Post-Game Talk: Leafs lose in SO

[Notsince67]

Assuming you consider his $15.9M salary his first year here 'about right' , then $7.95M this year is too.

Your lower end (5-6) is about the most I'd consider for a renewal.

Water under the bridge from a value perspective given his NMC. In the context of a resigning, a short term contract not significantly below what he is taking in right now in salary seems sensible.

 

[Dekes For Days]

I did say 'other than PP '.

Even strength goals - tied for 44th among centres
Even strength points - tied for 52nd among centres.

Because putting the puck into an empty net is important, but PP production isn't.

 

[Niagara Bill]

It was the contract length more so than the dollar amount.

So, what is his annual $$$.long term, 5.5 or 6.0.
Where would he fit into our structure today for a full season. Except to lose Reilly to ltir for the year we couldn't cover his $$$. Someone else would go...Nylander?
I still say decision was easy, contract length was not it. Short term $$$ would have to be more.

 

[The Iceman]

I did say 'other than PP '.

Even strength goals - tied for 44th among centres
Even strength points - tied for 52nd among centres.

Why would you put a restriction on how he gets his points...all the other top centres play PP1 too

 

[Sniper99]

Leafs cost me 150 bucks, even Buffalo did their part. I am not happy with the damn goaltending right now. Never bet on your favourite team lol.

try betting against them, they always seem to show up and get the W when i do it. Sadly no one is helping me financially so i havent been able to do it for awhile.

 

[PromisedLand]

Zach Hyman would be real good in Leafs top 6 again. We know the fit is there on either of Leafs top lines.

I re-inserted him among Leafs point scorers to see how he would fit.

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His 11 goals in 16 playoff games last year would really be of interest here for the Leafs this year.,

we have no cap space man

 

[saffronleaf]

Can’t be great every night, burn the tapes and move on.

lotsa tape burning these past few games. may need to review the tape instead.

 

[ACC1224]

So, what is his annual $$$.long term, 5.5 or 6.0.
Where would he fit into our structure today for a full season. Except to lose Reilly to ltir for the year we couldn't cover his $$$. Someone else would go...Nylander?
I still say decision was easy, contract length was not it. Short term $$$ would have to be more.

Yes the team would look different but they wouldn’t need to lose Nylander and Rielly

 

[Niagara Bill]

Yes the team would look different but they wouldn’t need to lose Nylander and Rielly

Nylander OR Reilly! ? Or 2 players like Kerfoot at 3.5m and maybe Brodie...we couldn't afford that.
My point is it was not term...just plain dollars.
Love Hyman, but we going to face same challenge with Willie.

 

[notDatsyuk]

Because putting the puck into an empty net is important, but PP production isn't.

That's certainly not what I said, but if that's your only response....

Why would you put a restriction on how he gets his points...all the other top centres play PP1 too

I didn't. I just said that other than that, he doesn't seem to get much.

 

[Dekes For Days]

That's certainly not what I said

Except it kind of is what you said, when you selectively picked out the one metric that included empty net points but excluded PP points, in order to make Tavares look the worst.
Not 5v5, where among centers, he is 40th in points (just a couple points away from the top-25) and 20th in goals, despite career worst 5v5 puck luck thus far this year.
Not PP, where among centers, he is 7th in points and 10th in goals.
Not overall, where among centers, he is 25th in points and 19th in goals.
And certainly not any of the non-point things he brings to the team.