Post-Game Talk: Leafs Ground Jets 5-3

[egd27]

Decent win, nice to breakout of the slump.. but let's be honest, this last stretch of games is almost meaningless until the playoffs.

Yes and no......seeding may play a factor somewhere down the road.

 

[saltming]

Can't see your reply

 

[Confucius]

Must win and we pulled it off.

Glad to see.

Have we set the record, for having the most must wins in a season?

 

[saltming]

Yeah, I would even take a triple overtime in the 4-3 win...

I might need cpr

 

[egd27]

At this point it is based off the 5th and sixth place teams and games in hand.

I'd say 2-3 more wins and we are in.

One point and they clinch. (or any Van loss)

 

[DarkKnight]

Going to be ironic for some of the Andy haters to have to cheer for him in the playoffs knowing he is the key to success. Hopefully Andy will serve them a nice helping of crow and they will enjoy chewing on it with a nice cold one.

There is something poetic about being done in many people's minds, then coming back and finding his form, leading us to a long run. I never understood dancing on his grave, it was always a reality we may still need him, anointing Jack based on not much was pure folly. Let's just hope someone takes the ball here, I almost don't care anymore, but Andersen is still the best bet.

 

[Teeder Keon]

There is something poetic about being done in many people's minds, then coming back and finding his form, leading us to a long run. I never understood dancing on his grave, it was always understood we may still need him, anointing Jack based on not much was pure folly. Let's just hope someone takes the ball here, I almost don't care anymore, but Andersen is still the best bet.

I totally agree Brotha

 

[JT AM da real deal]

Way to go Soupy baby!!!!!!! Luv it baby!!!!!!! Beat Jets in their barn. That breakaway save to clinch it in 3rd was so amazing.... showed that d*ck he sucks ... but more importantly showed everyone who was da man !!!!!! Can't wait to start playoffs with you running da show ..

Big shout outs to Gally and Wayner wow boys this is how we do it baby ... no one pushes us around NO ONE ... guys start to play bigger when there are reinforcements on da bench .. Wayner it was time to show who is da boss of that ice .. what a BS penalty da ref must have got scared pants when he heard ur words ... da look on Dubois face when u told him if he tried it again u would take ur stick and shove it down his throat and mix up his balls ... man he went white like a ghost .. but in new NHL u get a 2 minute penalty for uttering threats i guess .. to me worth da 2 .. he won't try again he is neutered now

And Gally baby dude keep playing like that man .. driving big Lowry in da head and knocking him out luv it baby .. don't worry if he comes back at you Foligno will drop him again ... keep it up man to me this is how you keep a spot on da playoff roster .. da Jets now now any of us can drop them

This how you win 4 lines all contributing ... Jets thought they take us up front ... well guess what Jet fans WRONG ... we got 4 lines who are gonna kick ur *ss in in muscle dept and on score board

Now a little rant ... d8mn u Holl and Muzzy ... tell Keefer u r burnt out and need a week off ... cause truth is u 2 clowns r killing us past month and it is u 2 doing all da screw ups .. every time u 2 get on da ice it is a sh*t show ..

all u idiots out there blasting me when I told u we need to protect Dermy should all learn a lesson .. sure he is young and he makes some mistakes but past 5 games he has been OUR BEST DEFENDER BAR NONE .. Holl is at best a 6/7 defender on a decent team and he will never go much beyond that EVER ... Dermy will be a top 4 defender in league for many many years

Luv da effort and skill from Sandin ... all he needs to do now is improve his foot speed and he is an NHL defender ... his lack of foot speed is very evident again last night as he was outraced by everyone coming back in his own end ... he will likely come out of lineup in playoffs for that very reason ... and you should all see da issue ... it is very clear and obvious .. come on Barb time to work your magic

Can't blame Rielly for that bone headed pass from Brodie man ... common man no one expects a backwards pass to last man back who has 2 Jets all over him ... stupid stupid stupid .. but 1 bad play from brodie is not a game and he was solid all other times

Get Lily in there Keefer and take out Holl ... and while you are at it bring in Hutton for Muzzy .. do da right thing .. we need to get these guys some game time and it is a lesson even da vets need to learn .. team will understand .. everyone can see it very clearly ... do da right thing

 

[Confucius]

One point and they clinch. (or any Van loss)

How is that? Vancouver can win out and if we win once, Vancouver would have 71 points and we will have 65.

