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Gaylord Q Tinkledink

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Roy was ok. If he isn't engaged offensively he is pretty much invisible. I am not as high on this player as many on here are.
This is what I've noticed, too and felt the Habs actually got it right sending him down.

He's gotta learn to do other things as at the NHL level he doesn't have the skill to float around for a lot of the game..
 

schwang26

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This is what I've noticed, too and felt the Habs actually got it right sending him down.

He's gotta learn to do other things as at the NHL level he doesn't have the skill to float around for a lot of the game..
In fairness, I have seen him engaged. Remember the juniors? He can play that kind of game.
 

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This is what I've noticed, too and felt the Habs actually got it right sending him down.

He's gotta learn to do other things as at the NHL level he doesn't have the skill to float around for a lot of the game..
After @Mrb1p suggested in a game last year to just focus on Roy and not the rest of the play, I did do that. I could see him make a ton of really smart little plays, especially in the offensive zone, that should make his teammates better. He also has a great shot which should help him score goals. Great offensive instincts too. I can totally get while people think if he can build around those things he could be a good NHLer.

The problem is it's not a quick wave of the wand to be able to build around these things. He's not a finished product yet, but based on the many prospects I've saw drafted in my lifetime, he's probably at a part of his development rate is starting to slowing down.

I hope this year he spends most of his time in Laval, and maybe gets some more time in the NHL towards the season, and that he has a big off season and shows up to camp next year and performs in a way where he convincingly makes the team. Because if he can build the rest of his game up around his current strengths, he could be a great middle-6 player.
 

EveryDay

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I wish they would try Tuch in a top6 role alongside Beck and Davidson. When I watch Washington games, Tuch remind me of Protas.
 
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The Real Timo

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This will be a much better game to watch compared to what we witnessed last night.
They really need to start having these games on RDS instead of Habs. At least team competes, wins, fights, stands up for each other... A complete opposite of the "big" club.
 

schwang26

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After @Mrb1p suggested in a game last year to just focus on Roy and not the rest of the play, I did do that. I could see him make a ton of really smart little plays, especially in the offensive zone, that should make his teammates better. He also has a great shot which should help him score goals. Great offensive instincts too. I can totally get while people think if he can build around those things he could be a good NHLer.

The problem is it's not a quick wave of the wand to be able to build around these things. He's not a finished product yet, but based on the many prospects I've saw drafted in my lifetime, he's probably at a part of his development rate is starting to slowing down.

I hope this year he spends most of his time in Laval, and maybe gets some more time in the NHL towards the season, and that he has a big off season and shows up to camp next year and performs in a way where he convincingly makes the team. Because if he can build the rest of his game up around his current strengths, he could be a great middle-6 player.
Absolutely. And this is why I hate when people say “call a guy up” because he scores a couple goals in Laval. Show some sustained success at the ahl level first. A few games doesn’t equate to a good season. Calling up Roy, Mailloux, ABB, Tuch, whoever won’t do squat to change things and in fact, it would probably make matters worse. If our prospect pool is so good, then we should have close to a championship team. Let’s see that happen this year and next.

This will be a much better game to watch compared to what we witnessed last night.
They really need to start having these games on RDS instead of Habs. At least team competes, wins, fights, stands up for each other... A complete opposite of the "big" club.
I’ve been more involved watching Laval games the past 3 years, that’s for sure!
 
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Rapala

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Roy was ok. If he isn't engaged offensively he is pretty much invisible. I am not as high on this player as many on here are.
His coach pretty much told him what he has to do to get back to the NHL.
It had nothing to do with his skating and everything to do with his engagement.
Guts and determination and blocking shots.
 

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Roy was ok. If he isn't engaged offensively he is pretty much invisible. I am not as high on this player as many on here are.
If Roy had an appointment with greatness, he probably wouldn’t show up and he’d claim he knew nothing about it. 💀
 

ChesterNimitz

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It's surprising that Hayes is not back in the lineup.
I usually don't comment on the 'veteran' players in my summaries, but the Laval veterans in the last game were woeful and were outplayed, and outplayed by a wide margin, by the 3 prospects in the line-up ( Mailloux, Engstrom and Trudeau).
 
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26Mats

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I usually don't comment on the 'veteran' players in my summaries, but the Laval veterans in the last game were woeful and were outplayed, and outplayed by a wide margin, by the 3 prospects in the line-up ( Mailloux, Engstrom and Trudeau).

How has Engsteom been defensively?
 

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This is what I've noticed, too and felt the Habs actually got it right sending him down.

He's gotta learn to do other things as at the NHL level he doesn't have the skill to float around for a lot of the game..
My concern with him is he lacks situational awareness. He has the skill, so he puts up points when it works, but I find he too often forces plays leading to turnovers. This especially when playing the point on the PP.
 

EveryDay

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I usually don't comment on the 'veteran' players in my summaries, but the Laval veterans in the last game were woeful and were outplayed, and outplayed by a wide margin, by the 3 prospects in the line-up ( Mailloux, Engstrom and Trudeau).
That's what I saw as well. Lindstrom and Jacobs were bad last game, no ideas why Hayes is not drawing in even though he's another LD.
 

ChesterNimitz

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How has Engsteom been defensively?
Its not his strength, but his mobility makes his defensive game more than adequate for AHL level competition.

Is it adequate for the NHL? Now that’s the question. Right now: no. Like many young players, Engstrom needs to be more consistent. For example, against Rochester, he was the best player on the ice in the first period. Much less so the rest of the game. But he’s got the tools. And he has the potential. So let’s wait until the new year to see if he can start better adapting to the North American style game.

I think he will be just fine.
 
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