Post-Game Talk: Leafs Book Their Tickets for Game 7 [MOD WARNING in OP]

[likecheese]

Don’t bring Sir Elton into this mess…

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[killer1980]

I am Charlie Brown and The Leafs are Lucy. It seems to be hurting more as time goes on.

 

[NVious]

Still no accountability last night during players media availability post game. "Ottawa is a good team, 4th win is the hardest, we're still in a good position" but nobody said they weren't good enough. Nobody took ownership.

 

[NVious]

If claim to fame this series is one F/O win, it says a lot about how useless the rest of the time has been.

They won their cups already:

Auston scored 69 (nice)
Mitch hit 100 points
Willie got paid 8 figures
JT got a massive contract from his childhood team

 

[BullyHockey]

I feel for leaf fans. Being 1-13 in close out games is just unacceptable for any franchise let alone a team with this much superstar power.

 

[Gabriel426]

We shouldn’t be making excuses for Bobby freaking McMann. You don’t see a number of Senators playoff newbies shitting his pants in his first playoffs. Win or lose they’re still doing a job. For McMann, you either do a job or you don’t. Guys at his level don’t always get the benefit of the second playoffs run.

True but McMann is not someone the Leafs should be counting on to lead them in any playoffs series.

 

[MSZ]

I've heard he lives in NY state. Does any other president of a NHL team not live in the city of the team he's president of?

Burke lived in Toronto when he was the president of the Flames.

 

[HolyCrap]

JT’s been good, but it would have to be such a team friendly deal for me to welcome him back, he’s not yhe problem, but he’s also not the solution either……

Yup. I was just commenting he’s been fine this playoffs. I wouldn’t resign him unless it’s an a no brainer good discount.

 

[PROUD PAPA]

I feel for leaf fans. Being 1-13 in close out games is just unacceptable for any franchise let alone a team with this much superstar power.

No reason to feel bad for Leafs fans. We can all take an open minded look at the team and continue to support them or not.

 

[Racer88]

Again, please tell me the difference between scoring a goal, and making a pass to someone else that scores a goal. They registered a point on a goal scored no? They were apart of the goal scored.. or am I incorrect?

We are taking as if the top guys are going 0G and 0A apart from the 1 game this series..

Scoring goals are harder than getting an assist. Assist guys are cheaper and easier to find and goal scorers are hard to find hence they are paid more. They need to get off their asses and score some goals

 

[Pete2000]

 

[BallardEra]

Expected Goals/60 at 5 on 5:

 

[Jojalu]

Just finish this job tomorrow.

Give me 5 days to reset, get my hopes back up and get prepared to be crushed at a later date.

 

[Jojalu]

Expected Goals/60 at 5 on 5:

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It just keeps getting worse

 

[notbias]

That's neat, Aho has also won nothing...

 

[TheGreenTBer]

I just pooped a little

 

[Gallagbi]

Nylander feels the most surprising there

 

[slozo]

I disagree, we had very little good chances. Just shooting the puck on the net. And it’s been like that every year. Poor chances masquerading themselves like us “playing better than the other team and getting goalied”.

Aside from that, It’s not a matter of making the second round. I’m sure even these core losers can fluke out an elimination game against Ottawa in 4 tries.

These games are a sign of what’s to come in future series and that’s what everyone is worried about. People have zero confidence in this team. 1-14 elimination games is perhaps the most pathetic record in all of sports. Can anyone name a single team that has done worse? Marners 0 goals and 4 points or whatever is horrible and Matthews isn’t much better.

Fans are allowed to be upset even if they win this series. Only the leafs can make their fans hate having a 3-0 lead in a series. 4-0 shutout at home after fans being excited? Pathetic.

We'll agree to disagree then on the overall chances for the Leafs that game. No, they weren't "just shooting the puck on net", look at the shot metrics and that easily disproves that notion.

And we did get goalied to some extent last game; although I place most of the blame on finishing.

People had lots of confidence in this team 2 games ago . . . they are still the same team, on the other side of a couple of close games that didn't go our way.

Most people who predicted a Leafs victory said in 6 or 7 . . . and that's where we are, just took a different path to get there.

 

[authentic]

Nylander feels the most surprising ther

Also Tavares is more clutch than he gets credit for

 

[Donnie740]

Expected Goals/60 at 5 on 5:

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What a useless stat - - the Avalanche are on the verge of elimination and the Devils have already been eliminated.

 

[ClarkSittler]

They also have 0 wins in the 3rd round if I am not mistaken.

It doesn't sound like they are serious once they hit the 3rd round.

So they are only serious for the first two rounds and then when the third rolls around they just say oh well let's not be serious anymore. Fascinating.

The odds are not predicting who will win.

Is that why it says "Stanley Cup Prediction odds". What are they predicting exactly?

So you are saying that people are wrong, ok, thanks for helping my argument.

No I'm saying you are wrong.

No one mentioned Toronto, but sure, they do, but it doesn't make them contenders.

You were the one crying in another thread saying "everyone here" wanted to get rid of the core. I guess your beloved core is worse than Carolina's the

They try to make the most money, not predict the winner.

