Confirmed with Link: Leafs acquire Emil Andrae, Samuel Ersson, 2026 3rd for Joseph Woll, Simon Benoit

[BobClarkesfrontteeth]

Pretty much. Philly fan who lives in Toronto so I watch a lot of Philly's games and Toronto's games.

Woll fits very well as a back up even with his injury issues. It's Vladar's net now. Benoit will probably see 40 games all at home so Philly fans can cheer his superman punch every once in a while. Also Tochett loves these type of players. So this trade works for Philly right now but not sure how it looks in 3 years.

For Toronto you will be very surprised I think with Andrae. He was probably Philly's 3rd best defenceman when they dressed him. For me better than York, but at 5'9" Tochett was never going to except him. He probably ends up being the best player in this trade. As for Ersson if I am Toronto I would not give up on him too quickly. His first year for 3/4 of the season he was a stone cold number one goalie. But they rode him into the ground starting too many games and he has not been the same since. After the Olympic break he looked like he found his game again. If I am Toronto Management I try to get him to except a 3 year deal at 1.2 million so you can stash him on the Marlies to start the season. If he has gained his form back then you basically have a Woll type goalie back again. He is also only 26 which is young for a goalie.

 

[Malachi Crunch]

I wonder if we should keep Ersson. Briere talked about him yesterday. He said he started off the year in a bad way, but played good for them down the stretch. He said that he is a fierce competitor. Looks like some of his stats in Sweden were good, but he's sucked over here to date. I don't know. We have a lot of capspace. Maybe keeping him around as a #4 isn't the worst thing? Although one can argue that there's other #3s and #4s waiting around to be signed who are better (e.g., Georgiev).

 

[SprDaVE]

I wonder if we should keep Ersson. Briere talked about him yesterday. He said he started off the year in a bad way, but played good for them down the stretch. He said that he is a fierce competitor. Looks like some of his stats in Sweden were good, but he's sucked over here to date. I don't know. We have a lot of capspace. Maybe keeping him around as a #4 isn't the worst thing? Although one can argue that there's other #3s and #4s waiting around to be signed who are better (e.g., Georgiev).

If he's ok with working with the Marlies for most of the season, then the Leafs should get that done. He'd be a fine depth option. But if he's not then obviously you don't bother and let him go back to Europe.

 

[LeafsOHLRangers98]

I wonder if we should keep Ersson. Briere talked about him yesterday. He said he started off the year in a bad way, but played good for them down the stretch. He said that he is a fierce competitor. Looks like some of his stats in Sweden were good, but he's sucked over here to date. I don't know. We have a lot of capspace. Maybe keeping him around as a #4 isn't the worst thing? Although one can argue that there's other #3s and #4s waiting around to be signed who are better (e.g., Georgiev).

He had a 5 start stretch late in the year where he went 5-0 with a .933 SV%.

The rest of the season he was 9-11-5 with an 857 SV%.

I'm going to go with the larger sample size which is horrendous.

 

[TMLBlueandWhite]

Assuming Chayka doesn't foolishly spend the cap space saved this is as good as you could expect from trading Woll.

He was a likeable player. Judging by some of these reactions you could go so far as to say he was a fan favourite. At one point I wanted him to be the starter playing fifty games a year.

It's unfortunate it didn't work out that way.

Losing Woll sucks. But it doesn't diminish the fact the team still has great depth at that position. When Woll came up and seeing what he could do it was exciting for the fans to have an in house drafted and developed goalie as starter.

Now we get to look forward to seeing that happen again with TWO goalies.

Hildeby and Hawktuahmov are ready to conquer the NHL and Chayka has already indicated he'll be putting his trust in them. I'm more than happy to see Woll have the opportunity to re-assert his dominance with another team lacking depth at the goaltendung position. The return was fair and the cap space can be better utilized bringing in a top pair defenseman.

A win-win situation for player and team.

 

[ToDavid]

Interesting tool. I think this is probably putting a bit too much weight on Woll's most recent season given that it describes their "similar recent performance". I would say he's more than a modest upgrade on Ersson.

I would put it about even.

 

[Divine]

Interesting tool. I think this is probably putting a bit too much weight on Woll's most recent season given that it describes their "similar recent performance". I would say he's more than a modest upgrade on Ersson.

I would put it about even.

Woll had similar numbers to Skinner when he was traded, who had negative value.

Woll had a career .002 save percentage higher than Skinner. Woll had a .007 save percentage higher than Skinner last season when he was traded.

Skinner had a lower cap hit, more durable, twice the GP, 2 Cup runs and less term.

Woll is making nearly 4M as an often injured goalie coming off a bad season.

 

[Tak7]

I don't think so. Andrae is still young and can improve, good to have competition.

It's all about making room for our young goalies and the plus is we get a pick, get younger and get cap relief. l love it.

If we make 10 trades and Chayka brings us always a little plus we have a big PLUS and that counts ...
I wonder where we are after 100 trades ...
Good Times

Sounds so similar to the way people talked about Treliving early lol.

Oh god

 

[seanlinden]

Assuming Chayka doesn't foolishly spend the cap space saved this is as good as you could expect from trading Woll.

