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I am sensing you're slowly joining the fan club :laugh:

If he was playing regularly on the PP he would be above PPG, im sure of it.

I have never been against Mesar and wish he was the superstar you have in your head.

All I did was express doubt at your evaluations of him, and so far I've been closer to the reality.

I still think he can be a valuable NHL player. However, the chances it is with the Habs are diminishing as the wings fill up.
 
barre boulet, y est tu poche lui?

if any one is watching the game, tell me im not the only one thinking ABB stinks

Your prediction of 3 points was right, just not for Mesar. It was your favorites Dauphin and ABB instead. :naughty:

They are now leadings the team with 28 and 32 points respectively.
 
Your prediction of 3 points was right, just not for Mesar. It was your favorites Dauphin and ABB instead. :naughty:

They are now leadings the team with 28 and 32 points respectively.

yep.. they do.. however i saw Boulet just completly give up on a play and back check slower than a turtle

These guys have zero future.. no idea what they're doing there
 
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I have never been against Mesar and wish he was the superstar you have in your head.

All I did was express doubt at your evaluations of him, and so far I've been closer to the reality.

I still think he can be a valuable NHL player. However, the chances it is with the Habs are diminishing as the wings fill up.

I cant say i was super impressed with Mesar's game today but i dont think we can fairly assess his progress if he's being constantly held back.

Although i like Beck, he's got no business being the guy on the 1st PP.

This is just mediocre coaching in my opinion. You can say thats how NA hockey is played but i think there's immaturity in the philosophy.
 
After the insane start Mailloux had and then he basically disappeared, it tells me that perhaps he has been playing hurt because the past 5 games his play has been elevated and his skating is much better. He has been dominant the past few games.
 
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They're vets. All AHL teams have vets. They were not signed to make the NHL in the long term.
Weren’t some people giddy with excitement when ABB was signed because they thought he would play a role on the big club?
 
Weren’t some people giddy with excitement when ABB was signed because they thought he would play a role on the big club?

I dissagreed with those people. He was brought in as a premium AHL vet and while he's not as dominant as I wanted/expected him to be, he's still on pace (63) for the 3rd best offensive season in Laval's history behind Richard (67) and Terry (71).
 
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8 wins in our last 9 games!!!

3th win in a row!!!
I watched the game and can say, that Laval played a good road game and was the superior team over several stretches of the game. But for their lack of finish, the Rockets win by several goals. The production quality of the game was abysmal. The camera was constantly behind the play, the return from commercial breaks was often delayed, the camera angles made watching frustrating and the telecast actually missed Laval's second goal. It was like they used a local high school A/V class to produce the game.

On a more positive note most our prospects had reasonable performances.

I again thought that Beck had a less than a stellar performance. While Beck continued to show his great speed both on the forecheck and backcheck, was physical and made several excellent passes that created scoring chances for his linemates, he was again not productive offensively. For the second game in a row, I didn't see Beck carry the puck and drive the play. He was also very ineffective on face-offs.

After a couple of games where he was noticeable offensively, Farrell was largely invisible last night. He created very little offensively and didn't pursue the puck with the same vigor that made him a factor over the recent games.

I thought Mesar had a good game as he displayed increased speed and strength to match his excellent offensive skills. Mesar also got his nose dirty in the defensive zone. Mesar has all the skills to make the NHL. It's now all question whether he can get stronger and faster to be effective at the next level.

After an off game for him, Davidson played his usual hard skating and physical game. Davidson showed the speed, offensive vision and the physicality that has become the hallmark of his game. Davidson was responsible in the defensive zone and was often first on loose pucks. Unless the unexpected happens (major injury, etc.) this kid is playing in the NHL. Maybe even as early as later this season.

In this writer's opinion, Kidney was one of our more noticeable prospects in this game. This kid's skating and strength on the ice have really improved. Kidney rarely takes a shift off, forechecks like a demon and displays a high level of play making. Kidney set up several teammates for what should have been sure goals last night. I know some here will scoff, but if this kid's development continues at its current trajectory, Kidney is going to play in the NHL before some of our more heralded prospects. This kid looked really good last night.

Tuch, while showing spurts of his NHL level skating/speed and often being the first on loose pucks and strong on the backcheck, didn't create much offence. With his level of skating one would assume (hope) that he would be able to initiate some offensive push. It hasn't happened for the last two games. It may have something to do with Tuch's usage. Last night, Tuch played with Xhekaj and Arsenault, two players who really are step or more behind Tuch in skating ability. Arsenault, in particular, had a woeful game, taking an unneeded penalty and turning over the puck numerous times. I would love to see what Tuch could do with quicker, more talented linemates.

