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LD Olli Juolevi - TPS, Liiga (2016, 5th, VAN)

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Craig Button did a quick top 15 mock today and had Juolevi going at 7 to the Leafs.

Very interesting how quick his stock has risen in just a few weeks.
 
WilliamNylander said:
Craig Button did a quick top 15 mock today and had Juolevi going at 7 to the Leafs.

Very interesting how quick his stock has risen in just a few weeks.
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Not that surprised, he's been slowly going up during the season and this tournament gives him a huge boost.

Before the tournament I was thinking he is a 8-12 range pick and can't see him dropping below that now.
 
In the right scenario, I can see Juolevi rising up to the 6-9 range.

I think some teams may regret passing up on him after all is said and done.
 
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/juniors/will-the-2016-nhl-draft-even-have-a-canadian-in-the-top-5/

Fair to say, NHL scouts saw Laine and Puljujarvi coming. They were clearly in the mix for the top five. But a name that is coming into play from farther back based on the first couple of months of the CHL season is Olli Juolevi, a Finnish defenceman who’s has 23 points in 29 games with (yeah, again) the London Knights in this his OHL rookie season.

A few weeks back, before the under-20 teams were selected, I spoke to one Ontario-based scout, a bit of a contrarian by nature, but he was unequivocal about Juolevi and Chychrun. “Love the Finnish kid,†the scout said. “He makes plays every shift. Chychrun has tools, obvious ability, but too often he’s waiting for play to come to him.â€

What was his opinion in the minority previously seems to be approaching consensus. Chychrun was cut loose in the Canadian tryouts and Juolevi has shone. “I had Chychrun ahead of [Juolevi] but I’ve flipped them based on his play here,†one scout said Sunday. [Juolevi] played what, 30 minutes against Canada [in the quarterfinal]. He didn’t have such a big game against Sweden but still he’s the Finns’ best defenceman. Maybe the best in the tournament.â€
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What a time to be a Finn hockey fan :handclap:
 
BB88 said:
What a time to be a Finn hockey fan :handclap:
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Truly.

Things were looking pretty bad a couple of years ago. Even during 2010 draft where we had Granlund and Pulkkinen who were supposed to be the next generation of elite finnish hockey players. Granlund propably is a generational talent in finnish hockey, but everyone knew he lacks the tools to make the final cut towards stardom in the NHL (skating and/or size). In contrast to this, sweden was consistently producing prospects that had great set of talent, combined with great skating and good size.
 
Baggie said:
Things were looking pretty bad a couple of years ago. Even during 2010 draft where we had Granlund and Pulkkinen who were supposed to be the next generation of elite finnish hockey players. Granlund propably is a generational talent in finnish hockey, but everyone knew he lacks the tools to make the final cut towards stardom in the NHL (skating and/or size).
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Granlund is way above the Finnish average, but if we're talking about "generational" in this context, we're talking about Barkov.

Juolevi, Laine and Puljujärvi can reach for that status too, no doubt.
 
FiLe said:
Granlund is way above the Finnish average, but if we're talking about "generational" in this context, we're talking about Barkov.
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Barkov is the generational talent, atleast for finland, that we have been waiting for.

About Granlund, I wasn't saying he's average. He's one of the best finnish players, but not what majority of people expected him to be. My point was that there were a lot of great finnish prospects around 2010, who just happened to lack size and skating to become NHL'ers. Granlund and Vatanen are solid NHL'ers right now but could be elite ones if they had more size (and in Granlund's case better skating). Now our best prospects are blessed with huge bodies and no major skating issues, just like sweden. :)

Sorry for derailing the thread
 
At the 7-8 range, (as long as no shockers come earlier ala Thomas Hickey) I'd happily take him on the Leafs, think he and Rielly would be pretty dynamic, smart, fast, strong..
 
Baggie said:
About Granlund, I wasn't saying he's average.
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And I wasn't implying you said so. What I meant is that while Granlund is high end, and will no doubt serve our NT whenever he's available and willing for the next decade and half, he's not generational as you called him. Even by Finnish standards (which seem to have gone up a bit lately).

Barkov's currently set the bar, and it'll be interesting to see if Juolevi, Pulju and Laine can reach same heights.
 
wings5 said:
Listed at almost 6'3 but I might generously give him 6'1.
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I think that generally people overvalue players' height and that a few inches matters next to nothing, but I take issue with these kind of posts. I think that people should more or less go with the given measurements since they seem to be systematically all over the place. But I digress:

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Laine 6'4, Puljujarvi 6'4, Juolevi 6'2.5, Salo 6'0, Vaakanainen 6'1. I think the measurements seem plausible (taking perspective, their postures and other such matters into account).
 
wings5 said:
Listed at almost 6'3 but I might generously give him 6'1.
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You're absolutely right and it should be obvious to anyone watching the games. He's not 6'2.

Pictures are ALWAYS wrong. Just look at this picture from last summer. Rantanen was measured at 6'3.5" at the combine, Ristolainen was measured 6'4 at the combine. Still Rantanen looks like he could be 6'6 in that picture.

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myrsky said:
You're absolutely right and it should be obvious to anyone watching the games. He's not 6'2.

Pictures are ALWAYS wrong. Just look at this picture from last summer. Rantanen was measured at 6'3.5" at the combine, Ristolainen was measured 6'4 at the combine. Still Rantanen looks like he could be 6'6 in that picture.

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He does not. They look like they are both 6'4 and Rantanen has higher hair. But I agree about the fact that pictures can lie, which is why you should maybe just trust the measurements given.
 
HockeyHistorian said:
He does not. They look like they are both 6'4 and Rantanen has higher hair. But I agree about the fact that pictures can lie, which is why you should maybe just trust the measurements given.
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No. Rantanen walks further behind, has his head tilted and yet he towers over Ristolainen.
 
"Pictures are ALWAYS wrong, just look at this picture that took 1 hour to find and is from far away as possible and the people in it are moving". :laugh: Of course some pictures lie but the most won't if the players are side by side and relatively close. To say every picture is always wrong is just madness.
 

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