LD Dmitry Simashev - Lokomotiv Yaroslavl, KHL (2023, 6th, ARI)

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At what point will people stop trusting this plan? It’s been a hell of a long rebuild and they still need a bunch of pieces.
Yzerman started in 2019, his two first 1st round picks has played 2 years in NHL. The third and fifth 1st round picks debuted right before this regular season ended. The first rebuild piece Rasmussen(#9, 2017) finally started to figured out how to use his size. 2018 1st round pick, Zadina is a bust and the second 1st round pick in 2018, Veleno is career 4th liner. Cossa is a goalie, they take for ever. 3 years is a conservative estimed when he is ready.

Berggren 2nd round pick in 2018 made his NHL breakthrough this year, great first 50 games and then got gassed out. McIsaac the second 2nd round pick in 2018, got a couple shoulder injuries which ruined his development. 2017 2nd round pick Lindström, 7D at best, most likely going back to Europe. Yzerman's mid/late round pick are just starting their careers in AHL, Söderblom, Johansson, Viro, Hanas started this year. Wallinder, Mazur, Lombardi and Tuomisto starts next season. There is still large group of prospects in Europe/College/juniors.

Rebuild is not fast and rushing prospects only makes it slower.
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I don't think Yzerman is after Simashev. Dvorsky makes more sense.
 
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All this talk about him being "best pure defensive player in the draft" is based on what exactly? MHL is not an indicator for this kind of claim at all. Based on what exactly he is better defensively than let say Wilander or Reinbacher?
Simashev is a raw prospect with good tools. That's it, he is a project. All the talk of "Eraser" is pure speculation

Ps Where have you guys even watched him that much?
 
All this talk about him being "best pure defensive player in the draft" is based on what exactly? MHL is not an indicator for this kind of claim at all. Based on what exactly he is better defensively than let say Wilander or Reinbacher?
Simashev is a raw prospect with good tools. That's it, he is a project. All the talk of "Eraser" is pure speculation

Ps Where have you guys even watched him that much?

I've watched him, he kinda reminds me Nikishin, not sure is it good or bad...
 
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All this talk about him being "best pure defensive player in the draft" is based on what exactly? MHL is not an indicator for this kind of claim at all. Based on what exactly he is better defensively than let say Wilander or Reinbacher?
Simashev is a raw prospect with good tools. That's it, he is a project. All the talk of "Eraser" is pure speculation

Ps Where have you guys even watched him that much?

I'd say that Simashev's decision-making defensively is a tiny bit quicker and overall more stable than those two guys as things stand now. At least it appeared to me that way when I watched Simashev some.

As for a more specific defensive tools comparison, I'd argue that Simashev's gap control and passing lane anticipation/blocking would trump the others' while he is better at exiting the zone defensively and staving-off forward pressure than Willander currently is (and roughly equal to Reinbacher).

I also think Simashev has the best backwards skating ability of those (those back cross-overs of his are a thing of beauty).

Against the cycle I'd say that Willander is probably the better of the three, and the best skater of the bunch in straight lines by the tiniest of margins. Reinbacher's game is more mature offensively, he has the best agility, balance, the better set of hands, and greater transition ability out of the three (Simashev wouldn't be far behind though).

And Reinbacher's shooting ability would also be marginally better than the other two. Although none have much more than average shots by NHL defensemen standards as things currently stand.

If you made me pick, I'd say Simashev has the worst arsenal of shots out of the three of them (not by much though), but inversely he is also the best of the three at getting his shots through defenders' checks/sticks.

Now, if we put comparisons aside and focus on evaluating Simashev's game on its own, then I'd have to admit that I agree with some of your assessment, but not all.

Simashev does have some amount of flaws as a prospect that could mean he never ends up becoming a star, or even true top 4 defenseman. He is pretty safe to be a good defenseman, and projects well overall, but there is still risk he busts therein as opposed to a guy like Reinbacher, who is more polished at this point and thus more likely to reach his potential.

In my viewings, I've found Simashev to still be quite a bit "raw", as you've said, with the puck on his stick in the offensive zone at the KHL level, and it should realistically take him a couple seasons before he works-out some of the kinks in his game. In addition, Simashev will need to work on his shot (slap shot has to get faster/heavier, wrist shot release needs to get better), gain some more physical maturity (200 pounds or so at 6'4 means he could put up another 15-25 pounds no problem) as well as adjust the timing of his pinches along the boards.