Florian Xhekaj had a modest game. He played in most game situations (penalty killing, 4 on 4 and even a short stint on the power play), showing the coaching staff's growing confidence in the state of this young player's development. Xhekaj played his usual game: physical, hard on the forecheck and establishing a good net presence. Similarly to Tuch and Beck, Xhekaj other than making a few clever passes, created little offence.

Mallioux was clearly one of the better players (for both teams) in last nights game. Mailloux played with greater confidence showing excellent vision in the offensive zone and made a number of excellent stretch passes that sprung Laval forwards leading to offensive chances. His first, stretch passing ability is as good as any NHL defenceman. This kid when looking for an outlet streaking down the ice looks like Mahomes in the pocket surveying the field. Mailloux was even steady defensively making few noticeable errors. The one time he did allow a Bruin forward to get behind him, Mailloux was able to catch the player from behind and strip the puck away. But it was Mailloux's offensive presence that stood out most as he made multiple forays into the offensive zone and made several excellent plays, including one in overtime that created a 2 on 1 that almost resulted in a goal, before the actual goal that Mailloux scored to win the game. Mailloux played in all game situations (power play, penalty killing, 4 on 4 and overtime) which usage signified the coaching staff's recognition of Mailloux's elevated level of play. I still have my doubts whether Mailloux will ever be able to play defence effectively at the NHL level. I have, however, little doubt that Mailloux could play forward (and play effectively) in the NHL.

Engstrom had a strong game , both offensively and defensively, showing his superior mobility and defensive acumen. When he is on his game, Engstrom is a notch above most of the players he is playing against in the AHL. While he still has to get stronger to be more effective playing the North American game, Engstrom has the skills, skating and hockey IQ to play at the next level.

Struble had a much better game against Providence than he had in his first game after being 'demoted' to Laval. He was mobile and physical and was largely a rock in the defensive zone. While Struble is already an NHL level defencemen as he showed in his play last night, he will gain more playing huge minutes in Laval than being the seventh defenceman sitting and watching from the gallery in Montreal.
 
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I watched the game and can say, that Laval played a good road game and was the superior team over several stretches of the game. But for their lack of finish, the Rockets win by several goals. The production quality of the game was abysmal. The camera was constantly behind the play, the return from commercial breaks was often delayed, the camera angles made watching frustrating and the telecast actually missed Laval's second goal. It was like they used a local high school A/V class to produce the game.

On a more positive note most our prospects had reasonable performances.

I again thought that Beck had a less than a stellar performance. While Beck continued to show his great speed both on the forecheck and backcheck, was physical and made several excellent passes that created scoring chances for his linemates, he was again not productive offensively. For the second game in a row, I didn't see Beck carry the puck and drive the play. He was also very ineffective on face-offs.

After a couple of games where he was noticeable offensively, Farrell was largely invisible last night. He created very little offensively and didn't pursue the puck with the same vigor that made him a factor over the recent games.

I thought Mesar had a good game as he displayed increased speed and strength to match his excellent offensive skills. Mesar also got his nose dirty in the defensive zone. Mesar has all the skills to make the NHL. It's now all question whether he can get stronger and faster to be effective at the next level.

After an off game for him, Davidson played his usual hard skating and physical game. Davidson showed the speed, offensive vision and the physicality that has become the hallmark of his game. Davidson was responsible in the defensive zone and was often first on loose pucks. Unless the unexpected happens (major injury, etc.) this kid is playing in the NHL. Maybe even as early as later this season.

In this writer's opinion, Kidney was one of our more noticeable prospects in this game. This kid's skating and strength on the ice have really improved. Kidney rarely takes a shift off, forechecks like a demon and displays a high level of play making. Kidney set up several teammates for what should have been sure goals last night. I know some here will scoff, but if this kid's development continues at its current trajectory, Kidney is going to play in the NHL before some of our more heralded prospects. This kid looked really good last night.

Tuch while showing spurts of his NHL level skating/speed and often being the first on loose pucks and strong on the backcheck, didn't create much offence. With his level of skating one would assume (hope) that he would be able to initiate some offensive push. It hasn't happened for the last two games. It may have something to do with Tuch's usage. Last night, Tuch played with Xhekaj and Arsenault, two players who really are step or more behind Tuch in skating ability. Arsenault, in particular, had a woeful game, taking an unneeded penalty and turning over the puck numerous times. I would love to see what Tuch could do with quicker, more talented linemates.

Florian Xhekaj had a modest game. He played in most game situations (penalty killing, 4 on 4 and even a short stint on the power play), showing the coaching staff's growing confidence in the state of this young player's development. Xhekaj played his usual game: physical, hard on the forecheck and establishing a good net presence. Similarly to Tuch and Beck, Xhekaj other than making a few clever passes, created little offence.