He was a likeable player. Judging by some of these reactions you could go so far as to say he was a fan favourite. At one point I wanted him to be the starter playing fifty games a year.

It's unfortunate it didn't work out that way.

Losing Woll sucks. But it doesn't diminish the fact the team still has great depth at that position. When Woll came up and seeing what he could do it was exciting for the fans to have an in house drafted and developed goalie as starter.

Now we get to look forward to seeing that happen again with TWO goalies.

Hildeby and Hawktuahmov are ready to conquer the NHL and Chayka has already indicated he'll be putting his trust in them. I'm more than happy to see Woll have the opportunity to re-assert his dominance with another team lacking depth at the goaltendung position. The return was fair and the cap space can be better utilized bringing in a top pair defenseman.

A win-win situation for player and team.

I think the challenge with this trade is that the focus is on "Trading Woll"; versus what you're actually trying to achieve.

The Leafs did not actually need to trade Woll. While yes, it was an area of surplus, an area they could afford to trade from, they could have also waited till the start of the season, see if they have 3 healthy goalies, maybe start the year with 3, and wait for somebody to lose a goalie to injury.

The Leafs have a shopping list for this summer that is not insignifcant. They absolutely need another centre. They need a top 6 winger, and they need to rebuild their blueline with at least 1 top 4 defenceman.

While yes, Andrae is a defenceman, I don't get the sense that he's a top 4 guy. The focus needed to be on getting somebody that can be a competent top 4 guy.

 

[HamiltonNHL]

Trade the best goalie on the team for a nobody. f***ing dipshit

I don’t think Woll liked playing here.

The Leafs did not actually need to trade Woll.

He didn’t seem to want to play for the Leafs last year.

A change of scene could be good for him.

 

[SprDaVE]

Sounds so similar to the way people talked about Treliving early lol.

Oh god

No way, Treliving didn't do any trades early. So that's impossible.

 

[leafs in five]

yeah whatever else a flurry of transactions coming from sort of nowhere is absolutely nothing like Treliving. for better or worse

 

[seanlinden]

I don’t think Woll liked playing here.


He didn’t seem to want to play for the Leafs last year.

A change of scene could be good for him.

Regardless of whether a goalie wants to be here or not, or whether he'd benefit from a change of scenery - doesn't mean you have to trade him.

Woll would be a high quality option as a 1B for close to half of the teams in the Eastern Conference; I didn't look team-by-team in the west. Use him as part of a package to get a top 4 D, 2/3 C, top 6 winger, etc.

 

[HamiltonNHL]

Regardless of whether a goalie wants to be here or not, or whether he'd benefit from a change of scenery - doesn't mean you have to trade him.

Woll would be a high quality option as a 1B for close to half of the teams in the Eastern Conference; I didn't look team-by-team in the west. Use him as part of a package to get a top 4 D, 2/3 C, top 6 winger, etc.

I agree with this.

I think something behind the scenes happened

 

[Mess]

Any reasoning behind your opinion?

Why do you think Toronto lost that trade?

Perhaps this is step #1 setting up a much bigger move, or at least I hope so.

Both Leaf players were under contract

While both Flyers are currently RFAs

So that frees up $5 mil in cap space for the Leafs.

Also the 3rd round pick in next weeks draft might be earmarked for a player the Leafs scouts really like.

So maybe Leafs management in playing 3D Chess making an early sacrifice to reset the board a little setting up a more beneficial move still to come.

 

[Gallagbi]

Similar recent performance and "modest upgrade" feels crazy misleading here when talking about the goalies.

Woll has 1 season under a .900 save% and Ersson has none above it. Woll's down year has him closer to the highest save% in the league than he was to Ersson.

The "futures" in this deal are a 3rd rounder, a 6th and a goalie who won't be qualified

 

[Divine]

Similar recent performance and "modest upgrade" feels crazy misleading here when talking about the goalies.

Woll has 1 season under a .900 save% and Ersson has none above it. Woll's down year has him closer to the highest save% in the league than he was to Ersson.

Woll and Skinner have comparable career stats when he was traded despite Skinner playing twice as many games. (.904 vs .906)

What would you consider Skinner's value?

 

[Buckley]

Perhaps this is step #1 setting up a much bigger move, or at least I hope so.

Both Leaf players were under contract

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While both Flyers are currently RFAs

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So that frees up $5 mil in cap space for the Leafs.

Also the 3rd round pick in next weeks draft might be earmarked for a player the Leafs scouts really like.

So maybe Leafs management in playing 3D Chess making an early sacrifice to reset the board a little setting up a more beneficial move still to come.

The Leafs will no doubt sign Andrae, so the saving might be more like $3.5 million on this trade (assuming they don't sign Ersson). That's still pretty solid.

 

[Gallagbi]

Woll and Skinner have comparable career stats when he was traded despite Skinner playing twice as many games. (.904 vs .906)

What would you consider Skinner's value?

I'm not really sure what that has to do with my point about the commentary being misleading

 

[Tak7]

Looking at Woll's numbers from 2 years ago - he was elite..

Really fearing that the Leafs gave up on this guy too early.