Post-Game Talk: Leafs lose 3-1; lose series

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I don't think he considered that the rocket winner would score 1 goal in 7 games and the leafs assist leader and ice time leader would shit the bed. If they live up to half what was expected from them we win the series pretty easy. That's not really on Dubas. The timid and passive style the leafs have, now that might be on Dubas.
He surrounded 34 with a bunch a usekess plugs. Spezza was the best of them.
 
Oiler fan. I feel and know your pain. don't worry, you'll come around in a few days.

My 2 cents: As an Oilers fan, I've decided to become a full-fledged casual/bandwagon fan. Like I am with the Jays and Raps; I follow them somewhat, and when they go on a run, I'm all in. It's just not worth the pain to be a hardcore Oilers and/or Leafs fan. They break your heart most of the time.
 
I only got 4 things to say....

  1. Fire Shanahan
  2. Fire Dubas
  3. Fire Keefe
  4. Trade Marner

f*** this team.

As long as Shanahan/Dubas/Keefe/Marner are part of the Leafs I am done with this pos team.

Enjoy your summer! Stay safe!

Cheers!
Rielly and his feather shots can go too. Need an actual #1 dman with a Shot. Rielly is a bitch and probably hasnt broken 20 mph in his life. Im almost at the end of my rope with Marner, Wanted the Leafs to draft him and they did, year after year he shows up in regular season, but checks out at Game 1 every playoff. Need guys like Scheifele and Point type player who bust their ass off every shift whether its Game 19 of regular season or Game 1 of stanley cup playoffs.

Enjoy your summer too and Go Blue Jays!!!
 
Babcock was right.

he called this out years ago.

Marner getting 11 million was the nail in our coffin and so many other teams said the same.

This swimsuit supermodel looks solid all year until the pageant comes and she stops squatting, starts eating burgers and can’t fit into a bikini when it counts
 
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Thornton was a predictable disaster. The guy that was never able to raise his own game was going to come in an lead? The whole situation was made worse by the coach’s insistence on playing him in key roles.

Simmonds was a smart gamble. If he manages to stay healthy, he would have been good. Before his mid-season injury, he worked his way up to the second line. It became clear though, that his body has just broken down too much.
He had Fluked his way into the 2nd line with unsustainable tips on the PP.

Joe on the first line never made sense, and he likely plays his way out of th lineup if not for the JT injury, but he should have been able to hack it as a 12th forward seeing PP time
 
Matthews runs the show.

he wanted to play with Marner.

Keefe does what Matthews wants.

If that is the case you fire Keefe if in the last game of the season you don't seperate two players who are struggling to play with each other. Was there a single good play between those two for the entire seven games? Matthews and Hyman did decent cycling but then the puck comes to Marner for a dead play. But did Marner to Matthews happen at any point ?

Keefe put faith blindly and stupidly on a top line that should have been split up. Everything should have been attempted to get those two players going. If it hurts their feelings it would have been a lot less bad then blowing a 3 1 series lead.
 
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Haha blaming the fans for moves dubas made?? The fact that you think that tells me you aren't being objective
Yes the fans said to do what Dubas did. He listened to them and got what he deserved. Blame should go to that silly movement.
 
I don't see Dubas or Keith getting fired.

But I do see Toronto doing something in the offseason that's made to shake the core even if it's not an even trade. Someone is going to move not because the player or players coming back are better, but because everyone on the team will have to adjust to their new environment and become better or find the door.
 
Seriously what grit?

Idk, depth guys rarely played. Think they averaged like 10 mins a game and it might have been less than that from games 5-7 because we were always behind. Foligno was brought in to bring some grit but was injured the entire series and missed how many games. We try and blame our grit when we lost 2 games because of 2 of our young defenders with bad turnovers in bad areas and then another 1 because of a bad pass in a bad area by Gally.
 
It’s going to be Nylander that gets moved and that will be the wrong move. I just can’t see Marner getting traded. Who’s going to take on his contract?
I think they also need to let hyman go
Marner isn't owed much actual dollars, that'll make him att active and he can draw fans.