He could similarly stand to make his first couple steps more explosive and work on his skating mechanics a bit (edges, ankle flexion, reducing torso motion). That said, Simashev's skating is still really good as a prospect, and the fact that he can move like that at 6'4 remains a huge boon for the team that drafts him. If he made those adjustments I mentioned, Simashev's skating would go from "good" to "great" by NHL standards.

In the end, Simashev's mind for the game, the fact that his head is always on a swivel, that he can not only defend really well 1-on-1 but also break the cycle effectively, make a good first pass out the zone and/or also transition the puck away from the defensive zone himself if need be is what makes him such a complete defensive player, one that should be heavily coveted come the draft in spite of current geopolitics.

I don't know if I'd have Simashev as the single best "pure defensive player" of this year's draft, but he wouldn't be far-off. And I'd consider him to indeed be better defensively than Willander (better with the puck on his stick against checkers/transition), and Reinbacher (better against cycle, more stable), with a potentially more imposing physical presence to boot.

As far as defensemen rankings overall this year, my personal list would go: Reinbacher, Simashev, Gulyayev, Willander, Sandin-Pelikka, in that order. All of those defensemen have at least top-4 upside, show great promise as prospects, and I think any team that drafts them will and should be pretty happy.

Now, as far as viewing Simashev's games, MHL games are completely free to stream on Youtube, for those who want to watch him there (I think you know, but some might benefit from that info drop).

As an aside, here is a 40+ minute video for three full games by Simashev, in French, if you wanted some more insight on his game/to see him on the ice more.


So yeah, that's it from me. Cheers and have a good night.
 
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I'd say that Simashev's decision-making defensively is a tiny bit quicker and overall more stable than those two guys as things stand now. At least it appeared to me that way when I watched Simashev some.

As for a more specific defensive tools comparison, I'd argue that Simashev's gap control and passing lane anticipation/blocking would trump the others' while he is better at exiting the zone defensively and staving-off forward pressure than Willander currently is (and roughly equal to Reinbacher).

I also think Simashev has the best backwards skating ability of those (those back cross-overs of his are a thing of beauty).

Against the cycle I'd say that Willander is probably the better of the three, and the best skater of the bunch in straight lines by the tiniest of margins. Reinbacher's game is more mature offensively, he has the best agility, balance, the better set of hands, and greater transition ability out of the three (Simashev wouldn't be far behind though).

And Reinbacher's shooting ability would also be marginally better than the other two. Although none have much more than average shots by NHL defensemen standards as things currently stand.

If you made me pick, I'd say Simashev has the worst arsenal of shots out of the three of them (not by much though), but inversely he also is the best of the three at getting his shots through defenders' checks/stick.

Now, if we put comparisons aside and focus on evaluating Simashev's game on its own, then I'd have to admit that I agree with some of your assessment, but not all.

Simashev does have some amount of flaws as a prospect that could mean he never ends up becoming a star, or even true top 4 defenseman. He is pretty safe to be a good defenseman, and projects well overall, but there is still risk he busts therein as opposed to a guy like Reinbacher, who is more polished at this point and thus more likely to reach his potential.

In my viewings, I've found Simashev to still be quite a bit "raw", as you've said, with the puck on his stick in the offensive zone at the KHL level, and it should realistically take him a couple seasons before he works-out some of the kinks in his game. In addition, Simashev will need to work on his shot (slap shot has to get faster/heavier, wrist shot release needs to get better), gain some more physical maturity (200 pounds or so at 6'4 means he could put up another 15-25 pounds no problem) as well as adjust the timing of his pinches along the boards.

He could similarly stand to make his first couple steps more explosive and work on his skating mechanics a bit (edges, ankle flexion, reducing torso motion). That said, Simashev's skating is still really good as a prospect, and the fact that he can move like that at 6'4 remains a huge boon for the team that drafts him. If he made those adjustments I mentioned, Simashev's skating would go from "good" to "great" by NHL standards.

In the end, Simashev's mind for the game, the fact that his head is always on a swivel, that he can not only defend really well 1-on-1 but also break the cycle effectively, make a good first pass out the zone and/or also transition the puck away from the defensive zone himself if need be is what makes him such a complete defensive player, one that should be heavily coveted come the draft in spite of current geopolitics.

I don't know if I'd have Simashev as the single best "pure defensive player" of this year's draft, but he wouldn't be far-off. And I'd consider him to indeed be better defensively than Willander (better with the puck on his stick against checkers/transition), and Reinbacher (better against cycle, more stable), with a potentially more imposing physical presence to boot.