 

[egd27]

That was on Brodie, IMO.

You are correct, Reilly was not moving at the time of the pass (which was just out of his reach)

 

[egd27]

How is that? Vancouver can win out and if we win once, Vancouver would have 71 points and we will have 65.

Sorry you're correct.....my formula had Van at a .750 winning % as a best case for them

 

[Confucius]

There is something poetic about being done in many people's minds, then coming back and finding his form, leading us to a long run. I never understood dancing on his grave, it was always a reality we may still need him, anointing Jack based on not much was pure folly. Let's just hope someone takes the ball here, I almost don't care anymore, but Andersen is still the best bet.

Campbell season save percentage .919, career .917. Not Vezina numbers but pretty good. We arent going to get anyone better than that for a few years. If he plays to his avg. great if he ups his game a tad fantastic.

 

[Havoc]

The

passes in to the middle have to stop. Just dump a puck first. They are all starting to do it now. I Wonder about their thinking when the pull that noise.

Agreed. Brodie shouldn't have done it and rielly shouldn't be calling for passes like that when Engvall is standing right there.

Engvall also needs to be more vocal so Brodie knows to send the puck to him. Just standing there like "oh crap please don't give it to me I forgot how to play".

 

[JT AM da real deal]

Dubois was scared sh*tless ... he went white luv it ... ref gave him a penalty for uttering threats .. it is new NHL .. u can't threatened someone anymore like in old days .. back in my day I would have taken his head and rammed it hard multiple times into da boards .. then let him stand up and beat da cr*p out of him .. and refs would have said to Dubois stupid move son .. don't do that again ... but game has changed

 

[Wafflewhipper]

To me Brooks has seemed more engaged than Engvall and it's not even close.

I don't know much about the gap between the 2, but Brooks fit a lot better. He just didnt feel like he had the green light to shoot the puck and I hope he works on that confidence more. He was in prime shooting areas and made plays to get himself open and set up linemates but decided to pass the puck instead of shooting. If he cleans that up he might be a pleasant surprise.

Brooks is no surprise if he was being watched coming and how he plays. It’s not a surprise to some.

 

[Confucius]

Sorry you're correct.....my formula had Van at a .750 winning % as a best case for them

There may be some impossibilities in there that I didn't look into. Such as if Vancouver plays the Habs someone is going to get only one point at most, so both teams can't win out. But it's all too time consuming for me to figure out. lol!

 

[VanW27]

On one play we had 3 Leafs on the boards vs 2 Jets, Copp who was along the boards beat all 3 of our guys to the net, that should never ever happen to a team of pro's. That is little league 101.

Muzz was in no mans land never really challenged the puck after he lost the puck, our guys in front of the net , 2 of them never took Schiffle, one of those guys should have tied up his stick

That's weird way to interpret those plays to me. When you have the puck with control your goal is to get open for an outlet, not glue yourself to an opponent to make sure they are covered. That's what makes turnovers so dangerous.

They could have done a better job in coverage on the first goal (Holl and Taveras) for sure, but its a tough play for Holl in particular with Schiefle arriving late and him protecting the front of the net. He goes for the pass intercept and doesn't get all of it and Schiefle just takes a quick whack at the loose puck.

On the Copp goal, Copp is Brodies man, Brodie has the puck when the play starts to go bad (his poor pass), there's no possible way for Brodie to get to the net ahead of Copp.

