GDT: Leafs in Carolina 7pm ET, SN, SNO, SNP, TVAS, BSSO, ESPN+, NHL LIVE

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Ok well let's all be serious here, I think most are just having fun. Babcock here right now makes ZERO difference. It's as if people were forgetting that the way this team is playing right now was the same then, which is a huge reason I can watch very little of them anymore. Not showing up for periods or games followed by spurts of domination. Using pure skill to overpower teams in a 5-10 minute stretch and being totally sloppy and lazy for the rest. The same types of things were said then as well about tuning out the coach and lack of leadership..etc. The problem is the core and always has been.

I love Matthews ability because he is on another level scoring. But my god I think someone said in the thread they feel there is something off about him. I fully agree there is something strange about him. Arrogant but at the same time not. Seems uncaring but sometimes he does. Can take over a game for a short stint and then just disappear for the rest.

Going back in history Im not sure i can point to a really good organized, structurally sound team since Burns.
 
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I've enjoyed watching Simmonds more than any other Leaf tonight. This team is really lacking heart. It's gotta start from the core and it hasn't for years now. The supporting cast doesn't seem to much matter
 
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Hunter is more grown up and knows when to put these kids and their high prices in their place., how did Dufas do with his "profeessional contract negotations"? oh right......

Oh but hes good with advanced stats:rolleyes:

lol I’m not claiming Dubas did well, but your assertion here has no basis in reality. Hunter is just a guy who scouted for us for a while and did a pretty shit job of it. There’s precisely no reason to think he’d have come out of contract negotiations any better than Dubas did
 
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I'm thinking Babcock wasn't the problem.... But they got four forwards at 10 million or whatever... And leafs fans are flipping out cause they have 4-5 guys that belong in the AHL.... Go figure...
 
lol I’m not claiming Dubas did well, but your assertion here has no basis in reality. Hunter is just a guy who scouted for us for a while and did a pretty shit job of it
Hunter would have been worse. His drafting record is a sorry sight.
 
I've enjoyed watching Simmonds more than any other Leaf tonight. This team is really lacking heart. It's gotta start from the core and it hasn't for years now. The supporting cast doesn't seem to much matter

I don’t think a random new support cast is usually tasked with turning around the culture of a room. Hockey culture usually doesn’t work like that.
 
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