LD Aron Kiviharju - IFK Helsinki, Liiga (2024, 122nd, MIN) Part2

[Albatros]

A loan deal to Mestis would seem more likely, in juniors there are other players that need the ice time.

Minnesota had no option to sign him and send him to the CHL, if they signed him the only options would have been either to keep him or send him back to HIFK.

 

[ChicagoBullsFan]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1836439937618424300

Look what Kiviharju is doing this mistake cost a goal for HIFK.
Kiviharju is number 33 that other guy is Petteri Lindbohm former NHL dman.

 

[ChicagoBullsFan]

A loan deal to Mestis would seem more likely, in juniors there are other players that need the ice time.

Minnesota had no option to sign him and send him to the CHL, if they signed him the only options would have been either to keep him or send him back to HIFK.

That's bullshit and you know it.
If Minnesota wild would've signed Kiviharju with ELC
wild would've got full rights to decide where Kiviharju plays this season
and that would've made CHL and Moncton strong option instead of HIFK.

NHL's ELC rookie contract terminates SM liiga contract.

 

[Albatros]

That is incorrect, as per the transfer agreement players not drafted in the 1st round can either play in the NHL or for the European team that held the rights before the signing of the ELC.

The European team can in principle waive their rights, but the NHL team can not compensate them in any way for it as that would count as cap circumvention in the NHL.

Given that Kiviharju played for another team (TPS) within the time period relevant for calculating the transfer compensation, it would make little sense for HIFK to release him early if they lose one year worth of compensation that way and his salary in Finland is presumably not very high.

 

[ChicagoBullsFan]

Scored his first 2024-2025 regular season goal vs Rauman Lukko yesterday.
Edit. Kiviharju's goal vs Lukko.

 

[Svedu]

So tell us, how has he looked so far? How did he look against Kärpät tonight? I assume I' ll get an answer after the game.
Is he a lock for the WJC's? Because he's no shutdown defender by any means.

 

[57special]

He's the next Lane Hutson.

 

[wetcoast]

He's the next Lane Hutson.

More like Topi Niemela or Ville Heinola and that's a good outcome.

 

[Albatros]

If he can still shake off his injuries his ceiling is a lot higher than Niemelä's or Heinola's.

 

[Antiillafire]

More like Topi Niemela or Ville Heinola and that's a good outcome.

I fear this could also be the case for Luka Radivojevic. I would love to be wrong for a Slovak mobile d-man like that but still draft season not a great start.

 

[Jersey Fan 12]

Scored his first 2024-2025 regular season goal vs Rauman Lukko yesterday.
Edit. Kiviharju's goal vs Lukko.

Koff? Not Lapin Kulta but the good old days in Finland.

 

[Jersey Fan 12]

One goal in 10 games for the league's second-place team. Not unusual for a teenager to have a limited role with HIFK.

The team's leading scorer among defenseman Luke Martin, a 26-year-old former 2nd round pick of the Hurricanes, played for the University of Michigan and then split time between the ECHL and AHL before heading to Finland last season.

The team also has frequent Team Finland member Tony Sund. Sund was signed by the Sharks during the pandemic but never played in North America.

 

[Leafshater67]

I think he should have came over to play in the CHL honestly.

 

[57special]

I think he should have came over to play in the CHL honestly.

Kumpulainen did, and went back to Finland this year. He clearly feels different than you. Liiga gets dumped on, but a decent Pro men's league trumps a junior league, especially once you throw in factors like language, culture, and travel.

 

[Leafshater67]

Kumpulainen did, and went back to Finland this year. He clearly feels different than you. Liiga gets dumped on, but a decent Pro men's league trumps a junior league, especially once you throw in factors like language, culture, and travel.

He’s going to have to learn the language, culture and travel sooner than later. Also, he would get to be a star and play the North American game instead of getting limited and sheltered minutes. It would be a good bridge for him to grow against players his own age and then go off to the AHL when he’s ready.

 

[57special]

He’s going to have to learn the language, culture and travel sooner than later. Also, he would get to be a star and play the North American game instead of getting limited and sheltered minutes. It would be a good bridge for him to grow against players his own age and then go off to the AHL when he’s ready.

You think he needs to learn the Canadian Junior hockey culture?