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Dont think we move theo as an add on to stoner and leispic doesnt excite me enough to make it worth
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Kapanen, Corrado
For
Stoner, Theodore
?
If that's the max deal, then I think Toronto needs to add something like Rychel or Leipsic.
Just my opinion.
For
Stoner, Theodore
?
If that's the max deal, then I think Toronto needs to add something like Rychel or Leipsic.
Just my opinion.
go4hockey
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Ana would not move Theo as an add to a dump and if they did you would be getting Bieksa. Even then Ana would not do it.
Rainman2408
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They would want kapenan and leafs would be adding in my opinion. I'm a leafs fan but Theodore has more value. I guess Kap and cap dump is close. Not sure either team does it. Leafs don't really need another offensive LHD. Need a steady eddy RHD. Don't think any are available that match our criteria of age and potential.
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No he isn't a 100% cap dump. Also we are not trading Theodore who is exempt from expansion draft.
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MR4
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I wouldn't deal Kap for Theo straight up, Babcock likes the LH=LD / RH=RD rule, and our top 9 will be focused on these 5 in the future:
X-Matthews-Marner
X-Nylander-Kapanen
X-Kadri-X
Yeah they give away Theodore for a guy who is leading the AHL in points... but he's one year older than Theodore. Must be a bust
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http://theahl.com/player-stats
Hint: Leipsic will be in 1st
https://www.google.ca/search?q=leip...fe_rd=cr&ei=6W0-WMCAKeiM8QeGxJuwAw&gws_rd=ssl
Hint: Leipsic is 22
https://www.google.ca/search?q=leip...WMCAKeiM8QeGxJuwAw&gws_rd=ssl#q=shea+theodore
Hint: Theodore is 21
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Theodore a defenseman has more NHL games played and more points then Leipsic who is a forward who is older.Trading Theodore like that isn't good for the Ducks not even with Stoner who is a solid bottom pair defenseman (just over payed) being traded away as well. Leipsic producing well in the AHL is nice and all but so have a number of other forwards who haven't been able to have much of a NHL career he could be such a player we will have to wait and see.
Pre-injury, Stoner was playing as a very solid 3rd-pairing D. He is exactly the king of depth D a team like Anaheim will go out and seek at the TDL; since we already have him, pretty sure they have no reason to move him and then pay more later to get a similar player before the playoffs.
Rainman2408
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I wouldn't say giving away. Either prospect offered actually has decent value and rising. I watch a lot of marlie games and most live. I assure you both will be regular nhlers. I'm actually surprised Sosh got called up before Kap but Babs has a man crush and his determination. Sosh has played very well but Kap is the better player. Leipsic is a boom or bust type but his current rate of production has most thinking boom. In any event both hold significant value as prospects despite what is thought on HF boards. That combined with the cap space it's actually far from giving them away. (See crousse trade)
That said... I don't make the trade if I'm the ducks either. Not the the value is there just that personally I believe that good depth at D is harder to accomplish then forwards and I would hold on to as many as I can for as long as I can before being forced to give one up. Albeit that time will be coming soon for the ducks. Keep them all for the cup run incase 1 or 2 go down. A near ready NHL forward can fill a hole and stop gap an injury without noticing really. Can't say the same when it's a dman.
So ya... value more then fair IMO but not a smart move for the ducks until their hand is forced
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Yea that is a good point the only possible thing to say against it is Stoner would still have 1 more season left however that isn't enough for us to trade Theodore away.
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people have no clue, $ aside, stoner is a very affective #5-6 dman, with very good intangibles. He has been missed since his injury.
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Toronto overrates their prospects like crazy and underrated other teams prospects. Theodore has top pairing potential bruh
In the offseason we all wanted to get rid of Stoner because our situation was a mess and he was the most obvious of our tough defensemen to move with Despres injuries and Bieksa NMC and Manson on a solid contract. Now the cap situation is mostly resolved and Stoner is being his old self which is being a very solid 3d pair defenseman for us. He has some small injuries this year and he still is overpaid but to call him 100% cap dump is a showing greatly your lack of understanding about the Ducks situation.
Ducks are still very high on Theodore as well
Ducks are still very high on Theodore as well
Every team does it (some less, some more) and it is wrong to call out all fan base when many TOR fans admitting here it is a crazy proposal
Vipers31
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The old rule of "if a proposal includes exactly one team's line-up after the trade, it's a bad proposal" works another time.
This wasn't interesting to the Ducks back when everyone was positive they'd actually need to make a trade to fit Lindholm back in, and it certainly isn't now. The need to dump a guy that's actually a decent contributor just isn't that bad.
This wasn't interesting to the Ducks back when everyone was positive they'd actually need to make a trade to fit Lindholm back in, and it certainly isn't now. The need to dump a guy that's actually a decent contributor just isn't that bad.
The OP seems to be offering good prospect for slightly better prospect, certainly nothing out to lunch. Certainly not your top d prospect either, bruh.
For the ducks fans who want a discussion and not just ******** on each other, would you be more inclined if it was Bieksa instead of Stoner? Saw some comments that Stoner is liked, just a little over paid. Would getting out from under a NT/NMC (whichever he has) pre-expansion draft be worth this move?
When there were trade rumours around Andersen and/or Vatanen going to Toronto in the summer, Duvks fans were quick to note that Stoner or Bieksa needed to go back as a cap dump.
So forgive us if we haven't found out that apparently he turned into a reliable 3rd pairing D that you're not willing to give up.
So forgive us if we haven't found out that apparently he turned into a reliable 3rd pairing D that you're not willing to give up.
