Post-Game Talk: Leafs lose 5-2

[Al14]

When I read posts like this I sometimes wonder - do you ever wonder how this team is 4th overall in the standings (despite all the injuries this season) instead of 24th? Hint - this team is better than you think, a lot better.

And yet, they can't beat bottom feeders and bubble teams. 4th overall in the standings when the salaries of the core players should mean 1st overall or close to it. JMHO.

 

[notDatsyuk]

The entire club suck lol but more seriously

Leafs was not as bad to begin the game, but samsonov had a pretty bad 1st period and leafs didn't show up rest of the game.

The 3 goal he allowed on 1st was weak...

1st : NHL goalie cant give that kind of rebounds

2nd yes its mcdavid but no reason to go in

3rd : if he didn't move at all, it would be a save but he started to move in his left and hyman scored because of it...

Honestly i dont understand why keefe kept samsonov in net

Hard to blame the goalie for a PP goal, especially when your best PKer makes such a poor play to start it.

Not impressed by the second in particular.

But I understand why Keefe keeps starting him, because every other goalie he's been given is worse.

 

[Dayjobdave]

Yeah, they did look a little sluggish that night. Goalie made it better than it was.

I guess it's human nature to look a little more critically at your own team than others.

Overall I would say the Bruins really do seem to show up every night this season, but the Leafs have only pitched a handful of stinkers. Definitely more than Boston, but overall pretty good.

It still sucks to watch when it happens though. I was pretty excited to sit down to the game last night, and it was apparent on that first giveaway on the PK that we were in for it.

 

[Hellcat]

Points per game are so inflated the last few years that PPG doesn't mean what it used to.

Matthews is outside thr top 30 for points. Completely unacceptable given his contract. I have hopes he is saving it up for the playoffs but that is probably a glass half full approach. Probably carrying an injury like he seems to every season at some point

LOL, that is a ridiculous take. You know what also gets you in the top 30 , GAMES PLAYED. If he played as many games as McDavid, Matty would have 70 points. good for 18th place, 4 points out of 10th.

These uneducated shit on our stars comments need to be sent directly to the garbage can.

 

[Ziggdiezan]

LOL, that is a ridiculous take. You know what also gets you in the top 30 , GAMES PLAYED. If he played as many games as McDavid, Matty would have 70 points. good for 18th place, 4 points out of 10th.

These uneducated shit on our stars comments need to be sent directly to the garbage can.

22nd in points per game, still not good enough. He is behind Zach Hyman in points and points per game, is that not a problem to you?

 

[Gabriel426]

Yeah, they did look a little sluggish that night. Goalie made it better than it was.

I guess it's human nature to look a little more critically at your own team than others.

They also didn’t look good against Oilers too. McD was craving their D like they are nothing

 

[ShaneFalco]

Thought the new acquisitions would have injected some energy. But this team shits the bed at odd times

 

[Mess]

You can really see why Zach Hyman has so many 29 goals and 72 points this year.

He recorded 1 goal and 1 assists yesterday but had 7 shots on net including a couple of breakaways that Sammy stopped him on.

He could easily have had a hattrick on quality chances.

Its really too bad the Leafs couldn't have kept him.

 

[FerrisRox]

My favourite was that the leafs intentionally refused to keep scoring on the zamboni driver because he was "their friend" and they "felt too bad."

This is honestly the single funniest take I ever read on these boards.

The best part was not just the absurdity of the suggestion, but there were a handful of posters who not only adamantly believed this was true, but they couldn't believe how "stupid" everyone else was that were dumb enough to believe that the Leafs didn't throw that game.

One guy even said that if the Leafs had won, the game would have been "under protest" because the Hurricanes goaltender was an "MLSE" employee. When it was pointed out that every EBUG goaltender is common knowledge to both teams and there would be no issue or conflict of interest issue, it was somehow dismissed and it went back to "You think the Leafs couldn't have lit that guy up? They just didn't want to look like jerks."

It was truly an insane reaction but the True Believers were next level.

 

[notDatsyuk]

I've watched a bunch of Bruin games but certainly not close to all of them. I know good Teams have off nights and lose from time to time but has anyone ever seen the Bruins mail it in this year like we saw last night?

They have a captain and leaders who don't, and who won't let anyone else.

 

[Azail]

They have a captain and leaders who don't, and who won't let anyone else.

They did 2 nights ago. If anyone watched Flames/Bruins, the flames outright dominated them. Ullmark was the only reason they were in that game. And the fact that Backlund took a stupid penalty 5 minutes left in the 3rd was the only reason the Bruins tied it and won in OT.

 

[ACC1224]

They also didn’t look good against Oilers too. McD was craving their D like they are nothing

Bruins still won that one I believe.

 

[Stephen]

You can really see why Zach Hyman has so many 29 goals and 72 points this year.

He recorded 1 goal and 1 assists yesterday but had 7 shots on net including a couple of breakaways that Sammy stopped him on.

He could easily have had a hattrick on quality chances.

Its really too bad the Leafs couldn't have kept him.

I think O’Reilly approaches what prime Hyman’s role is, but the interesting outcome of this upcoming run is whether we finally get to the point whether the play of the team (core) gets to the point where these low floor games are not acceptable.

