Leafs Hour: Mike Futa Interview

[Wafflewhipper]

Kyle would have to have the biggest onions to make such a deal during the seaon. You are talking a trade in the Alomar/Carter for Fernandez/McGriff deal and those get made in the off season but it would sure be exciting if they pulled off something that big.

I’m crazy to even speculate that but most times you abstain from speculation trades until you see scenarios and direction teams are going just fits. I don’t have a slightest idea really. A blockbuster that works both ways nonetheless. I remember you said Forsberg starts with Nylander. We agreed. That part fits. Adding to it fits also. Quality for quality offense for defense etc. We give up some youth. It would take stones to do it more from Dubas than Poile because of the position in the standings and chemistry. Poile would be all over the defensive inadequacy coming back on the defensive side of the puck. Oh well,said my stinkin piece

 

[Menzinger]

If we moved Rielly/Nylander to Nashville with plus’s it would change the dynamic of the team beyond what anybody seen coming.
I know what i would want for Nylander and Rielly from Nashville. It would be a hockey trade that we get better defensively is the bones of it.
$12,000,000 i would expose right there as long as Forsberg is involved. All the other intricate stuff beyond that I wouldn’t even guess at. Forsberg/Ekholm+.... Rielly/Nylander +
That would be a huge hockey trade. Nylander being 2 years younger fits into the rebuild and he gets to play #1 center there.

There's an awful lot of reasons for Nashville to jump on that. Not as many for the Leafs to pull the trigger though

 

[Wafflewhipper]

There's an awful lot of reasons for Nashville to jump on that. Not as many for the Leafs to pull the trigger though

The price to either is variable. I didn’t fill in the pluses that equalize anything. How could i I don’t know beyond guessing. I would do Nylander for Forsberg straight up and call it a day too.

 

[Menzinger]

The price to either is variable. I didn’t fill in the pluses that equalize anything. How could i I don’t know beyond guessing. I would do Nylander for Forsberg straight up and call it a day too.

Imo that's a pretty clear loss for the Leafs. Nylanders younger, better offensively and signed for longer at current caphit.

Now adding Forsberg to the core by paying the price in futures is another story

 

[Wafflewhipper]

Imo that's a pretty clear loss for the Leafs. Nylanders younger, better offensively and signed for longer at current caphit.

Now adding Forsberg to the core by paying the price in futures is another story

I would do it. I would move Rielly this year too.

 

[Stephen]

Never heard of the show before but liked the insights from Futa. Had a bit of the know it all, veteran of the game attitude which I liked and was surprised to hear he's a Leafs fan (I guess who isn't?).

Didn't like the downplaying of Amirov's value. I think he's got unique upside and I'm in no hurry to trade him.

Don't really like Alex Kerfoot but he's not nearly the albatross they were painting him to be.

Surprised to learn about the extent of the Sandin foot injury. That's worrisome information that compounds the lack of in game development time over the past year and a half (in addition to some of the tough talk from the organization earlier this winter).

The speculation about the extent of damage re: Matthews wrist seems sensational. Can't damage it, can't rest it, might require surgery in the offseason? Any armchair medical experts care to weigh in on what kind of wrist issue (compounded by a crash into the boards) could be?

 

[ottomaddox]

Futa said that David Poile tends to do his trading on trade deadline day. If Toronto has interest in any Preds players then it won't jive with his interest in getting someone this week.

 

[Stephen]

Futa said that David Poile tends to do his trading on trade deadline day. If Toronto has interest in any Preds players then it won't jive with his interest in getting someone this week.

Definitely adds to the complication.

How did Mike Futa end up in the media personality business anyway, wasn't he still being considered for a full time GM role until very recently?

 

[SprDaVE]

Mike Futa reminds me of Paul Fenton.

 

[Buds17]

I certainly hope that Sandin isn't lost for the season. Don't think that would have had much to do with the trading of Lehtonen though as he (Lehtonen) was being blocked from playing more by Dermott.

 

[tuckertowns]

Sorry tuckertowns. I didn't see this.

