Two guys from our crew died of Lou Getig’s disease that’s a mathematical oddity, but some of the old timers used to tell stories of spraying Agent Orange and Paraquat, luckily that was before my time. The worst I was exposed to were Malethion, Garland, Simazine, Calmix, Killex, and Roundup……..
Chelios isn't a perfect arbiter of integrity either and I don't think we're on a moral high ground to burden Shanahan with Chelios' perspective of him.
He didn’t take enough time to evaluate them. I bet he learned from that mistake.
I think it was David Nivens' autobiography, he was relating an incident with a foreign director who was obviously not too fluent in English. At one point he yelled at the cast/crew "you think I know f**k nothing, but I tell you, I know f**k all".
We don't have a first till 2028 I hate that we gave up our 1st because it doesn't allow you to reset this team.
Timeline wise that would make sense
We do have our 1st but only if its bottom 5 or so.
Da faster da games get da less and less involved you will see Matty and Mitch ... but we got a chance with Stolly Tanev McCabe OEL Carlo and Benoit .. we will need 4 outstanding games from da core group of 5 to win a series
It gonna have to happen unless McDavid decides to come here. I think every leafs fans dream. If he resigns with the Oilers-likely. We start to tear it down IMO unless some great UFA sign here this summer.
Father says all is well and the Leafs are just saving it up for the playoffs!
It was pretty obvious Marner, Nylander and Matthews would be highly skilled, non physical players and at the same time seeing that players like the Tkachuk brothers would be physical players who would do anything to win. Even after three seasons watching their core Shanahan/Dubas could have adjusted but they traded Kadri instead of finding more gamers so he wasn’t the only Leaf to stand up to the Bruins and then let Hyman walk. Leafs management bet that skill alone was enough to win a cup and they destroyed the chance to build a real cup contender by settling for a few star players who brought regular season and personal success rather than building a team with 23 good players who would compete hard when the going got tough.
The Leafs also don’t pass the puck well. Too much time on the PP is spent accepting a pass and dusting it off. Very few one timers or shots off the pass. The best power plays in the league pass the puck well and have more set positions to shoot from. The Leafs PP is just too easy to defend.
To me it means they’re too risk averse and unwilling to make hard decisions, and the changes needed to be a cup contender. They make a ton of money and that’s how Shanahan has kept his job this long. Teams that don’t have nearly the money the Leafs do are far more ruthless and hold their players to account. Teams like Tampa, Bruins, Florida, Vegas, Dallas have consistent team success and trade away players or let them walk if they think it will make the team better. The Leafs have run it back year after year without changing the core of their team even though they should have seen that this group couldn’t win when it counted five years ago. To me they’re either not serious enough about winning a cup or they’re completely incompetent which is still an inditement on their commitment to winning at all costs.
The only explanation is they don’t think by him playing it makes the injury worse or that he will get better by resting it. I think he’s going to need surgery in the off season.
That's all fair enough, I do not think Seriousness is a very intelligible metric but I can see how it kind of tracks from the JFJ hire through to this group. I guess I find it more interesting how these words and phrases seem to catch on, the Leafs not being a serious team being one recent example but north-south hockey is another that came and went from the summer to maybe Nov or Dec. Not many here talk about our new north-south style anymore
It’s also toxic because we have seen where this is heading. One playoff series win in nine attempts has given people PTSD and game sevens have a lot to do with that.
What is our style ? I have no idea what it is. Maybe the North South style stuff gained some traction early in the season when Berube had their attention. That structure and discipline along with stellar goaltending led to some success and the players bought in until the more physical demands and injuries started piling up. To me this team isn’t built to play that physically demanding style especially their star players who like to possess the puck and stick check to get it back. Hard to play dump and chase with a soft core group including their highest paid defenseman who looks like he’s playing in an old timers league. They’ve had three different coaches with different approaches and none have molded them into a cup contender. It seems obvious that paying five soft players 61% of their cap was not only a disastrous decision but running it back year after year and keeping Shanahan in his position pointed the Titanic straight toward the iceberg.