Either way, on both goals with better puck management by Muzzin and Brodie/Rielly neither puck ends up in the back of the net.

 

[ToneDog]

Campbell season save percentage .919, career .917. Not Vezina numbers but pretty good. We arent going to get anyone better than that for a few years. If he plays to his avg. great if he ups his game a tad fantastic.

IIRC Andy had a higher SV% in last year's playoffs. No matter how good our goalie's perform if you can't score, you are not going to win.

 

[BertCorbeau]

I still want to see Marner and Matthews' clean it up in their own zone a bit more. Earlier in the year they were a 'comfort' line in that when they were on, they controlled play and not only produced offense but also shut other teams' down.

In recent weeks they've been more leaky defensively despite the offensive production. Be more protective of the puck and make smarter decisions.

 

[Guided by Veseys]

If you watch the replay Rielly actually starts skating up and calls for Brodie to pass to him. It wasn't an excellent pass from Brodie but imo Rielly (and most NHLers) still should have been able to receive it.

I agree with that. It was a bad pass but it wasn’t whipped and Rielly was expecting it and did not look sharp on that play. You kinda expect just a bit better. Too bad Brodie’s pass sucked tho.

 

[VanW27]

Blaming rielly for that in any way shape or form is silly.

Muzzin and Brodie both made brutal unforced errors leading directly to the goals. The guys left hung out to dry don't deserve any blame.

It happens.

Like I said, Brodie put him in a tough spot, and to be fair to him he probably completely expects himself to make that pickup because most times he probably does. That said for me there is a lack of awareness on that play, even if he picks it up with him having to stretch out to receive it and Appleton coming at him fast he probably isn't in any position to make a play. The safe play is to know you're in a dangerous spot and just deflect the puck away and regroup.

 

[zeke]

Like I said, Brodie put him in a tough spot, and to be fair to him he probably completely expects himself to make that pickup because most times he probably does. That said for me there is a lack of awareness on that play, even if he picks it up with him having to stretch out to receive it and Appleton coming at him fast he probably isn't in any position to make a play. The safe play is to know you're in a dangerous spot and just deflect the puck away and regroup.

not appreciating how bad that pass was likely goes hand in hand with not understanding what makes Rielly's puck moving so valuable.

 

[BertCorbeau]

Like I said, Brodie put him in a tough spot, and to be fair to him he probably completely expects himself to make that pickup because most times he probably does. That said for me there is a lack of awareness on that play, even if he picks it up with him having to stretch out to receive it and Appleton coming at him fast he probably isn't in any position to make a play. The safe play is to know you're in a dangerous spot and just deflect the puck away and regroup.

Appleton was coming off the bench, typically guys that do that are lost in coverage and go unnoticed.

That being said, Rielly if the pass was accurate, Rielly would have had enough time to make a play to get it out.

Just glad it wasn't a mistake that sunk the team. Got the lead back shortly after.

 

[VanW27]

Appleton was coming off the bench, typically guys that do that are lost in coverage and go unnoticed.

That being said, Rielly if the pass was accurate, Rielly would have had enough time to make a play to get it out.

Just glad it wasn't a mistake that sunk the team. Got the lead back shortly after.

For sure, good pass and it's a non issue.

 

[AvroArrow]

IIRC Andy had a higher SV% in last year's playoffs. No matter how good our goalie's perform if you can't score, you are not going to win.

It's not just the save percentage, it's the quality of saves. Hypothetically 2 goalies, 1 faces 50 shots from center ice and lets in 3. The other faces 25 breakaways and lets in 3. Technically the 50 shot goalie has a better save percentage, but considering quality of shots you wouldn't call his performance "better" or "good"

Freddy was letting in muffins routinely, especially in game 5, meanwhile Korpisalo went full Hasek on us. Of course we need to score, but we need reliable goaltending and even need the goalie to bail us out a few times when the D breaks down. We never had that.