Confirmed with Link: Laughton 50 Retention A 4th and A 6th to the Leafs for A Conditional 2027 1st Round Pick and Nikita Grebenkin

[Ianturnedbull]

Does this guy even wanna be here?

 

[MilkofthePoppy]

Yawn.

 

[The Shadow]

Scotty ‘it’s too early to judge’ Laughton

 

[Maple Leaf]

So bad that can only go up from here

 

[Namikaze Minato]

So bad that can only go up from here

"The gang trades away the first overall pick"

 

[Tie Domi Esquire]

Does this guy even wanna be here?

With how much it's being over reported that he wants to be here, I think it's the opposite.

He looked like Matthews in the playoffs when they pranked him with a Leafs trade a year or two ago.

 

[fahad203]

He's a decent player and will be valuable in my opinion. I think maybe he's still trying to do too much
He just needs to simplify his game and not worry about being a hero a difference maker

 

[arso40]

Not a bruiser though. Closer to a Tyler Bertuzzi as an antagonist than a true heavy.

Bert is heavy though that’s the difference

 

[Gabriel426]

Would be epic if he scores a goal in TO and the song is Scotty doesn’t know

 

[Stephen]

Bert is heavy though that’s the difference

Bert’s scrawny. Tyler Bertuzzi.

 

[ruaware41]

Easy to say in hindsight honestly, and like I said earlier. It hasn’t had an ideal start but let’s see how he does in the playoffs. If he’s contributing and helping us win when it matters, no one will care what the price was

Additionally I don’t think GM’s really think of a protected first two years away as insane value IMO at the same value we as fans do. It was a gamble move for sure, jury is still out.

Honestly it was easy to say with foresight as well. We traded all that for a worse kerfoot

 

[Ianturnedbull]

Leaf fan here. I come in peace...

 

[Skullz]

I'm confused as to why we aren't trying him more at centre. If we want him to play 3C, he need's to get runway there. If we don't, why on earth did we not target a more upside winger?

Boeser, Rakell... likely could have been had for close to what we gave up.

Asinine in both cases. Hope he turns it around.

 

[Puckstuff]

Remember how rough Bertuzzi's first 40 games were after we acquired him?

Remember how bad Domi looked last year before we paired him with Matthews, and again this year?

Remember how Robertson struggles (and still does) when he's playing with grinders or cycle guys like Tavares?

The truth is, these bottom-six guys need chemistry to thrive. You can't just throw them on lines with players that don’t complement their style and expect them to produce.

I've said it and I'll keep saying it:

Laughton needs to play with other grinders and cycle type players like Pacioretty and Tavares, or be with a line driver like Nylander or Marner.

Domi needs to have some skill around him—ideally guys that can score to get the most out of him like someone like Nylander or Matthews. And ideally he's on the wing not center.

And Robertson needs to be with skilled, fast players like Domi and Nylander.

Our lines need to adjust for the total sum of the team, not just a few players

I wish we had some Coleman types that could do it on their own, but if you want those types, you're looking at paying around $5 million, which is too rich for our 3rd line.

 

[LeafEgo]

I'm confused as to why we aren't trying him more at centre. If we want him to play 3C, he need's to get runway there. If we don't, why on earth did we not target a more upside winger?

Boeser, Rakell... likely could have been had for close to what we gave up.

Asinine in both cases. Hope he turns it around.

It's very suspect and there's a pattern as well. Willy at C, Domi with Matty, Rielly with Tanev, Lilly one game, splitting the three amigos. Now Laughton for the purposes he was acquired.

Outside shot that Chief is just that good at sizing things up immediately, but I'm leaning towards him having a personnel weakness.

He would have (should have) been part of the decision to bring in very expensive Laughton to play 3C, because, you know, it was a determined requirement to win? So what gives..

Early signs of broken management, either planning/communication or execution. Not good.

 

[arso40]

Bert’s scrawny. Tyler Bertuzzi.

He plays heavy is what I mean he plays above his weight for sure

 

[arso40]

Remember how rough Bertuzzi's first 40 games were after we acquired him?

Remember how bad Domi looked last year before we paired him with Matthews, and again this year?

Remember how Robertson struggles (and still does) when he's playing with grinders or cycle guys like Tavares?

The truth is, these bottom-six guys need chemistry to thrive. You can't just throw them on lines with players that don’t complement their style and expect them to produce.

I've said it and I'll keep saying it:

Laughton needs to play with other grinders and cycle type players like Pacioretty and Tavares, or be with a line driver like Nylander or Marner.

Domi needs to have some skill around him—ideally guys that can score to get the most out of him like someone like Nylander or Matthews. And ideally he's on the wing not center.

And Robertson needs to be with skilled, fast players like Domi and Nylander.

Our lines to adjust for the total sum of the team, not just a few playersrs.

I wish we had some Coleman types that could do it on their own, but if you want those types, you're looking at paying around $5 million, which is too rich for our 3rd line.

