LD Rasmus Sandin - Rogle BK, SHL (2018, 29th, TOR)

[Kamiccolo]

No Liljegren did not look years away. Both looked pretty good in pre-season.

Did I say he was bad? I said he looks years away, which he does. Talent is there but he isn't ready for the NHL yet. Not even dominating the AHL yet. He'll spend at least this year and next with the Marlies.

 

[Brobust]

No Liljegren did not look years away. Both looked pretty good in pre-season.

Liljegren is up and down depending on when you watch him.

Sometimes he's got great gap control, is very aggressive at transitioning the puck. Other times, he looks like a flustered Gardiner.

 

[leafsfan2point0]

I feel like if all goes well, liljegren will turn into a rhd gardiner with hopefully less gaffes and Sandin will turn into a vlasic type dman *knock on wood

 

[Antropovsky]

My expectations for Liljgren are low... I hope I'm wrong, of course; but I think he just does not have the hockey sense.

 

[TheBeastCoast]

My expectations for Liljgren are low... I hope I'm wrong, of course; but I think he just does not have the hockey sense.

Really? From everything I have seen watching him that is one of his biggest strengths.

 

[Antropovsky]

Really? From everything I have seen watching him that is one of his biggest strengths.

I've seen him in limited viewings... so take my opinion with a grain of salt.

 

[LeafChief]

2 games. 2 goals.

 

[TMLeafs18]

I’m glad he’s getting an opportunity in the AHL his game should grow a lot this year.

 

[GTA]

 

[TheGoldenJet]

Yikes.

Kid will be all right, but still has a lot of work to do at the pro level. Good tools for sure though he’s not as polished as Liljegren was coming in last year.

 

[Knies iT]

Yikes.

Kid will be all right, but still has a lot of work to do at the pro level. Good tools for sure though he’s not as polished as Liljegren was coming in last year.

He’s more polished and pro-ready than Liljegren was at the same age.

Sandin outperformed Liljegren in this year’s camp despite being a year younger, and TL had a good camp so that’s saying something.

 

[DownGoesMcDavid]

Got schooled hard tonight.

Im still not seeing NHL level defending from him.

 

[Canada4Gold]

Got schooled hard tonight.

Im still not seeing NHL level defending from him.

That’s disappointing. Because most 18 year old defenceman in the AHL exhibit NHL level defending. Oh well, there’s always next years 1st round pick I guess.

 

[TheBeastCoast]

Got schooled hard tonight.

Im still not seeing NHL level defending from him.

Well if someone as impartial and level headed as you has this opinion I guess it is time to pack it in. Was fun while it lasted for Sandin.

 

[Arizonan God]

Got schooled hard tonight.

Im still not seeing NHL level defending from him.

Probably because he’s not an NHL level defender yet. Hence playing in the AHL.

 

[TheGoldenJet]

He’s more polished and pro-ready than Liljegren was at the same age.

Sandin outperformed Liljegren in this year’s camp despite being a year younger, and TL had a good camp so that’s saying something.

I must have watched a different camp. Liljegren at least got on the preseason scoresheet if I recall, while Sandin did not.

 

[BM14]

I must have watched a different camp. Liljegren at least got on the preseason scoresheet if I recall, while Sandin did not.

You know these two are defensemen, right?

 

[TheGoldenJet]

You know these two are defensemen, right?

Really? I thought they were goalies.

 

[Jeffrey Pedler]

Really? I thought they were goalies.

What BM14 means is that a defenceman's job is to prevent goals first and foremost. If a defenceman is not on the scoresheet it's not a big deal.

 

[BoredBrandonPridham]

What BM14 means is that a defenceman's job is to prevent goals first and foremost. If a defenceman is not on the scoresheet it's not a big deal.

I don’t necessarily disagree with you. But every year Norris candidates are selected primarily by offensive production, secondarily by shot suppression.

 

[Jeffrey Pedler]

I don’t necessarily disagree with you. But every year Norris candidates are selected primarily by offensive production, secondarily by shot suppression.

I get that, but this team has a lot of offensive defenceman (Reilly, Gardiner, Liljegren, even Zaitsev that one year). Like someone said earlier, Sandin will be a Vlasic type stay at home Dman. The Leafs need those types.

 

[Holymakinaw]

I get that, but this team has a lot of offensive defenceman (Reilly, Gardiner, Liljegren, even Zaitsev that one year). Like someone said earlier, Sandin will be a Vlasic type stay at home Dman. The Leafs need those types.

I'm not sure Sandin projects to be a "Stay at Home" guy, does he? He's got some good offensive tools, as well. He's more of a top-4, two-way threat, I think.

 

[TheGoldenJet]

What BM14 means is that a defenceman's job is to prevent goals first and foremost. If a defenceman is not on the scoresheet it's not a big deal.

I get that. And right now, one of these two prospects is very clearly better defensively than the other. Sandin is not a stay at home D, btw.

 

[Lays]

I feel like if all goes well, liljegren will turn into a rhd gardiner with hopefully less gaffes and Sandin will turn into a vlasic type dman *knock on wood

I get that, but this team has a lot of offensive defenceman (Reilly, Gardiner, Liljegren, even Zaitsev that one year). Like someone said earlier, Sandin will be a Vlasic type stay at home Dman. The Leafs need those types.

Where are people getting this Vlasic comparison from? Sandin isn’t a defensive dman/stay at home dman and I wouldn’t even call him good defensively...he’s a PMD

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

Where are people getting this Vlasic comparison from? Sandin isn’t a defensive dman/stay at home dman and I wouldn’t even call him good defensively...he’s a PMD

I agree with your stylistic comparison, but he's actually extremely good defensively. it's his offense that needs more work