Korostolev can't skate, that is why he slipped it had nothing to do with the russian factor and Barbashev's draft spot was inline with production and ability. I'd say its non-existent among first round guys at this point and possibly the whole draft.
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Yep, both Barbashev and Korostelev had skating concerns and that's why they failed, but Russian factor here is that they failed really badly: Barbashev from predicted Top20 to second round and Korostelev dropping to 7-th from predicted 4-th round or something.
But again, it is a bit of OT, since Sergachyov is not the case, just I meant that nowadays 'Russian factor' is not just simply about coming over or not (especially since almost all of them are coming over these days).
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I think it just affected them less.
The Russian factor is kind of a fluid term that refers to the perceptions NHL executives and scouts have towards Russian players. And those perceptions are definitely guarded in any case.
Don't forget that Burmistrov did leave to play in the KHL for a while.
I know, but in most of these cases they went were they should have and didn't slip due to nationality, but there may be a couple dinosaurs who ignore Russian talent (Burke but Treliving seems to have control and the Murray's). I think the main worry for most teams is the lack of a transfer agreement and it being difficult to set up a strong russian scouting network due to KHL trying to limit access to NA scouts and most top Russians being employed by KHL in some capacity. It feels certain teams feel they either have good networks over there or just feel Russian based players are undervalued and worth the risk.
Back to Sergachev, he seems to be the most boom/bust of the 3 OHL guys, but he really has an interesting skill set. If Leafs stay in the top 3, and Pitt gets knocked out prior to the conf finals, I'd love to see us use Pitts 1st and one of our multiple 2nds we own to move up to the 8-10 range and get Sergachev or whichever OHL defender falls.
Don't think a second rounder moves you up 10 spots in the first round, especially to the top 10.
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I think the Russian factor is mostly speculation. Nobody knows what the general mindset is about Russians.
Sergachev is clearly in this to play in the NHL. I hope he is drafted early.
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Huge boost for that team to get both Sergachyov and Abramov. Looks like young Svechnikov will get a taste as well.
This is a great opportunity for an undercard group to buck the down press. The U17's just took the 5 Nations tournament in Plymouth and a good amount of those kids are on the just released roster.
I was hoping to get a chance to Kostin and Samorukov play up in level. Kostin is 6'3-6'4' and can handle the puck. Samorukov actually looks a bit like Sergachyov did last year. He's really physical and has a bomb from the point.
Even the depth guys can play and offer a revolving door of kids that can step up, but can they do it an age group higher? Should be interesting to follow.
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he is the just are leaving the spot open for him, Gatineau should beat Moncton though
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Russia scores 7 goals against Latvia today but he does not pick up a point. Still looking for his 1st point of the tourney after 3 games.
Points aren't everything for a defenceman, but considering his high end skills, it's still disappointing that he is not tearing it up.
Points aren't everything for a defenceman, but considering his high end skills, it's still disappointing that he is not tearing it up.
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For me, Russian factor includes the idea of increase competition from other foreign teams not covered by the CBA.
I see the draft as an investment, so if you have two similar players who you both don't mind having, if there is one player with more options out of the NHL, the more power that player has in negiotating their contracts. They can drive up the price, have more weapons during negotiations, and more control over where they develop.
Unfortunate for NA players (except for college kids maybe), but NA players often have little control of their contract during the developing years (which I can imagine NHL teams love). They can only talk contract with their drafting team, most are probably uncomfortable of playing overseas in a foreign land, and you know where they'll end up (junior>NHL owned AHL team>NHL).
But with all that said, with KHL in financial trouble, that might be all gone.
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He's looked a lot more conservative in his play in this tournament than usual, so I can agree with that assessment.
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for a guy who should lead his team, he's pretty underwhelming to say the least. i won't say he will be a bust like svechnikov, but the guy is overhyped big time.
I'm not impressed with the 2016 crop of d men.
Personally I'd take a forward in the first round.
Personally I'd take a forward in the first round.
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Is playing pretty terrible.
2 penalties within 5 minutes of each other.
Has been invisible according to Craig Button
2 penalties within 5 minutes of each other.
Has been invisible according to Craig Button
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I think you guys are being harsh. One of the penalties was dumb, but I feel he's been solid in his zone.
He just had an amazing breakout a minute ago. Also had a quality rush up ice early in the 3rd.
It's clear he has way more leeway to get into the offence when playing for Windsor.
Also Button has just been praising him non-stop.
He just had an amazing breakout a minute ago. Also had a quality rush up ice early in the 3rd.
It's clear he has way more leeway to get into the offence when playing for Windsor.
Also Button has just been praising him non-stop.
