LD Luke Hughes (2021, 4th, NJD)
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Is he already better than Hamilton on the pp or he was put there because he's Jack brother? Hamilton is coming off a 74 points season and i see him in the second pp wave
Peasy
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Probably makes little difference between the two. They currently have the #1 ranked PP. Him playing PP one allows them to get him more minutes that arent 5 on 5 where Dougie would be more comfortable handling atm.
Just my 2 cents.
TLEH
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No one is playing on the PP because they are "Jacks brother"
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The claim was they wanted to have two PP units, but Luke has 2x the PP time of Hamilton so that was kind of bogus. I think Luke Hughes is a better fit for how they want that (presumably the first) PP to operate, with quick puck movement being the star from the backend instead of a booming shot.
Dougie might be a better PP player in a vacuum but Luke is a better fit on that unit
Are you really this salty about Hughes making the team over Nemec? Luke has been a huge part of the PP's early success.
AfroThunder396
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Luke is 7th among defensemen in PP points, tied with Quinn and Makar among others. He is also T-2nd in rookie overall scoring, only Ridly Greig has more points as a rookie.
That being said, Hamilton is T-3rd in overall defenseman goals and T-2nd in PP goals among defensemen. They bring totally different skills to the PP. Luke is more of a waterbug, dancing around the blueline and drawing defenders to him in order to open up the ice. Dougie has more of a direct approach, which usually involves hammering slapshots on net for either clean goals or chances at tips/defelctions.
Luke has been as advertised so far. Yes, some poor decisions and a few defensive lapses, but that is to be expected from a 20 year old rookie with virtually no pro experience. But when the puck is on his stick he's absolutely electrifying to watch. The only current player I can think of who shows similar puck control with such a large frame is Tage Thompson. I'd like to see him add a *little* bit of lower body strength for when he's working in the corners against small guys with a lower center of gravity, but other than that I don't really have any complaints.
It's clear that not only does he belong in the NHL, but he's only scratching the surface of his potential.
That being said, Hamilton is T-3rd in overall defenseman goals and T-2nd in PP goals among defensemen. They bring totally different skills to the PP. Luke is more of a waterbug, dancing around the blueline and drawing defenders to him in order to open up the ice. Dougie has more of a direct approach, which usually involves hammering slapshots on net for either clean goals or chances at tips/defelctions.
Luke has been as advertised so far. Yes, some poor decisions and a few defensive lapses, but that is to be expected from a 20 year old rookie with virtually no pro experience. But when the puck is on his stick he's absolutely electrifying to watch. The only current player I can think of who shows similar puck control with such a large frame is Tage Thompson. I'd like to see him add a *little* bit of lower body strength for when he's working in the corners against small guys with a lower center of gravity, but other than that I don't really have any complaints.
It's clear that not only does he belong in the NHL, but he's only scratching the surface of his potential.
Oneiro
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Hamilton is less dynamic - he's always going to shoot if it's even remotely an option. He's not going to do much to get the defenders to overcommit. He's got a great shot but now we have Toffoli as a sniper on that unit.
Luke just has more mobility and deception to his game and it's paying dividends - the PP was mediocre and now it's one of the best in the league. Luke is way more versatile in how he can carve up the coverage and this gives Jack and Bratt more options as well. So between the three of them the movement is crazy. You'd just never get that with Hamilton.
The biggest improvement in our PP with Luke vs Dougie is zone entries. Luke is incredible at carrying the puck through the neutral zone - he effortlessly glides past the first attacker and is a real threat to go end to end, pushing the opposition back far enough to make the zone entry that much easier once he bumps it back to Jack and Bratt.
MasterofGrond
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yeah Jack and Luke on the same PP is disgusting. It's running white hot and will cool off, but that pairing is flat out dangerous.
PK has to respect their skating and creativity so much it opens so much opportunity.
PK has to respect their skating and creativity so much it opens so much opportunity.
Those two + Bratt make our PP so dynamic. We'll never struggle with zone entries with those 3.
Lol didn’t realize it was the poster who said “Nemec should demand a trade from the Devils,” because Luke made the opening night lineup
Dirtyf1ghter
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Always dreamed of the Hughes brothers reuniting. I would like a Quinn Hughes to Simon Nemec trade in 2026 (more realistic). Quinn Hughes is a UFA in 2027 and I have a hard time imagining he wouldn't want to join New Jersey.
Part of the TOI story is that pp1 scores so much that the 2nd unit isn't even able to get out on the ice.
BavelPure
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L. Hughes, J. Hughes and Bratt pretty much put the other team in a blender until a lane opens up and then finish. It's different than how Hamilton works with Bratt and Jack. Having him Meier, Holtz, Palat and Mercer on PP2 is pretty killer 1-2 punch.
They tried to start the season with 1A/1B options with PP units. Definitely an oddity by today's standards but the 2000-01 squad was set up that way and they had the #1 ranked PP that season. Alex Mogilny and Randy McKay led with 12 PP goals apiece from the "1B" unit.
1A: Toffoli-J.Hughes-Bratt-Palat-L.Hughes
1B: Mercer-Hischier-Meier-Holtz-Hamilton
Felt a bit weird trailing late in a game and having Jack potentially on the bench. After a couple games they reverted back to one unit getting the lion's share. Nico was put back on the top unit to help with faceoffs since that's definitely not Jack's strength.
PP is clicking so far. As others said, Luke doesn't have Dougie's shot but he's a bit more mobile/creative. Luke still ironing stuff out 5x5 (being on a pair with Brendan Smith probably hasn't helped), so having Dougie absorb those minutes is useful.
Maybe not exactly the same playing styles, but in some ways it reminds me of when Brian Rafalski bumped Scott Niedermayer off PP1 in 1999. Albeit Nieds played PK and Hamilton generally doesn't.
NJ's power play is scoring at a rate of forty-three per cent to start the season. Whatever the hell they're doing, it's more than working.
Don’t be so sure. Jack and his father seem to have a big say in things for this organization. No one knows what is said behind closed doors but I can absolutely see Jack asking to play on the powerplay with his brother and for the coaches to try it out to accommodate Jack and it has been working.
As a frustrated Hamilton owner in fantasy, it’s an absolute waste of your 78 point elite offensive dman in his prime with a 9.5 million cap hit to receive such little pp time and no pk time. Lost his spot to a rookie and it has nothing to do with poor play.
I get laughed at on the devils board but it’s blatant nepotism.
Nepotism- the practice among those with power or influence of favoring relatives, friends, or associates, especially by giving them jobs.
TLEH
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Conspirary Theory -
- a belief that some secret but influential organization/individual is responsible for an event or phenomenon.
"they sought to account for the lack of PP time for Dougie Hamilton in terms of a conspiracy theory"
Oneiro
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Fantasy sports are dumb. There I said it.
Luke Hughes on the PP makes complete sense on a team that had mild difficulty with entries and were middle of the pack. It's not a slight to Dougie and the PP2 unit will be good as well.
Luke Hughes on the PP makes complete sense on a team that had mild difficulty with entries and were middle of the pack. It's not a slight to Dougie and the PP2 unit will be good as well.
Peasy
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William H Bonney
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This is wild when the Devils have the #1 PP producing at a 42.4% clip.
If the Hughes family had this much pull with the Devils then Luke wouldn't have been scratched for most of the playoffs.
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