Wrong again. They make minor adjustments to the line later to make the most money. The initial line establishes the winer (Favorite).

Betting lines for a casino are typically set by oddsmakers or linemakers, who are highly skilled professionals employed by sportsbooks (the part of a casino that handles sports betting). Here’s how it works:

Key Roles in Setting Betting Lines:​

1. Oddsmakers (Linemakers):
   
   • These are experts who analyze a wide range of data — team/player performance, injuries, historical trends, betting trends, and more.
   • They set the opening line, which is the initial point spread, moneyline, or total for a game or event.
2. Sportsbooks (Casino Betting Departments):
   
   • After the opening line is set (often by a centralized group or a third-party oddsmaking service), individual sportsbooks may adjust it based on their own risk management strategies or to balance betting action.
   • For example, if too much money is coming in on one side, the sportsbook may shift the line to encourage betting on the other side.
3. Third-Party Oddsmaking Services:
   
   • Many casinos and sportsbooks, especially smaller or regional ones, outsource their opening lines to specialized companies (like Don Best or Kambi).

Important Note:​

While casinos operate the sportsbooks, they don’t set the lines randomly or based on gut feeling. It's a careful balance of math, market behavior, and expertise to ensure profit while managing risk.

 

[ClarkSittler]

The reason they are the odds-on favourite is pretty obvious - they are the only team to be a sure thing to play in the second round.

Not really.

They were the 2nd favorite before the season even started:

NHL Futures: Stanley Cup Odds For 2025

See the latest NHL Futures & Stanley Cup Odds for 2024-25 season along with more NHL Betting Resources at VegasInsider.

www.vegasinsider.com

Opening Odds To Win 2025 NHL Stanley Cup Final​

The Florida Panthers won their first Stanley Cup in 2024 and are listed as a +900 betting choice (Bet $100 to win $900) to repeat as champions for the 2024-25 NHL season.

• Edmonton Oilers: +600
• Carolina Hurricanes: +650
• Florida Panthers: +850
• Dallas Stars: +900
• Toronto Maple Leafs: +1100
• New Jersey Devils: +1200
• Washington Capitals: +1200
• Vegas Golden Knights: +1200
• Colorado Avalanche: +1300
• Winnipeg Jets: +1300
• Los Angeles Kings: +1800
• Tampa Bay Lightning: +1800
• Minnesota Wild: +2500
• New York Rangers: +3500
• Ottawa Senators: +4000
• Boston Bruins: +5000
• Vancouver Canucks: +6000
• New York Islanders: +10000
• Calgary Flames: +15000
• Detroit Red Wings: +15000
• Nashville Predators: +15000
• Columbus Blue Jackets: +15000
• Utah Hockey Club: +20000
• St. Louis Blues: +25000
• Montreal Canadiens: +25000
• Philadelphia Flyers: +25000
• Pittsburgh Penguins: +40000
• Buffalo Sabres: +40000
• Seattle Kraken: +50000
• Chicago Blackhawks: +50000
• Anaheim Ducks: +100000
• San Jose Sharks: +100000

 

[seventieslord]

Not really.

They were the 2nd favorite before the season even started:

NHL Futures: Stanley Cup Odds For 2025

See the latest NHL Futures & Stanley Cup Odds for 2024-25 season along with more NHL Betting Resources at VegasInsider.

www.vegasinsider.com

Opening Odds To Win 2025 NHL Stanley Cup Final​

The Florida Panthers won their first Stanley Cup in 2024 and are listed as a +900 betting choice (Bet $100 to win $900) to repeat as champions for the 2024-25 NHL season.

• Edmonton Oilers: +600
• Carolina Hurricanes: +650
• Florida Panthers: +850
• Dallas Stars: +900
• Toronto Maple Leafs: +1100
• New Jersey Devils: +1200
• Washington Capitals: +1200
• Vegas Golden Knights: +1200
• Colorado Avalanche: +1300
• Winnipeg Jets: +1300
• Los Angeles Kings: +1800
• Tampa Bay Lightning: +1800
• Minnesota Wild: +2500
• New York Rangers: +3500
• Ottawa Senators: +4000
• Boston Bruins: +5000
• Vancouver Canucks: +6000
• New York Islanders: +10000
• Calgary Flames: +15000
• Detroit Red Wings: +15000
• Nashville Predators: +15000
• Columbus Blue Jackets: +15000
• Utah Hockey Club: +20000
• St. Louis Blues: +25000
• Montreal Canadiens: +25000
• Philadelphia Flyers: +25000
• Pittsburgh Penguins: +40000
• Buffalo Sabres: +40000
• Seattle Kraken: +50000
• Chicago Blackhawks: +50000
• Anaheim Ducks: +100000
• San Jose Sharks: +100000

Okay but that's preseason. Having seen how the regular season played out, they were probably somewhere in the third to eighth spot. If you saw them at the top of the list for a brief moment it's only because their series was the only one that ended. Take a look at the odds once two more series end tonight.

 

[Commander Clueless]

That's neat, Aho has also won nothing...

Yep.


....and we're that far below nothing.....

 

[TorMapleJays]

Leafs have actually never won a 3rd round.

Ever.

My son told me that one.