As far as defensemen rankings overall this year, my personal list would go: Reinbacher, Simashev, Gulyayev, Willander, Sandin-Pelikka, in that order. All of those defensemen have at least top-4 upside, show great promise as prospects, and I think any team that drafts them will and should be pretty happy.

Now, as far as viewing Simashev's games, MHL games are completely free to stream on Youtube, for those who want to watch him there (I think you know, but some might benefit from that info drop).

As an aside, here is a 40+ minute video for three full games by Simashev, in French, if you wanted some more insight on his game/to see him on the ice more.


So yeah, that's it from me. Cheers and have a good night.


Thanks. A well reasoned argument based on evidence vis-a-vis a biased ill informed poster. All young players are projects.

Depends on their learning ability and desire to take on what is imparted to them by coaches and senior players, increase their fitness and strength and if needed improve their skating.
 
All this talk about him being "best pure defensive player in the draft" is based on what exactly? MHL is not an indicator for this kind of claim at all. Based on what exactly he is better defensively than let say Wilander or Reinbacher?
Simashev is a raw prospect with good tools. That's it, he is a project. All the talk of "Eraser" is pure speculation

Ps Where have you guys even watched him that much?

Watching him? All of his MHL body of work is available on YouTube.
 
Ok, so you guys watch MHL games? Just interested, do you watch SHL, KHL, Liiga, NL, SHL j20, Liiga J20?
 
He's arguably the best pure defensive d-man in the draft, and has shown some intriguing untapped offensive skills the 2nd half of the season.

With his size, skating and defensive awareness he probably has the highest floor of any draft eligible defenseman.
Not arguably. He’s really really good defensively.

I’d love for the Blackhawks to take him at 19, but our forward pool needs some love.

Whoever takes him won’t regret it.
 
One could likewise pose the same question to you.
Considering you had no idea MHL games are online (the vast majority of his body of work), where have you watched Simashev that much?
1 .Never claimed you cant watch him in MHL
2.Saw some KHL games with him

Now, MHL level is really poor, the only reason to watch it is if you are a scout, but thats my opinion.

However, it seems strange to me that people from North America would spend their time watching MHL. I also don't really believe it. Hence, I don't get the title "best defensive player". Based on what? MHL? Thats not serious, he was literally not tested see defensively
Would be a different story if he played at WJC or if he was an impact player for Lokomotiv, but he is just an MHLer
 
1 .Never claimed you cant watch him in MHL
2.Saw some KHL games with him

Now, MHL level is really poor, the only reason to watch it is if you are a scout, but thats my opinion.

However, it seems strange to me that people from North America would spend their time watching MHL. I also don't really believe it. Hence, I don't get the title "best defensive player". Based on what? MHL? Thats not serious, he was literally not tested see defensively
Would be a different story if he played at WJC or if he was an impact player for Lokomotiv, but he is just an MHLer

Simashev is only a MHLer? How is that different than Willander who is only a J20?
Btw the level of MHL varies drastically. Some of it sucks, some of it is quite good. Loko's division is good. Simashev plays against all of SKA, CSKA, Dynamo Moscow, Spartak's junior teams.

So youve seen his KHL games? You're telling everyone you have the magical ability to judge a players ability based on 6 minutes of play a game? Ok then Garl.

It's more than obvious you havent seen Simashev play much at all.
 
Simashev is only a MHLer? How is that different than Willander who is only a J20?
Btw the level of MHL varies drastically. Some of it sucks, some of it is quite good. Loko's division is good. Simashev plays against all of SKA, CSKA, Dynamo Moscow, Spartak's junior teams.

So youve seen his KHL games? You're telling everyone you have the magical ability to judge a players ability based on 6 minutes of play a game? Ok then Garl.

It's more than obvious you havent seen Simashev play much at all.
Ok, my position
Simashev played mostly MHL this year. It js a very low level of hockey. Dominating there is not an indicator of being the "best defensive player"

If he played WJC or U18 against best players in the World of his age and was really good there(like Wilander) then would be one story.
Another option, if he played a lot at KHL level and looked good against men(like Reinbacher) but it wasn't the case. Btw, if he really was that good defensively "an Eraser" like someone claimed he would have got more ice time in KHL.

So, essentially, the "Eraser" legend is based on MHL and somehow we have lots of people from North America who watch MHL in their spare time, and also watch SHL, SHL j20, Liiga, Liiga J20, NL, CHL, USHL, Czech league etc. Very believable
 
That's to be expected when you start from zero.

