Post-Game Talk: Leafs Lose 3-1

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For me, the answer to that is:

Never. Never, ever, EVER in a million years. I'll stop watching the NHL altogether before I cheer for a different team. If that means I never see a Stanley Cup so be it.

But I understand if others think otherwise.
Well said.

While I can admire and appreciate how other teams are managed and play, that remains purely in the head and never in the heart.

There can only be the Leafs and the Steelers for me, win, lose, or draw. I could not fathom feeling for another team and invest the way I have emotionally in them.

If ever I’m pushed across the point of no return with them, then I pursue pickle ball more enthusiastically to fill the time I would have spent watching Steelers/Leaf games.

As for the game, a disappointing but not unexpected outcome.

Florida are the new boogeyman for the Leafs, and interesting they added a member of the old boogeyman in Marchand to add a deeper level of boogieosity to the dynamic.

Such a shame that one of our youngest players in Knies has to call out their team for playing soft, and is leading by example to be hard to play against. Where are guys with letters on their jerseys?

Oh yeah……

Cheers
 
Actually calling out my own lie.

I loved the Dallas Cowboys as much as I loved the Steelers.

Completely turned my back on them though when Jerry Jones bought the team from Tex Schramm, and proceeded to treat Tom Landry like garbage.

Thought Jones was an arrogant, disrespectful piece of shit, and he still is.

Completely turned my back on the Cowboys and have never looked back
 
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Actually calling out my own lie.

I loved the Dallas Cowboys as much as I loved the Steelers.

Completely turned my back on them though when Jerry Jones bought the team from Tex Schramm, and proceeded to treat Tom Landry like garbage.

Thought Jones was an arrogant, disrespectful piece of shit, and he still is.

Completely turned my back on the Cowboys and have never looked back
Me too. I was a Cowboys fan from the late 60’s and Jones ruined it for me. Bills all the way now.
 
Do we need to speculate on Matthews’ injury every time he plays poorly? He was 110% in that LA game but so banged up just because he was ineffective vs Florida? He often struggles in a low scoring, defensive and physically tight matchup environments.
Literal narratives have been fabricated straight out of people's imaginations that Barkov was somehow hard-matched against Matthews all game when that's not even close to true, Tavares played the most time against Barkov by a pretty large margin.

These excuses are getting more pathetic by the day.
 
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We always thought he meant pain followed by joy. Not pain end of sentence.
To be fair. He did not get a chance to finish getting the players ready to play a complete game. I would love to see what an alternate timeline with Lamourello and Babcock in charge for a few more years would look like.
 
Who? Orlov is coming up, he just got a 7 million dollar contract and didn't live up to it...

Fantasy land is, yes, we sign multiple players to smaller contracts who out perform what Mitch could have done, that is the ideal scenario.

I just think more often than not, this doesn't happen.

You have to try something if they fail again.
 
Actually calling out my own lie.

I loved the Dallas Cowboys as much as I loved the Steelers.

Completely turned my back on them though when Jerry Jones bought the team from Tex Schramm, and proceeded to treat Tom Landry like garbage.

Thought Jones was an arrogant, disrespectful piece of shit, and he still is.

Completely turned my back on the Cowboys and have never looked back
Since it's the Cowboys, I'll allow it.
 
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Literal narratives have been fabricated straight out of people's imaginations that Barkov was somehow hard-matched against Matthews all game when that's not even close to true, Tavares played the most time against Barkov by a pretty large margin.

These excuses are getting more pathetic by the day.
Our first line isnt good enough and they need to switch it up it isnt just gonna magically start working on its own Knies makes that line go that’s terrible or if Matthews has jump that line goes marner needs them to go to be effective he needs the time and space and they have to provide it
 
Well said.

While I can admire and appreciate how other teams are managed and play, that remains purely in the head and never in the heart.

There can only be the Leafs and the Steelers for me, win, lose, or draw. I could not fathom feeling for another team and invest the way I have emotionally in them.

If ever I’m pushed across the point of no return with them, then I pursue pickle ball more enthusiastically to fill the time I would have spent watching Steelers/Leaf games.

As for the game, a disappointing but not unexpected outcome.

Florida are the new boogeyman for the Leafs, and interesting they added a member of the old boogeyman in Marchand to add a deeper level of boogieosity to the dynamic.

Such a shame that one of our youngest players in Knies has to call out their team for playing soft, and is leading by example to be hard to play against. Where are guys with letters on their jerseys?

Oh yeah……

Cheers
I used to be this passionate about the Leafs and for that matter the country, but today, not so much…….
 
Actually calling out my own lie.

I loved the Dallas Cowboys as much as I loved the Steelers.

Completely turned my back on them though when Jerry Jones bought the team from Tex Schramm, and proceeded to treat Tom Landry like garbage.

Thought Jones was an arrogant, disrespectful piece of shit, and he still is.

Completely turned my back on the Cowboys and have never looked back
Takes a real man to admit he’s not as dedicated to hus as he says…….
 
