith they were there to win. But the called off 2-0 goal was perhaps not a turning point, but perhaps a pivot point.

Watched the recap of the game and noticed several blunders on the goals against by the defense. On the one goal the defender got the puck out of the zone but the Matthews line was on the other side of center, and three Sens were between the defense and the forwards. Puck picked off and an easy goal results.
Another goal, the Tavares line was trapped in their own zone and McCabe and Tavares around the puck, the Sens player gets it, passes to the point, across to the other point, in deep and the puck was to the left of the goalie being controlled by the Sens pass back to the point and goal.

 

[arso40]

I’m glad we got Cowan but Damn I miss sandin

 

[Metroid]

Prefer that Rielly saved that cross check for use after a Marchand or Bennett cheap shot. I thought it was overkill for an empty net slapshot with 5 seconds to go.

He's just warming up!

 

[Beneven Stanciano]

Of course it's going that way. If that's how Rielly wants to act seconds after the goal, then don't look like this seconds before the goal. Spoiled rich kids who don't get their way. OK, Toronto pays for most of the league.

 

[57 Years No Cup]

Ok who made a country song about me without my permission?

 

[Gabriel426]

Compared to years past, yes it’s been much different. We barely used to scrum after whistles. Name me a time we didn’t respond this season besides the Marchand incident.

If scrumming after whistles is an improvement, that’s pretty pathetic.

After the TDL last season, watching the team live, you can see that McCabe, Schenn, Lafferty, Acciari and even Holl were shoving and pushing players behind the plays and after each shift when they are changing. I thought wow, finally they are doing what others are doing. But this year they have not.

Fundamentally this team is really soft and the 11mil boys are probably want to win but they are not willing to do what it takes to win. You look at McD and Drai, Mack, Kuch, and Makar, they get it and they had shown it. Our boys just don’t.
Talent wise, AM is right up there with those 5 while MM and Willie are not far behind but in terms of that Champions mentality or Clutch DNA, our guys are far behind.

 

[JamieG19]

I'd like to switch out our coach.

With Ottawa? Jacques Martin? All of his great history of playoff success is the missing piece that the Leafs need. But hey there were a lot of happy times in Toronto when Jacques Martin was around at playoff time so I guess I can't blame you for wanting him around.

 

[RunItBackAgain]

If scrumming after whistles is an improvement, that’s pretty pathetic.

After the TDL last season, watching the team live, you can see that McCabe, Schenn, Lafferty, Acciari and even Holl were shoving and pushing players behind the plays and after each shift when they are changing. I thought wow, finally they are doing what others are doing. But this year they have not.

Fundamentally this team is really soft and the 11mil boys are probably want to win but they are not willing to do what it takes to win. You look at McD and Drai, Mack, Kuch, and Makar, they get it and they had shown it. Our boys just don’t.
Talent wise, AM is right up there with those 5 while MM and Willie are not far behind but in terms of that Champions mentality or Clutch DNA, our guys are far behind.

I never said we were tough because I think we’re still Charmin soft. But I have seen a much better response in most situations.

But you are right, if the core doesn’t nut up we are going nowhere fast. It needs to be a full team buy in and that hasn’t happened yet. If it doesn’t after this with Rielly and Keefe and basically every ex player and analyst siding with them then I give up. I should’ve a long time ago

 

[Nineteen67]

It’s hilarious, half the posts are about Sens being cheap shot artists and divers, and than they see no issue with a complete cheap shot.

I have zero problems with cheap shots that are not trying to maim someone. In fact I like them and would love to see more emotion in the league.

 

[JamieG19]

My only concern with Woll is his health.

And that's a very valid concern. But injuries are part of the game and it does have an influence on who succeeds. A lot of unexpected things can happen too. Maybe he comes back and leads the Leafs to the Cup. But maybe he doesn't. Maybe Samsonov gets hot and becomes a playoff hero. Maybe Jones is just good enough for the Leafs to advance with decent goaltending. If you look at the last 15 or 20 years, a lot of non Hall of Fame caliber goaltenders have won the Cup. With the Core 4 leading the way they are very capable of winning with decent goaltending. If Woll comes back from injury and plays like he can it will just make things easier.