Friedman: Leafs in on Giordano, teams also waiting on Lindholm.

[jetsforever]

Another old Toronto player wanting to go home

 

[JKG33]

Gross I hope not. This'll be even worse than the Foligno trade I'm sure

 

[jfhabs]

He'll most likely cost 1st or equivalent prospect.

 

[Some Other Flame]

You submit your NTC at the start of the year. You can't just change it depending on how you're feeling that day.

Not necessarily. Depends on how they're structured. Some only need to be provided if asked other need to be submitted on a certain day of the year. Depends entirely on what was negotiated.

 

[TheScandal89]

In this scenario we would keep him, he would be moved in the offseason to help with the Lindholm extension.

Yeah I was gonna say in my last post that I thought I misread your post, but I got busy and couldnt until now lol

 

[LeafGrief]

Just like Foligno, I think Giordano is a good player for the Leafs to target. Just like Foligno, I expect that he will cost far too much and will not make a difference in our playoff winning or losing. If a deal is made, I expect that I will hate it, but I'd still cheer for the guy.

 

[cyris]

You submit your NTC at the start of the year. You can't just change it depending on how you're feeling that day.

It depends on how the contract is written they are all different.

 

[Cotton]

Another old Toronto player wanting to go home

I mean, the young ones want to as well, depends on the player.

 

[Cotton]

It isn’t strictly helping them out, it’s helping Seattle out as well. If Carolina makes the best offer it would be stupid not to take it for his own personal reasons. He has to keep Seattle’s best interests in mind, not his own.

What would your offer be?

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

Top priority for Giordano is to reunite with Brodie until he retires. This is no surprise.

 

[FerrisRox]

It depends on how the contract is written they are all different.

I don't think that's true. I'm almost certain that partial no trade lists have to be submitted in the off-season and are locked in until the following off-season when they can be changed.

 

[cyris]

I don't think that's true. I'm almost certain that partial no trade lists have to be submitted in the off-season and are locked in until the following off-season when they can be changed.

Nope it depends on the contract and the language with witch it’s written.
The way you describe is the most common form but not the only one

 

[MagicalRazor]

Hopefully the leafs can use his desire as leverage and obtain him at a fair price .

Don't mind adding him but not selling the farm for him either.

Only way it would work is if muzzin remains out into play offs . Or you take Engvall + Dermott / Holl and Giordano comes back at 50%

 

[Leaf Fans]

Taking less from another team in a different conference out of spite is too childish to believe.

This for sure. GMs are professionals. They wouldn't let petty things influence them too much. Seattle and Carolina can make trades.

 

[Snipes45]

Just like Foligno, I think Giordano is a good player for the Leafs to target. Just like Foligno, I expect that he will cost far too much and will not make a difference in our playoff winning or losing. If a deal is made, I expect that I will hate it, but I'd still cheer for the guy.

He will break some knees, ala how Carolina injured so many players against teams they played in 2006. He will help.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

FWIW, Lebrun has said he's gotten the impression that Giordano would accept a move to practically any contender.

 

[LeafGrief]

He will break some knees, ala how Carolina injured so many players against teams they played in 2006. He will help.

If you can't beat 'em, trade for 'em. He'd be in a Leafs jersey, so at least we'd all get the catharsis of seeing him get a long suspension.

 

[capfit9]

no thanks

 

[AvroArrow]

Gross I hope not. This'll be even worse than the Foligno trade I'm sure

As long as Gio plays there's no chance it'll be worse than the Foligno trade. The worst part of that trade wasn't even that we acquired him, it was that Dubas decided Hall wasn't the right fit here and Foligno was.

 

[Suntouchable13]

As long as Gio plays there's no chance it'll be worse than the Foligno trade. The worst part of that trade wasn't even that we acquired him, it was that Dubas decided Hall wasn't the right fit here and Foligno was.

I really thought we needed the grit that Foligno provides. I thought we were locked and loaded last season and primed to go on a big run. I think that Gio can help but only if the stars actually play well and don't cower.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

I'd argue the last two rentals the Leafs made (Plekanec and Foligno) failed miserably because they took an older vet long past their prime based on what they'd done years prior.

Gio could be a good add for the Leafs, but I think Chiarot/Lindholm would have been much better.

Foligno was on IR no? Not aure how that argument is valid

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

How so? There's a world of difference between your intended message, and what you actually wrote, aka "the message".

So habs fans lack the basic level of deduction got it.

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

Yeah I was gonna say in my last post that I thought I misread your post, but I got busy and couldnt until now lol

No worries happens to me all the time.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

You are way off.

Giordano won't cost what Chiarot cost because he quite clearly isn't as good, let alone "far better." Chiarot would have been an excellent fit for the Leafs cause he can skate with that up-tempo team they have and he can log 20+ minutes and wear down the opposition while contributing an excellent shot to the Leafs high end offence. Chiarot would also have added some imposing size to the Leafs blue line, which it needs, and his physical play and good speed means he's always taking away time and space in the defensive zone.

Giordano's skating is nowhere close to Chiarot's and is below average. He needs to rely on his smarts and hockey IQ to be effective at all anymore and he doesn't have good size to really be a physical presence on the blue line and certainly doesn't create problems for people going to the net or heading into the corners.

Giordano is a "name" but he's no longer a player that will make any kind of difference for the Maple Leafs. They'd be much better off looking at Middleton or Braun if they are going to go after a blue liner that is only a marginally upgrade. Giordano is not the answer at all.

It's impressive that you managed to describe Giordano as a player in your first paragraph bit then described him as someone else entirely in the second paragraph

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Perhaps the Leafs are sellers really, and should not be wasting 1st round picks.

they are certinaly not sellers