Breakingbad28
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Kessel was the one making Bozak look like a decent nhler, we are seeing his true colors now.
Post-Game Talk: Leafs Lose (again) 4-0 vs. Pittsburgh.
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Kessel was the one making Bozak look like a decent nhler, we are seeing his true colors now.
Pretty soon Las Vegas is going to have an over under on Babcocks length of tenure here.
I have to say, just having a Kessel made this team watchable, but without him? Pretty unwatchable. Sure he was pretty snarky and stuff, but the guy had talent and was fun to watch, this is just so not fun to follow, bout as much fun as read the obituaries.
I have to say, just having a Kessel made this team watchable, but without him? Pretty unwatchable. Sure he was pretty snarky and stuff, but the guy had talent and was fun to watch, this is just so not fun to follow, bout as much fun as read the obituaries.
Mats13
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What?? Are you even being serious?Aside from that blatant lie, are you actually trying to blame Babcock for this pathetic team? Without him, we're probably losing games 7-1. What do you expect him to do? Get on the ice and score goals?
Mats13
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Some people just have no patience....
These are, ironically, the same people who complain we never build properly.
You can't have it both ways.
You want to be Chicago? Well guess what, they did this too.
Learn to have patience or find another team to cheer for. I can live with sucking if it means we finally get a good team.
Aside from that blatant lie, are you actually trying to blame Babcock for this pathetic team? Without him, we're probably losing games 7-1. What do you expect him to do? Get on the ice and score goals?
Yeah it's funny people are questioning Babcock. We saw some old habits creap in today but if people expected they would be gone on 10 games well than they don't know much about hockey.
It's obvious some Leafs fans can't handle a rebuild.
Sorry but Babcock has been great so far. Not his fault our goalies can't stop a beachball.
And someone loses credibility right away when they say Morgan and Jake have dropped off. They have both played the best hockey of their career under Babcock and have been real solid.
Like the direction of this team and Babcock had been real good.
Lol at not instilling confidence in any players. What a false statement.
This is better than the Horachek era for sure
Not questioning Babcock in the least. I really believe this guy is in this for the long haul, and even if he comes out of this failed, battered and ruined after his 8 year deal is up, he's still gonna be the same Mike- and then go on to some other team and win another Cup. I'm convinced of this guy's personality that he can fight through anything and anybody. I think he's one of the strongest characters this teams has ever had in their management.
Agreed. We knew it would be a long process. In realty if our goalies were decent, we have 3 wins but nope.
Babcock is doing well with what he has
Its tough process but will pay off in long run. We played bad today but I expect the team to respond with a strong effort next game.
Lucky we have him
RonEllisFan
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Get off Babcock, he's the best there is, this team is horrible, not his fault. I still enjoy watching his team, work hard, not skilled, bad passing, can't finish, bad decisions on ice, but they work hard, wish they would have not had to put Babcock through this, but he was free and they grabbed him. This is a bad part of the progression of the rebuild, good young players on not quite ready to come up, and having to ice a team that does not belong there. Positives are young players close to coming up, tons of picks next year, more pick coming in trades for some players not pencilled in for the core.
He's one of those rare guys that can't be shook. The media can try to eat him up but he's like a piece of steel - they can't bite into him. It's great to have a solid guy like this coaching the team. He's here for all 8 years and you gotta believe that during that time upper management will give him the necessary players to build a good team.. and when he has those pieces, he'll fit them together like a jigsaw puzzle and start to win
Why don't we see Lupul play with Holland? It'd be interesting to see how those two would perform for an extended run.
tokyoite
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Need all new faces. Money isn't the problem. The talent is.
Can't we dump veterans like Bernier, Bozak, Lupul or Phaneuf ?
Newcomers so far have been useless. The right word is garbage.
Can't we dump veterans like Bernier, Bozak, Lupul or Phaneuf ?
Newcomers so far have been useless. The right word is garbage.
Patience, all of those guys will be gone in due time. All 4 of them will be shipped out one way or the other. They aren't going to be a part of the plan moving forward. It just takes time to move certain guys. None of them have high trade value or are attractive to other teams... which is why they're here, contributing to the make up of a joke team. It might be hard to get rid of guys who are contributing to a dumpster team, but not impossible. Time is what it takes. But I would guess for sure that they're trying to move all of them out
We have a nucleus of over paid and under achieving players. We have a very small pool of talented kids who may or maynot be ready and you want to dump them in the big show and ruin their development?
Under no circumstances should any prospect with the chance of being a decent to high caliber NHL player be up with the big team.
When Babcock said there would be pain, this is what he was talking about. We need to stay the course, if that means a season or two to forget so be it. Look, if we get Matthews or Chyrchun it makes the rebuild all that much faster. Plus how many off the players on this roster will be traded for picks and prospect, this team will look very different a year fron now.
Patience!!!
Leafs didn't look good. Oh well, it's bound to happen with this lineup, especially in back to back games. Just another drop in the bucket of lost games this year.
There will be good losses and bad losses, the pain is inevitable. Keep your eyes on the prize people.
There will be good losses and bad losses, the pain is inevitable. Keep your eyes on the prize people.
HoweHullOrr
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What are people predicting the returns will be now for these guys, assuming they aren't waived?
Curious.
Problem is they all have contracts that we got to find a team that is willing to take them. That will be a tough task without retaining money. Only one of them that shouldn't be a problem is Bernier. But we would first need to find an upgrade before trading him.
tokyoite
I changed my name from "nipponjin" last summer.
Frankly, I'm not angry.
I'm just speechless.
Don't worry, I'm aware that this is a painful rebuilding, I can bear it.
I'm just speechless.
Don't worry, I'm aware that this is a painful rebuilding, I can bear it.
After the flurry of effort and attentiveness from the vets to start Babcock's tenure, we're reaching that point in the season where Babcock is actually seeing what he has. Past coaches (not Horachek) gave in and tailored the team's system to suit its talent in order to maximize results. Babcock isn't going to do that just like Horachek before him. I think right now he's finding out that even some of the team's more talented and productive forwards don't fit into the team's future either.
Seriously? Unless any of them play over their heads, absolutely nothing above a fifth rounder imho.
Not much.
But we're 10 games in. Plenty of time before the deadline.
If even 1 of those guys raise their stock, it's worked out.
By the way, what is up with the Ducks? How is it possible they are tied with us? We might, might get a bit better after personnel learn how to play with each other under the Babcock system. Thankfully though, it appears we have a lot of guys who would just prefer not to bother trying to adjust.
Mess
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This new trial period for the players is to determine for the new GM and coach who stays and who goes.
Right now I would have to say Rielly, Hunwick and maybe Kadri & JVR are the only ones making a case for themselves being here in this new regime.
Scoring just 20 goals in their first 10 games demonstrates there isn't a lot of salvageable talent on the roster, despite the Babcock having the compete level improved significantly from the past year.
Right now I would have to say Rielly, Hunwick and maybe Kadri & JVR are the only ones making a case for themselves being here in this new regime.
Scoring just 20 goals in their first 10 games demonstrates there isn't a lot of salvageable talent on the roster, despite the Babcock having the compete level improved significantly from the past year.