Plus he needs to move on for his own good as well. This won't end well if he stays and struggles in this market.
 
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First of all. Quit it with silly nicknames. It makes you look insecure which is common with Dubas critics.
So basically his issue was he listened to the big gritty group, instead of get good players which he has? I agree. Maybe he builds his team his way and not fall for fan pressure.
The fact your saying the Muzzin deal is bad tells me you aren't being objective.

What name calling? Is Fanboy name calling? What about calling people "haters"? That not name calling?

Where did i say the Muzzin deal was bad? I just said he traded valuable pieces with nothing to show for it in terms of result.

Its asinine to think that a GM of the richest hockey team in the world changed his philosophy to add grit to the team just to appease fans in spite of his own beliefs. If he did that then he had less backbone than i thought.

We didnt lose because of grit, lost because a good chunk of HIS core score 1 goal in the first round against the WORST team to make the 2021 playoffs.
 
Gotta feel for Campbell, poor bloke looked devastated after the game and in the post game interview.
Jack has nothing to feel bad about. Andersen was failing badly and he stepped up and gave us the best goaltending we've seen in decades. He should be the starter next year, no questions.
 
Everybody calm down! Next year is going to be...............








Us losing in game 7 of course.:laugh:
some accountability when you put on the Mapleleaf uniform or is it just a piggy bank is it too much to ask for them to show up They just keep getting worse
 
He had Fluked his way into the 2nd line with unsustainable tips on the PP.

Joe on the first line never made sense, and he likely plays his way out of th lineup if not for the JT injury, but he should have been able to hack it as a 12th forward seeing PP time

Simmonds played really well for a half dozen games before getting hurt.
 
Eichel for Marner and cap equalization would be the best move for both teams. Buffalo can't get into playoffs, Marner helps them produce during the regular season, we get Eichel and move JT on the wing. AND pray to god that he can take some heat to make plays come playoffs.
 
So, we have a combined 6 draft picks in the next 2 seasons. For another first round exit. Isn't a tenet of analytics having more draft picks to increase your odds, but we probably have the least over the next 2 seasons? With nothing to show for it.
 
Idk, depth guys rarely played. Think they averaged like 10 mins a game and it might have been less than that from games 5-7 because we were always behind. Foligno was brought in to bring some grit but was injured the entire series and missed how many games. We try and blame our grit when we lost 2 games because of 2 of our young defenders with bad turnovers in bad areas and then another 1 because of a bad pass in a bad area by Gally.
I'm with u if anything we needed more grit.
 
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What name calling? Is Fanboy name calling? What about calling people "haters"? That not name calling?

Where did i say the Muzzin deal was bad? I just said he traded valuable pieces with nothing to show for it in terms of result.

Its asinine to think that a GM of the richest hockey team in the world changed his philosophy to add grit to the team just to appease fans in spite of his own beliefs. If he did that then he had less backbone than i thought.

We didnt lose because of grit, lost because a good chunk of HIS core score 1 goal in the first round against the WORST team to make the 2021 playoffs.
Yes fanboys is name calling. I can't blame Dubas for this but I agree the contracts are on him. He can rectify that mistake unless this organization does something silly and fires him.
 
Everybody calm down! Next year is going to be...............








Us losing in game 7 of course.:laugh:

Leafs are going back to the Atlantic - minus Rielly and most likely Hyman. Maybe even Marner (which is an unwinnable trade, IMO)

Do they make the playoffs next season?
 
If that is the case you fire Keefe if in the last game of the season you don't seperate two players who are struggling to play with each other. Was there a single good play between those two for the entire seven games? Matthews and Hyman did decent cycling but then the puck comes to Marner for a dead play. But did Marner to Matthews happen at any point ?

Keefe put faith blindly and stupidly on a top line that should have been split up. Everything should have been attempted to get those two players going. If it hurts their feelings it would have been a lot less bad then blowing a 3 1 series lead.

Dubas only fires Keefe if Matthews wants Dubas to fire Keefe.

The next coach would have to visit him at his mansion and promise ice time and line mates of his choosing.

We’ll see.

Babcock wanted them separated so each could drive their lines.
 
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