No problem

 

[Teeder Keon]

Never heard of the show before but liked the insights from Futa. Had a bit of the know it all, veteran of the game attitude which I liked and was surprised to hear he's a Leafs fan (I guess who isn't?).

Didn't like the downplaying of Amirov's value. I think he's got unique upside and I'm in no hurry to trade him.

Don't really like Alex Kerfoot but he's not nearly the albatross they were painting him to be.

Surprised to learn about the extent of the Sandin foot injury. That's worrisome information that compounds the lack of in game development time over the past year and a half (in addition to some of the tough talk from the organization earlier this winter).

The speculation about the extent of damage re: Matthews wrist seems sensational. Can't damage it, can't rest it, might require surgery in the offseason? Any armchair medical experts care to weigh in on what kind of wrist issue (compounded by a crash into the boards) could be?

good points except for this one


Kerfoot = Albatross

 

[123offtheglass]

Started out as a really good take (d depth need vs f depth need) until my ears filled up with too much crap to listen anymore; couldn't even get halfway through. Heavily overestimating Forsberg he hasn't ever been a top 10 forward in the league that's a big stretch. His trade offer (Kerfoot, Engvall, Robertson, 2 1st round picks, & another middling prospect like SDA all the way up to AMIROV?!) for him is terrible for the Leafs, the Leafs aren't acquiring a top 10 forward in him. That package is way more than the Mark Stone deal (rental but extended immediately) who is a top 10-15 forward in the league, Forsberg isn't plain & simple.

Imagine the Leafs getting 1.5 yeafs of Forsberg for: Robertson, Amirov, 1st round pick, 1st round pick, Engvall, Kerfoot. Goodluck in the offseason too or expansion draft.

That may be one of the worst trades in the history of trades. Robertson if born a few days later has been outperforming everyone not named Tim Steutzle or Alexis Lafreniere since his OHL season to his NHL playoffs to AHL season. Maybe the guys in different leagues are debatable but he's definitely outperformed Byfield & Jack Quinn, #8 & #2 in supposedly a strong draft year.

Somewhat agree on Kerfoot take but he's isn't negative value, he'd be a luxury on the 4th line in the playoffs and kills penalties; even if he's a natural winger he's a capable centre. They could get a Johnsson or less return for him; highly doubt he could get a late 2nd but something like a 3rd would be fair especially with his salary remaining per cap hit.

 

[123offtheglass]

Some fans on this board are going to get a reality check in terms of what some of our players are worth. Just gotta hope teams are selling at 50 cents on the dollar.

You really think Forsberg is worth:
- Robertson
- Amirov
- 1st round pick
- 1st round pick
- Engvall
- Kerfoot

? There's one extreme and I guess there's another, this being it...
One of the worst trade takes I've heard in a while & it's from an insider...

Robertson doesn't get nearly enough credit given his play, stats & character; it's like him being drafted in the late 2nd round, his 5'9" stature, or knee injury neglects everything else. He'd be playing for the Leafs during their injuries if he weren't injured himself or the Leafs had more cap flexibility.

 

[Dreakmur]

Don't really like Alex Kerfoot but he's not nearly the albatross they were painting him to be.

Not really a centre. Not really a top-6 forward. Not really a PKer. Doesn’t bring much outside of his offence, which is little more than 10-15 goals and 35-40 points. He’s been really disappointing, since I thought he could continue what he did in last year’s playoffs, but obviously not.

What team would be looking to add that player for 3.5 million?

 

[Spirit of 67]

Yea...I wasn't expecting that. If that is in fact the situation, I'm surprised Dubas traded Lehtonen away.. unless he's got something bigger up his sleeve.

Whether or not Duby has something else up his sleeve has nothing to do with this deal.
This was about needing a goalie and doing right by Lehto.
Nothing more.

 

[Teeder Keon]

Whether or not Duby has something else up his sleeve has nothing to do with this deal.
This was about needing a goalie and doing right by Lehto.
Nothing more.

I hope he has a Doobie up his sleeve!

 

[justashadowof]

He better because if Marincin dresses for a playoff game and they lose, Dubas will be roasted.