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Panthers were desperate for a win.
Leafs were not

Both teams played accordingly.

No big deal.
 
Other than JT losing the draw on the first and third goals, that line wasn't much at fault, and it did score our only one.

"First line played the Panthers first line even" is an interesting take.

The only thing ibsaw from this line is Jt trying to create something alone but overal that line had been trash.

Nylander had been a ghost
Mcmann played one if his worst game this season

Only 2 SC vs 10 against
1 HDC vs 4 against ( no other line had more than 2 against them)
-,60 expected ( team worst)

The goal was an individual play by JT

Honestly, not sure we really watched the same game

Honestly everything leafs produced last night at 5v5 came off jt and marner and was pretty weak...

Marner who hit the post to start 2nd period, JT goal and marner forecheck who gave up matthews and knies with 5 minute remaining. That's it....

Everybody had been trash
 
The only thing ibsaw from this line is Jt trying to create something alone but overal that line had been trash.

Nylander had been a ghost
Mcmann played one if his worst game this season

Only 2 SC vs 10 against
1 HDC vs 4 against ( no other line had more than 2 against them)
-,60 expected ( team worst)

The goal was an individual play by JT

Honestly, not sure we really watched the same game

Honestly everything leafs produced last night at 5v5 came off jt and marner and was pretty weak...

Marner who hit the post to start 2nd period, JT goal and marner forecheck who gave up matthews and knies with 5 minute remaining. That's it....

Everybody had been trash
Well I can agree we don't seem to have watched the same game. :laugh:
 
Well I can agree we don't seem to have watched the same game. :laugh:

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stats by line ( the 1st one is second line)
 
I wax much younger then.

With age comes more stupidity in matters of this regard……
That’s life, why I’d never get a tattoo, nothings permanent, never thought I’d be embarrassed of bring a Leaf fan or a Canadian for that matter but here we are……
 
So you watched the stats instead of the game? That explains it.

i watch both but funny to see uour trying to convince yourself than this line had been finewhen its the line who gave up more scoring chance and alone they gave more High scoring chance than the 3 line remaining together...and they got a pretty impressioning total of 2 scoring chancer. Pretty impressive...

but yeah for sure that was way much better seeing guy trying to make figure skating to finally just lost the puck

And they shluld had been best line again tonight 🤣
 
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Well, these are threads to discuss the game itself... so that is all fair game.

Beating Tampa is not the same as beating Florida imo.

Fights make styles. Matchups matter. That’s why it’s easier against certain teams and harder against others.

The Leafs as a team often struggle in low scoring, hard checking, grinding, defensive and physically tight games against big physical teams playing that brand of hockey. That’s why we struggle against teams like Ottawa (0-4 against them this year ), Washington (1-2 against them this year) and Florida (1-3 against them this year ) but we thrive in much more softer physically, offensively open games against free wheeling and run and gun based finesse teams like New Jersey (3-0 record against them this year )Tampa Bay (also a 3-0 record against them this year ) and Montreal (2-1 record against them this year )

Tampa is the best team in the East based on goal differential. They have a goal differential of 74, the best one in the East and the second best one in the league after the Jets. In theory, they should be extremely hard to beat for Toronto. But for some reason, vasi is not at his best when he plays against the Leafs and Tampa/Toronto games are usually open and not physical with both teams trading offensive scoring chances. It’s easy for the Leafs when The game is played on the rush instead of being played along the boards . They are comfortable in that environment/situation. When it’s a skill game rather than a grinding and physical game, it will be likely for the Leafs to win it. When the game is reduced to physical and grinding puck battles, when defensemen are heavily pressured and can’t make first passes out of their zone to manufacture zone entries, when there’s no time and space for forwards to create and finish plays. That’s when It’s hard as hell for The leafs. Toronto can’t win games when they become wars of attrition.

. As for Carolina ( the leafs are 1-1 against them this season) they are not a run and gun finesse based team but they are not a physical, brutal and mean team to play against either. They are sound defensively but they don’t have elite game breakers on offense so if you shutdown the Aho line you will win. And you can’t even trust their goaltending to help them win games when it matters most.

Our kryptonite is a team with almost all of these elements :

1. a smart and quick transition game (quick counterattack and efficient zone entries)
2. an aggressive and relentless forecheck that puts heavy and constant physical pressure on our D
3.great defensive awareness/hockey sense. Basically a Suffocating Defensive team who is frustrating to play against
4. Speed( the leafs are slower than most people think )
5. Physicality/mean factor
6. Strong on the puck and wins most of the puck battles along the boards
7. Great power play primarily managed by an elite defenseman with great vision, great puck moving, playmaking and power play quarterback abilities, and a powerful and accurate shot from the point.( basically the opposite of current Morgan rielly )
8. Elite goaltending
9. Team who can both beat you in the alley and on the ice. Winning the physical and mental wars of intimidation and attrition. - basically a team that has as much Will as skill.
 
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