Mallioux was clearly one of the better players (for both teams) in last nights game. Mailloux played with greater confidence showing excellent vision in the offensive zone and made a number of excellent stretch passes that sprung Laval forwards leading to offensive chances. His first, stretch passing ability is as good as any NHL defenceman. This kid when looking for an outlet streaking down the ice looks like Mahomes in the pocket surveying the field. Mailloux was even steady defensively making few noticeable errors. The one time he did allow a Bruin forward to get behind him, Mailloux was able to catch the player from behind and strip the puck away. But it was Mailloux's offensive presence that stood out most as he made multiple forays into the offensive zone and made several excellent plays, including one in overtime that created a 2 on 1 that almost resulted in a goal, before the actual goal that Mailloux scored to win the game. Mailloux played in all game situations (power play, penalty killing, 4 on 4 and overtime) which usage signified the coaching staff's recognition of Mailloux's elevated level of play. I still have my doubts whether Mailloux will ever be able to play defence effectively at the NHL level. I have, however, little doubt that Mailloux could play forward (and play effectively) in the NHL.

Engstrom had a strong game , both offensively and defensively, showing his superior mobility and defensive acumen. When he is on his game, Engstrom is a notch above most of the players he is playing against in the AHL. While he still has to get stronger to be more effective playing the North American game, Engstrom has the skills, skating and hockey IQ to play at the next level.

Struble had a much better game against Providence than he had in his first game after being 'demoted' to Laval. He was mobile and physical and was largely a rock in the defensive zone. While Struble is already an NHL level defencemen as he showed in his play last night, he will gain more playing huge minutes in Laval than being the seventh defenceman sitting and watching from the gallery in Montreal.
You watched on TV? Or you watched live at Place Bell?
 
Beck needs to start getting more consistent winning face offs. He's squared off against most of these guys more than once and now has to find answers to the players who are giving him problems. I don't know what Marc Bureau is doing but I really hope we are keeping logs regarding to whom and how we are losing so many draws.
 
I had a frickin ad come on during the ot winner! How the hell does that happen?
I watched Primeau doing some gardening in his crease as the Barre Boulet goal was scored off the draw.
This coming the game after I complained about that very thing. Mind you RDS does it sometimes too I just find it STUPID when it's an end zone face off.

You watched on TV? Or you watched live at Place Bell?
This would have been our Admiral if he was at Place Bell.

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I watched Primeau doing some gardening in his crease as the Barre Boulet goal was scored off the draw.
This coming the game after I complained about that very thing. Mind you RDS does it sometimes too I just find it STUPID when it's an end zone face off.


This would have been our Admiral if he was at Place Bell.

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How many times was the camera focused on the penalty box while the play was going on as well? It was brutal. It must be a local camera person I’m assuming. They need to be fired. That was the worst overall feed I’ve watched yet. The quality is worse in Belleville, but they missed a good portion of the play.
 
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I cant say i was super impressed with Mesar's game today but i dont think we can fairly assess his progress if he's being constantly held back.

Although i like Beck, he's got no business being the guy on the 1st PP.

This is just mediocre coaching in my opinion. You can say thats how NA hockey is played but i think there's immaturity in the philosophy.
No. The coach is there to try as many combinations to tests each ones skills and potential. This is AHL. It's there to develop, first and above all.
 
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Beck needs to start getting more consistent winning face offs. He's squared off against most of these guys more than once and now has to find answers to the players who are giving him problems. I don't know what Marc Bureau is doing but I really hope we are keeping logs regarding to whom and how we are losing so many draws.
I thought that was a strength of his?
 
No. The coach is there to try as many combinations to tests each ones skills and potential. This is AHL. It's there to develop, first and above all.
People bitch when they lose. They bitch because the top 6 isn’t filled with prospects. They bitch because Mesar hasn’t looked great. The team is tops in the league, with prospects having excellent contributions! As expected, it’s 2 vets leading the way! What more do people want ffs?
 
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No. The coach is there to try as many combinations to tests each ones skills and potential. This is AHL. It's there to develop, first and above all.

You dont watch the games but they're not trying to develop Mesar, they're trying to make him fit into a mold he's not suited for and we will regret it because he's losing the qualities that made him a 1st round pick to begin with.

In my opinion, this is them trying to teach him a lesson or maybe punish him for having no filter with the media.

I have seen this happen with other sports, guys make some rookie mistakes that challenges the "authority" and they're punished for it and served as examples. Super dumb but its the reality of sports business.

The thing is, he's not doing all that woerst than Beck, the difference is Beck is on the first PP and is barely doing better. Everyone knows that Mesar is alot more skillful than most of the AHL roster and the PP would be much more productive if he was on it. But he's not.... why? only god knows
 
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I thought that was a strength of his?
It is which is why it's imperative that he become more consistent. Beck's struggles have been noted in quite a few games this season. It's not unexpected and it's what I'm referring to there is a learning curve going from the CHL to the AHL. There are certain players Beck has damn near blanked against this has to be corrected.
 

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