I don't know what's happened to me, I'm defending Dubas again: It's probably as simple as making a personal promise to move Lehtonen if Lehtonen wasn't a regular starter. I'm not roasting Dubas for that. I'll roast him if the tactics Columbus used work again against the lineup Dubas has assembled this season.

 

[Warden of the North]

Futa is a bit of a dinosaur, but his opinions here seem pretty well inline. His opinion of our prospect is probably wrong though.

 

[ToneDog]

You really think Forsberg is worth:
- Robertson
- Amirov
- 1st round pick
- 1st round pick
- Engvall
- Kerfoot

? There's one extreme and I guess there's another, this being it...
One of the worst trade takes I've heard in a while & it's from an insider...

Robertson doesn't get nearly enough credit given his play, stats & character; it's like him being drafted in the late 2nd round, his 5'9" stature, or knee injury neglects everything else. He'd be playing for the Leafs during their injuries if he weren't injured himself or the Leafs had more cap flexibility.

Do not understand what you are asking by providing 6 assets. Substitute Nylander and ask yourself the same question because Forsberg is on the same level (+/- a little) depending on who you like more.

Look if Dubas thinks this team can win by adding a player and it costs him Robbie, he is going to do it. Look at Dallas trading Nieuwendyk for Iginla and winning the cup. Dubas just has to make sure he is not wrong.

 

[ToneDog]

I don't know what's happened to me, I'm defending Dubas again: It's probably as simple as making a personal promise to move Lehtonen if Lehtonen wasn't a regular starter. I'm not roasting Dubas for that. I'll roast him if the tactics Columbus used work again against the lineup Dubas has assembled this season.

Kudos for Dubas for doing Lehtonen a solid but he still has time to make sure Marincin never sees the day in a Maple Leaf jersey. It is if he stands pat and Marincin is next up that he will be criticised for.

 

[Teeder Keon]

Do not understand what you are asking by providing 6 assets. Substitute Nylander and ask yourself the same question because Forsberg is on the same level (+/- a little) depending on who you like more.

Look if Dubas thinks this team can win by adding a player and it costs him Robbie, he is going to do it. Look at Dallas trading Nieuwendyk for Iginla and winning the cup. Dubas just has to make sure he is not wrong.

 

[123offtheglass]

Do not understand what you are asking by providing 6 assets. Substitute Nylander and ask yourself the same question because Forsberg is on the same level (+/- a little) depending on who you like more.

Look if Dubas thinks this team can win by adding a player and it costs him Robbie, he is going to do it. Look at Dallas trading Nieuwendyk for Iginla and winning the cup. Dubas just has to make sure he is not wrong.

It's the proposal from the Mike Futa interview, are you saying Nylander substituted for Forsberg or Nylander substituted for that haul he mentioned that includes Robertson? The greatest thing of value here is by far that haul he mentioned which included those 6 assets. A Nylander for Forsberg trade has a 0% chance of happening so there's not much point in speculating it.

Edit: thing is it's not just Robbie that he mentioned it's Robbie + Amirov + 1st + 1st + Engvall + Kerfoot which is just ridiculous.

 

[ToneDog]

It's the proposal from the Mike Futa interview, are you saying Nylander substituted for Forsberg or Nylander substituted for that haul he mentioned that includes Robertson? The greatest thing of value here is by far that haul he mentioned which included those 6 assets. A Nylander for Forsberg trade has a 0% chance of happening so there's not much point in speculating it.

I do not recall Futa mentioning those 6 assets for Forsberg. If he did he is nuts. I thought he said Preds would not be interested in Kerfoot+ and that it would take Nylander to get it done.

I would do Robbie for Forsberg in a heartbeat but I doubt Preds do.

 

[123offtheglass]

I do not recall Futa mentioning those 6 assets for Forsberg. If he did he is nuts. I thought he said Preds would not be interested in Kerfoot+ and that it would take Nylander to get it done.

I would do Robbie for Forsberg in a heartbeat but I doubt Preds do.

Swear he did, it started a good take that just kept getting worse and worse. Happened sometime in the first 19 minutes I believe; there were 29 minutes left when I finally stopped listening.

He must be purposely trolling Leafs fans because nobody is dumb enough to come up with the proposal he did and think its reasonable.