Bertuzzi started looking good when he got put on l2

 

[thusk]

Remember how rough Bertuzzi's first 40 games were after we acquired him?

Remember how bad Domi looked last year before we paired him with Matthews, and again this year?

Remember how Robertson struggles (and still does) when he's playing with grinders or cycle guys like Tavares?

The truth is, these bottom-six guys need chemistry to thrive. You can't just throw them on lines with players that don’t complement their style and expect them to produce.

I've said it and I'll keep saying it:

Laughton needs to play with other grinders and cycle type players like Pacioretty and Tavares, or be with a line driver like Nylander or Marner.

Domi needs to have some skill around him—ideally guys that can score to get the most out of him like someone like Nylander or Matthews. And ideally he's on the wing not center.

And Robertson needs to be with skilled, fast players like Domi and Nylander.

Our lines to adjust for the total sum of the team, not just a few playersrs.

I wish we had some Coleman types that could do it on their own, but if you want those types, you're looking at paying around $5 million, which is too rich for our 3rd line.

Domi was actually in top 3 in pts at 5v5/60 played before playing with Matthews... Just like that..

But overall i'm completly agree

and even Coleman was pretty bad when he been traded in Tampa

 

[Stephen]

Remember how rough Bertuzzi's first 40 games were after we acquired him?

Remember how bad Domi looked last year before we paired him with Matthews, and again this year?

Remember how Robertson struggles (and still does) when he's playing with grinders or cycle guys like Tavares?

The truth is, these bottom-six guys need chemistry to thrive. You can't just throw them on lines with players that don’t complement their style and expect them to produce.

I've said it and I'll keep saying it:

Laughton needs to play with other grinders and cycle type players like Pacioretty and Tavares, or be with a line driver like Nylander or Marner.

Domi needs to have some skill around him—ideally guys that can score to get the most out of him like someone like Nylander or Matthews. And ideally he's on the wing not center.

And Robertson needs to be with skilled, fast players like Domi and Nylander.

Our lines need to adjust for the total sum of the team, not just a few players

I wish we had some Coleman types that could do it on their own, but if you want those types, you're looking at paying around $5 million, which is too rich for our 3rd line.

I think the takeaway is don’t overpay for this kind of player. If you’re trading for a top 6 and spreading out more skill throughout the top 9 and able to mix and match, great. But a specific 3C target… gonna end in tears the way Plekanec, Boyle did. Except we paid more.

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

 

[JT AM da real deal]

He played a little better last night but his skating is still a major issue .. we thought we were getting a 3C but reality we have at best a 3LW or a 4C .. again da Flyers took us to da woodshed and gave us a bad beat here on this trade

 

[Da Mash]

Leafs are a slow team. Mathews has lost a step and it shows.

We used to be a team that could skate and use our speed in transition.

Now every game it seems we are always the slower team. Ottawa won’t be a good matchup for us IMHO

We matchup better with Tampa but they have the hottest goalie and we all know that goalies can win you a series and a cup

 

[JT AM da real deal]

Leafs are a slow team. Mathews has lost a step and it shows.

We used to be a team that could skate and use our speed in transition.

Now every game it seems we are always the slower team. Ottawa won’t be a good matchup for us IMHO

We matchup better with Tampa but they have the hottest goalie and we all know that goalies can win you a series and a cup

We can't have our best player get that badly outskated by an 18 year old Cellebrini .. sorry not captain material .. he freakin knows he got badly outplayed .. and everyone who watched like me saw it .. but he deflects his personal crappy effort to team .. not captain material

 

[Da Mash]

We can't have our best player get that badly outskated by an 18 year old Cellebrini .. sorry not captain material .. he freakin knows he got badly outplayed .. and everyone who watched like me saw it .. but he deflects his personal crappy effort to team .. not captain material

I think he has a serious lingering issue with his back or hip. Mathews doesn’t have the explosive anymore and that was his saving grace because he was never a fast skater.

Something is going on and IMHO may never get better. Unless he is refusing surgery etc but I don’t think he will be the same.

 

[thusk]

Leafs are a slow team. Mathews has lost a step and it shows.

We used to be a team that could skate and use our speed in transition.

Now every game it seems we are always the slower team. Ottawa won’t be a good matchup for us IMHO

We matchup better with Tampa but they have the hottest goalie and we all know that goalies can win you a series and a cup

play fast is more important than be fast and no its not the same thing.

When playoff started and the open space on the ice become tight, its become at the same time hsrder to skate free. What's really matter is how quick did you react and execute play before opposite team have time to adapt.

Best exemple i have... Leafs pp right now, why they have succes? they play much faster than when they did at the beggining of season. When they are trying just just be faster than his opponent in Pp, they still in the outside and created anything but when they play fast. Just leafs 5th goal yesterday is a great exemple of what i explain, they just didn't allowed SJ time to adapt and created disorganisation in D. That's created an open pass to Matthews and SJ started to panic and leafs play fast and used it against SJ.