No team is perfect, yada yada. But my feeling is whenever this Leaf core is put into a front runner role when things look good, leading in a series, look like everyone likes them, optimistic about their chances or playing a clear cut bottom feeder, they just go on a mission accomplished auto pilot. This is a really nasty personality trait that has limited their potential as a group.

 

[Seath The Scaleless]

They did 2 nights ago. If anyone watched Flames/Bruins, the flames outright dominated them. Ullmark was the only reason they were in that game. And the fact that Backlund took a stupid penalty 5 minutes left in the 3rd was the only reason the Bruins tied it and won in OT.

Was that a mail-in or simply fatigue from 3 in 4 / 4 in 6 against a rested team?

 

[GoonieFace]

Let’s give them a pass for that last night, how they show up tonight will tell the tale

 

[Gabriel426]

Bruins still won that one I believe.

Bruins won both games. But they weren’t dominating performances by any means.

 

[Azail]

Was that a mail-in or simply fatigue from 3 in 4 / 4 in 6 against a rested team?

No idea. Just pointing out that all teams have off games. Most people in the Leafs forum seem to think only the Leafs do. Probably because they only really pay attention to the Leafs, which is fair, but watch enough of any team and you will see the same thing.

 

[Mess]

I think O’Reilly approaches what prime Hyman’s role is, but the interesting outcome of this upcoming run is whether we finally get to the point whether the play of the team (core) gets to the point where these low floor games are not acceptable.

No team is perfect, yada yada. But my feeling is whenever this Leaf core is put into a front runner role when things look good, leading in a series, look like everyone likes them, optimistic about their chances or playing a clear cut bottom feeder, they just go on a mission accomplished auto pilot. This is a really nasty personality trait that has limited their potential as a group.

Hyman was my favourite Leaf and now Ryan O'Rielly was before and is now my new favourite Leaf player.

I just see Kerfoot at $3.5 mil and Holl at $2 mil and Leafs could easily have dealt them to keep Zach Hyman at $5.5 mil,

 

[notDatsyuk]

I watched that game, and the night before in Edmonton.

Calgary played with real intensity, full credit for the win they didn't get.

None of the Bruins had a particularly good game either night, but certainly nothing like the mailed in mess we contributed last night.

Big difference between an off night and a no-show.

 

[ACC1224]

Hyman was my favourite Leaf and now Ryan O'Rielly was before and is now my new favourite Leaf player.

I just see Kerfoot at $3.5 mil and Holl at $2 mil and Leafs could easily have dealt them to keep Zach Hyman at $5.5 mil,

Hyman looks to be a bad move in hindsight......it happens.

I watched that game, and the night before in Edmonton.

Calgary played with real intensity, full credit for the win they didn't get.

None of the Bruins had a particularly good game either night, but certainly nothing like the mailed in mess we contributed last night.

Big difference between an off night and a no-show.

That's kind of what I was getting at.

 

[Mess]

I watched that game, and the night before in Edmonton.

Calgary played with real intensity, full credit for the win they didn't get.

None of the Bruins had a particularly good game either night, but certainly nothing like the mailed in mess we contributed last night.

Big difference between an off night and a no-show.

I watched both games as well and Flames couldn't have played much better or with more intensity against the Bruins.

If the Leafs get that version of the Flames tonight they're going to need a to be a lot better than last night to secure the win.

 

[Stephen]

Hyman was my favourite Leaf and now Ryan O'Rielly was before and is now my new favourite Leaf player.

I just see Kerfoot at $3.5 mil and Holl at $2 mil and Leafs could easily have dealt them to keep Zach Hyman at $5.5 mil,

Yeah the Hyman situation could have unfolded differently. Kerfoot is such a drag on the cap. Doesn’t help that his on ice play is so vanilla.

 

[Gary Nylund]

And yet, they can't beat bottom feeders and bubble teams. 4th overall in the standings when the salaries of the core players should mean 1st overall or close to it. JMHO.

If you're going by salaries then there are a number of teams who spend just as much as the Leafs do that are behind them in the standings, some of the far behind.

 

[Stephen]

I watched both games as well and Flames couldn't have played much better or with more intensity against the Bruins.

If the Leafs get that version of the Flames tonight they're going to need a to be a lot better than last night to secure the win.

Maybe they need to get their doors blown off so they can move off celebration mode after Seattle. This team seems to need its self inflicted adversity to get anything going. They seem to always run into trouble when the good vibes gets out of hand. Slacker team.

 

[Gary Nylund]

Hyman was my favourite Leaf and now Ryan O'Rielly was before and is now my new favourite Leaf player.

I just see Kerfoot at $3.5 mil and Holl at $2 mil and Leafs could easily have dealt them to keep Zach Hyman at $5.5 mil,

O'Rielly is rather loveable, isn't he? I don't know if I could name one favorite but I'd say my top 4 as of today in no particular order are Rielly, Marner, Nylander and O'Rielly.

Regarding Hyman, hindsight is great but at the time I don't think anyone thought not signing him for what EDM paid him was a bad move and we'll also see how that contract looks a few years from now.