Yzerman hasn't whiffed on a pick yet, that will be when the pitchforks start coming out.
How do you know he hasn't whiffed? How many of his draft picks have played a single game in the NHL? Like 3?

He sure hasn't hit any home runs outside of Seider either. I personally feel he could've made a better pick every time he stepped to the podium except for the Seider pick.
 
Ok, my position
Simashev played mostly MHL this year. It js a very low level of hockey. Dominating there is not an indicator of being the "best defensive player"

If he played WJC or U18 against best players in the World of his age and was really good there(like Wilander) then would be one story.
Another option, if he played a lot at KHL level and looked good against men(like Reinbacher) but it wasn't the case. Btw, if he really was that good defensively "an Eraser" like someone claimed he would have got more ice time in KHL.

So, essentially, the "Eraser" legend is based on MHL and somehow we have lots of people from North America who watch MHL in their spare time, and also watch SHL, SHL j20, Liiga, Liiga J20, NL, CHL, USHL, Czech league etc. Very believable
You sound like someone who hasn't watched him at all and has to make up a story to be able to comment on him, since you can't speak directly to his actual play.

You also have to take into consideration what the coach is asking the player to do. Your simplistic way of thinking about prospects seem to be leading you to inaccurate assessments.
 
Ok, so you guys watch MHL games? Just interested, do you watch SHL, KHL, Liiga, NL, SHL j20, Liiga J20?

Yes. SHL, KHL, Liiga, NL more regularly than either J20 mostly due to availability, as well as CHL, USHL, NCAA and AHL games. The beauty of the MHL and VHL feeds on YouTube is being able to access them at any time. If there is a point where other leagues haven’t started their game or for me late afternoon where the NL games have ended by the NA leagues haven’t started for the evening, they fit in.
 
Yes. SHL, KHL, Liiga, NL more regularly than either J20 mostly due to availability, as well as CHL, USHL, NCAA and AHL games. The beauty of the MHL and VHL feeds on YouTube is being able to access them at any time. If there is a point where other leagues haven’t started their game or for me late afternoon where the NL games have ended by the NA leagues haven’t started for the evening, they fit in.
You have lots of spare time man, happy for you I guess
 
You sound like someone who hasn't watched him at all and has to make up a story to be able to comment on him, since you can't speak directly to his actual play.

You also have to take into consideration what the coach is asking the player to do. Your simplistic way of thinking about prospects seem to be leading you to inaccurate assessments.
What exactly is an inaccurate assessment here hahahaha That I don't think that "best defensive player in the draft" claim is warranted?
 
You have lots of spare time man, happy for you I guess
I like how you first accuse people of not watching, and then when they say they have, you turn around and try and shame them for it. Almost like you have no intention of having an actual discussion because you don’t have a real argument. Almost like you’re full of crap, or something.
 
I like how you first accuse people of not watching, and then when they say they have, you turn around and try and shame them for it. Almost like you have no intention of having an actual discussion because you don’t have a real argument. Almost like you’re full of crap, or something.
Hard to watch many games when clown makeup takes so long to apply.
 
I like how you first accuse people of not watching, and then when they say they have, you turn around and try and shame them for it. Almost like you have no intention of having an actual discussion because you don’t have a real argument. Almost like you’re full of crap, or something.
Seems like I hit a nerve hahahaha

This forum is full of people who claim that they watch all junior hockey in the World, but yeah, I have hard time believing that

But yeah, aside from the funny fluff

Thesis

-playing in MHL is not a good ground for analysis, it is a low level, I know, I have seen plenty of it in the past.
-best ground to evaluate a certain prospect is when he plays strong competition
-Simashev played very little against strong competition this season, because due to SMO, Russia is banned from international tournaments (not just WjC but also Hlinka and U18 eurotour) and he wasn't good enough to make KHL roster(for the record, it is not an attack on him, fact that he played 18 games even in limited role makes him a valid candidate for at least 3rd round
-So, essentially, he is a bit of a cat in a bag, hard to evaluate how good he really is, but the "best defensive player" hype is unwarranted due to reasons I listed above.

Thats the argument, I am not interested in discussing his gap control or backwards skating. He played against MHL competition, which is just not very good period.
 
I appreciate you trying to take a shot at someone whose circumstances you don't know anything about in a thread about a player who it seems you also don't know anything about. It shows consistency

I can play a smart*ss but let's just set smth straight first, how do you rate Simashev, is he the best defensive player in the draft, is he top 5 def this year, maybe top 3?
 

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