Chayka had a position since last year, you can assume he had some input on scouting directives. Its most likely he had a say on Merkley last year. We'll see at the draft. Good chance they go D, but Pronman has them going Nylander, personally if he's off the board I could easily see them going Keller, then addressing D in bulk with there later 1st and second.
LD Olli Juolevi - TPS, Liiga (2016, 5th, VAN)
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I think they go D before Keller and that Jost will be higher on their list as well.
Merkley they had rated in the teens. As did Calgary. AZ was set to draft Fisher at that pick and then pounced when Merkley was still there.
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Watched only til the end of the 2nd (Raps were quite important). Had one great outlet pass to set up Jones. Typical Juolevi game, never really wowed you, but didn't make mistakes. Looked much better than the first game.
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Really smooth. Had 4 great outlet passes that either resulted in full or partial break aways/scoring chance/goals. Really crisp passes overall. Made alot of smart little plays to get out of trouble/relieve pressure. Got knocked around a bit physically at times but was generally really composed. Chia was interviewed during the 2nd intermission and said both he and Tkachuk are considerations for the Oilers at 4. Like the previous poster I took most of the 3rd period off to concentrate on Raptors game so the majority of my viewing was from first 2.
Solid as usual, except for maybe one play on the PK where he over committed that led to a goal.
His stretch pass is nuts. Guy can hit player right on the tape from anywhere. The panel attributed a lot of the Knights' offensive success to the puck movers on the backend (Mete, Juo), said it's what separates London from other offensive juggernauts like Moose Jaw.
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Thanks! I think its between Olli & Chychrun at pick 8 for us.
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One of them should be there, tho seems likelier to be Chychrun at this point. I actually like Serg the best of the 3 top dmen honestly.
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If you are Arizona sitting at #7 and seeing him pass to Dvorak, is he your pick given the have lots of F prospects?
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He should be sent back down for his 18-19 and 19-20 junior seasons. Most D men need time to develop and physically mature for the NHL. Same goes for Chychrun, he needs at minimum one more year in junior.
Ideally, you want your D prospects to be grown men when they step into the NHL and deal with the dump & chase, heavy forecheck NA style game.
Both need at least one more year. Could see both in Provorov type situation entering their draft +2 years. Rushing them next year though could be disastrous. Can't see Juolevi excelling against NHL speed on small ice, as he already can have occasional trouble at the CHL level. Thats why he has his best play when he isn't against heavy forecheck, when he has time to make the correct pass and read.
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He needs another year in the weight room. He has a high hockey IQ, and he's excellent passer. But he needs to get physically stronger, he would get eaten alive facing an NHL forecheck. Imagine Juolevi playing in LA facing that forecheck at his age right now.
If he was drafted by Arizona and rushed into the lineup, he will get destroyed playing in the Pacific with the style our division plays. Even Nurse should have been down in the AHL all year and he's a strong kid.
I've seen more of Juolevi than any other draft eligible than Tkachuk. Very smart, had a better WJC than OHL season due to space he gets. He'll be good, and yes strength is part of it, but its also adapting to how to use his smarts and speed of the game. He can be flustered under heavy forecheck, but is deadly if given space such as that pass last night to Jones. He doesn't have quite the speed yet to elude heavy pressure. It will be interesting to see Knights led by Tkachuk and him next year.
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I agree.
You've seen more of Juolevi then I have so I'll defer to your analysis. But, we're basically agreeing and saying the same thing. I see exactly what you are talking about in my limited viewings of Juolevi. Excellent smarts, good puck mover (as evidenced by the pass to Jones last night), average skater, prone to mistakes against a heavy forecheck.
I think him and Tkachuk both need another year in junior. It would be good for Tkachuk, he'll probably be the captain and "the guy" for London (I'm assuming Marner is in the NHL), would do wonders for him long term.
I would disagree on a couple points: he's an excellent 4 way skater, but maybe not explosive. Far above average.
I think he makes really good plays under forecheck, but needs to get stronger. I like his ability to stick to players like Scott Niedermayer used to do, but doesn't quite have Scott's strength and balance yet. He'll be so effective when he gets that strength.
The question mark is, he doesn't play a lot of minutes or tough minutes, because London's blue line is deep with really good veterans.
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As someone who admittedly has only seen Juolevi play in the WJC's but has read numerous scouting reports by scouts and HFboards users, that actually sounds like a pretty decent comparison.
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Would I be completely wrong if I said Juolevi was played like a #1D on the finals?
I thought he looked great, he seems like a prospect that is difficult to beat 1on1, and looked more aggressive offensively as the game went on.
Not bad year for Juolevi, became the 1st Finn to win Memorial Cup, + WJC gold.
I thought he looked great, he seems like a prospect that is difficult to beat 1on1, and looked more aggressive offensively as the game went on.
Not bad year for Juolevi, became the 1st Finn to win Memorial Cup, + WJC gold.
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He doesn't need to dominate or lead the offense. That London team is so top line centric, pretty much everyone just needs to follow their lead and support them. He does show flashes though, and I do wonder what his game would look like if the Knights were more dependent on everyone to create.
That said, I thought his entire Memorial Cup was the usual stuff from Juolevi. Solid, highly intelligent, excellent gap control and stick work, poise with and without the puck, great transitions. He's just a player that if you isolate on him impresses you with all the smart plays all over. I don't think he's a franchise #1, but a ceiling of a Stralman-like player doesn't seem unreasonable. That's a hell of a player, and he really fits the mold of what a good modern NHL d man is supposed to be. And I'm not sure I see a future #1 out of the other top d men either. Sergachyev is the only one for me who is dead even, but he has more risk.
That said, I thought his entire Memorial Cup was the usual stuff from Juolevi. Solid, highly intelligent, excellent gap control and stick work, poise with and without the puck, great transitions. He's just a player that if you isolate on him impresses you with all the smart plays all over. I don't think he's a franchise #1, but a ceiling of a Stralman-like player doesn't seem unreasonable. That's a hell of a player, and he really fits the mold of what a good modern NHL d man is supposed to be. And I'm not sure I see a future #1 out of the other top d men either. Sergachyev is the only one for me who is dead even, but he has more risk.
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if this kid is the best or even among the best D's in a draft then my gawd what a weak draft for defenesemen
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Said it in the Knights post, but I'm not impressed with him. He makes very good passes out of his zone, and skates extremely well, but he makes poor effort along the boards, and found tonight he was timid getting the puck when a huskie was near him. I just don't find him extremely special to be a top pairing guy. The hype from his great play in junior didn't stick with me after watching the knights all season, and playoffs.
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