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Or, more likely.....Acciari got a higher offer once Jarnkrok signed.
You try sooooo hard......
Confirmed with Link: Leafs have acquired Ryan O’Reilly, Noel Acciari & Josh Pillar in a three-team trade with STL and MIN
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You try sooooo hard......
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Interesting they’ve had their eye on him for awhile.
If it’s true at all, sure. But let’s also not act like Jarnkrok is not a really useful player at 2.1
ToneDog
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Who would you take? Acciari @ 1.25x1 or Jarnkrok @ 2.1x4 (you can add Kerfoot @ 3.5 and Engvall @ 2.25) and who do you prefer in the playoffs ?? It's another mistake like Simmonds @ 1.5 over Perry @ 750k. At least he fixed this one.
The bonus with getting Acciari is that it either woke up or inspired ZAR play more physicall. Now imagine a 4th line of ZAR-Acciari-Perry.
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It would be classic if we used the remaining cap space to regain a draft pick through absorbing salary as third party in a trade.
ToneDog
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Some think we can move Murray for positive assets but I am told elite teams ready to make a deep run don't do that . LOL.
I read this as well.
Odd that they opted Jarnkrok over Acciari but I’m glad we eventually got it right.
It is odd they would choose the player very similar to what we have in Kerfoot rather than sign a player that we don’t have anything similar to in Acciari but, well, you know…..
ToneDog
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Add that Jarnkrok did nothing last year for Calgary, is older and it took 4 years and $850K more along with a limited NMC and 1.35m bonuses. Mind boggling.
I read that tidbit the other day and agree. Should of been Acciari first if true.
I guess they feel Jarnkrok can play higher up in the lineup skill wise but again they had similar player in Kerfoot.
Anyway maybe Kerfoot goes now. We'll see in the next week. Seems doubtful but you never know.
It’s only a mistake if it happened, which there doesn’t seem to be any actual evidence of. But if true, then we agree it would be a mistake.
Signing Jarnkrok specifically doesn’t seem like a problem to me though, there are plenty of alternative ways to open up 1.2 million in cap space, which is why I lean that it’s probably not true. Signing Jarnkrok doesn’t stop them from adding a player making 4th line money.
If they were in on him and lost out, it’s seems much more likely he just chose to go St. Louis.
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The bolded is the likely occurrence. Acciari is a nice player in his role but he is what he is.
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I've been wondering what the price would be to move Murray in the summer. I guess a lot depends on if he comes back, stays healthy and/or takes over and runs with it.
But let's say worst case, he essentially doesn't play again. Trying to compare it to the Mrazek deal and now the Zaitsev deal.
Mrazek was $1M less but had one year extra of term. Not sure what teams would value more (or I guess less?) term vs. cap hit. The hope, and I'd at least think so, is that term is far more detrimental in this case.
Either way it likely won't be ideal, but hoping for the best it's fairly minimal.
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Before we build a statue for Acciari a quick stat check tells me he has 4G and 3A in 54 playoff games.
0G and 0A in 19 playoff games his previous 3 seasons.
Lets let the change of teams excitment die down a bit before evaluating him.
I see a similar player to Acciari in Bobby McMann and hope he gets another chance on the 4th line.
That being said I see a lot of Leo Komorav in Acciari, and we all loved Uncle Leo.
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Maple Leafs targeting Noel Acciari for months: ‘It’s better to be on their side’
Efforts to lure Noel Acciari north to inject rugged reliability into Toronto's fourth line stretch back to July. And now that he's here, the Leafs are glad "Cookie" is bringing some crunch. Luke Fox explains.
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if Dubie wanted him so badly i'm sure they could have gotten him to sign for a little less per yr if they gave him more term , a 2 or 3 yr deal would be much more attractive even if it was for a couple of hundred k less than hoping to keep getting offered 1 yr dealsMaple Leafs targeting Noel Acciari for months: ‘It’s better to be on their side’
Efforts to lure Noel Acciari north to inject rugged reliability into Toronto's fourth line stretch back to July. And now that he's here, the Leafs are glad "Cookie" is bringing some crunch. Luke Fox explains.www.sportsnet.ca
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DarkKnight
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Great bit with Brayden Schenn in what Acciari brings…
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Mirtle: Should the Maple Leafs re-sign Ryan O'Reilly? And what will it cost?
A decision on Ryan O'Reilly's future with the Maple Leafs will trickle down to the rest of the lineup and the many holes to fill.
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I surveyed a few agents this week, and they all explained that term would be a big part of any O’Reilly extension, given his age and tough season in St. Louis. But you’re likely looking at somewhere between three and five years, with the cap hit lower the longer you decide to go.
I also think O’Reilly might be willing to offer a little bit of a discount to either the Blues or Leafs, assuming his time in Toronto the rest of this season goes well. So perhaps that number shaves down a little bit.
But this isn’t going to be a Giordano/Spezza-like hometown discount.
Regardless, I think these numbers are in the right ballpark, based on comparables and talking to people around the league about what would make sense here, assuming this turns into a longer-term marriage.
If O’Reilly stays, what then?
If O’Reilly signs for around $4.5 million or so, it would leave the Leafs with roughly $9 million in cap space and potentially (likely?) out on bringing back Bunting. It would leave a roster badly in need of another winger for Auston Matthews and replacements for Kerfoot, Engvall, Kampf, etc., down the lineup.
This is where things devolve into even murkier hypotheticals that we can’t really answer at the moment. Because if the Leafs lose in the first round, the front office may well be deconstructed. With a new GM in place, the first order of business would be deciding how to handle the fact both Matthews and William Nylander will be entering the final year of their contracts.
If they’re not going to be extended, there’s a world where moving a major piece or two out becomes a very real probability. This makes all the above cap gymnastics kind of irrelevant.
This is frankly a likely scenario if this group doesn’t have playoff success, and there’s new management in place.
If we set aside the mass upheaval timeline, however, keeping O’Reilly makes a lot of sense, especially at that number. For one, it allows Tavares to settle in on the wing, which extends his effectiveness through the end of his contract.
The Leafs’ contention window is also such that any age-related decline from O’Reilly towards the end of a contract like this shouldn’t be the guiding concern.
To keep O’Reilly, however, the Leafs would have to get creative in filling out their roster. Heck, they’re going to have to be creative no matter what this summer.
Moving on from Bunting would mean they would have to go bargain-hunting for another top-six forward. They would also have to think long and hard about if they felt their blue line, as constructed, is good enough, and whether they wanted to go into another season with Samsonov and Murray as the goalie tandem. Especially with how many games Murray has missed due to injury the past two years.
Without many high-end prospects coming, save for perhaps Matthew Knies, restocking the forward group on the cheap is also going to be a challenge.
All that said, there’s a path here that makes a lot of sense to make the O’Reilly trade a longer-term arrangement than a deadline rental.
Especially so if these promising early returns last deep into the spring.
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"I've heard from a random person that the Earth is flat! scientists don't have a clue!" The same energy...
ToneDog
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I heard it from a lousy insider who probably wanted to stir the shit. Others have also posted they heard the same. You must have heard from a certain poster on this board. He is very convincing but nobody else is buying it.
