Latendresse benched again

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deandebean said:
Like I said, he's a solid coach. I don't like his approach. I've seen other types of coaches winning too. Scotty Bowman was an *** in Montreal, but was very likeable in Pittsburgh and in Detroit. He changed, because times have changed.
But he win's. That's all that matters.

I can't believe everyone's willing to overlook all his accomplishments (not to mention being UNDEFEATED so far in WJC play, 10-0) all because he didn't play Latendresse.

deandebean said:
Herb Brooks coached with the Sutter philosophy also and he was a bust in the NHL. Burns could coach 3 seasons before players got tired of his antics. The same is going to happen in Tampa.
But Brent Sutter is still winning.

Brent Sutter, like Darryl, preach accountability. If you arn't accountable for your actions (ie. Latandresse) you don't play. That is Brian Sutter's downfall.

Again, that's all that matters.
 
deandebean said:
That's why there are boards like this one. Imagine if we couldn't comment on some decisions. We'd be drinking Kool-Aid all the time. Wouldn't it be boring?

By the way, Happy New Year, guys.
Good post :biglaugh:
 
Phanuthier said:
But he win's. That's all that matters.

I can't believe everyone's willing to overlook all his accomplishments (not to mention being UNDEFEATED so far in WJC play, 10-0) all because he didn't play Latendresse.


But Brent Sutter is still winning

Again, that's all that matters.


What can I say if not: you're right!

Ok, so aren't you tired of the arrogance of Rusky fans on this board? Just asking...
 
deandebean said:
What can I say if not:
Well... we could talk about how Latandresse should play better instead of blaming Latendresse. He was given 3 chances, and didn't step up to the challenge.
 
Phanuthier said:
Well... we could talk about how Latandresse should play better instead of blaming Latendresse. He was given 3 chances, and didn't step up to the challenge.


Granted, he was lousy in the first 2 games. After that, he had some pretty decent shifts at the end of the 2nd period against Norway. In the 3rd, had a scoring chance (or sort of...), but his linemates were nowhere to be seen.

Tonight, well people tell me he was good with the bottles.
 
I just wanted to say, I have nothing against Latandresse. Power forwards are inconsistant, that is all but a fact. Big players take longer to develop and learn how to use their bodies. Lantendresse should be a good player for the Habs, but that doesn't take away from the fact that he's not playing well, so he sits.
 
Phanuthier said:
I just wanted to say, I have nothing against Latandresse. Power forwards are inconsistant, that is all but a fact. Big players take longer to develop and learn how to use their bodies. Lantendresse should be a good player for the Habs, but that doesn't take away from the fact that he's not playing well, so he sits.

By you trying to have the last word, I can't go to bed. In case you don't know, it's like 1 h 42 in the East. I need my pillow.
 
Phanuthier said:
But he win's. That's all that matters.

I can't believe everyone's willing to overlook all his accomplishments (not to mention being UNDEFEATED so far in WJC play, 10-0) all because he didn't play Latendresse.


But Brent Sutter is still winning.

Brent Sutter, like Darryl, preach accountability. If you arn't accountable for your actions (ie. Latandresse) you don't play. That is Brian Sutter's downfall.

Again, that's all that matters.

Is winning all that matters? Player development doesn't matter? The fact that Gui has not walked away from the team and instead waits patiently for the tap on the shoulder is a measure of character. I'm not sure I'd have been able to stomach that. Indeed I do expect that his Jr team must be thinking "Holy hell, we gave this guy to Canada for a month and he doesn't play. We should have kept him here."
 
WEEB said:
This is pretty easy to answer.

Guillaume Latendresse is being benched because he comes from Sainte-Catherine, Quebec.

If his name was Steve Smith, from Red Deer, Alberta, he would get his fair chance. He doesn't even get the chance to play bad, Sutter just benches him, using him as an exemple for all of the team who has been playing pretty bad.

To all those who drink the TSN-Pierre McGwire Kool-Aid, Sutter is NOT that good of a coach. If he isn't in the NHL, it's for a good reason: Yes, his "no-BS" way may work with 18-year-old kids, but it would never work in the pro ranks. Also, his type of goon hockey is great for a short tourney playing against mostly inferior opponents that are not used to such physical play, but it would never fly elsewhere.

I agree with pretty much everything you said. I also think coaching last years Gold medal team was about the easiest job in the World, my little sister could have coached last years team and they would have still won.
 
Latendresse is not playing good right now, who cares what he has done in the past. Right now when I watch him play I wonder how he made this team. Who's ice time do you take away hoping he feels like playing. If I am Sutter I don't take that chance, maybe if I am down by three going into the third but not in a close game.
 
Guillaume should work harder in the practice! With coach Sutter if you work hard you will earn ice time! Latendresse isn't working hard enough!

We can't complain about Sutter he is winning! I agree with all his decisions!
 
macleafs said:
Latendresse is not playing good right now, who cares what he has done in the past. Right now when I watch him play I wonder how he made this team. Who's ice time do you take away hoping he feels like playing. If I am Sutter I don't take that chance, maybe if I am down by three going into the third but not in a close game.

No way I'd go on the ice if I was Lats in that case. I remember at the under 18's last year Colton Yellowhorn didn't play one shift in the final game and then gets thrown out on the ice in the final minute. He crosses the blueline and gets sent flying head first into the boards and leaves on a stretcher. Well worth it IMO.
 
maxpenguins6630 said:
Guillaume should work harder in the practice! With coach Sutter if you work hard you will earn ice time! Latendresse isn't working hard enough!

We can't complain about Sutter he is winning! I agree with all his decisions!

Maybe some hard working, well placed, shoulder separating, crunching checks on his teammates in practice will earn him some ice-time. ;)

Seriously, throw him out on the PP and see if things get better, they can't really get worse. Take away the first ten minutes of the game when the US was flat footed and the end result is different.
 
loudi94 said:
No way I'd go on the ice if I was Lats in that case. I remember at the under 18's last year Colton Yellowhorn didn't play one shift in the final game and then gets thrown out on the ice in the final minute. He crosses the blueline and gets sent flying head first into the boards and leaves on a stretcher. Well worth it IMO.
That is probally why Lats is not playing, he doesn't think it is worth it.
 
TransportedUpstater said:
Excuse me? Benoit Pouliot is bilingual.

Yeah, about 30 seconds after I made that post I made a quick search on google and said I was wrong, he does speak french as well.

Here's what Latendresse had to say in yesterday's newspaper (Le Journal de Québec ... sorry if my translation of the article sucks)

Title of the article is :

"I didn't have my chance"

Other quotes from Guillaume :

"At this point in the competition, all that matters is the logo in front of the shirt and not my name in the back. When I look at the quality of the players in Team Canada Junior, I don't have any other choice than adopt this attitude "

" No matter how much ice tme I'll get, I'll be the best team player I can be. What my teamates will get, I will also, but, in my wildest dreams, this isn't how I was seeing myself at my first WJC."

"Honestly, I don't think I ever had a real chance"
 
baston said:
Yeah, about 30 seconds after I made that post I made a quick search on google and said I was wrong, he does speak french as well.

Here's what Latendresse had to say in yesterday's newspaper (Le Journal de Québec ... sorry if my translation of the article sucks)

Title of the article is :

"I didn't have my chance"

Other quotes from Guillaume :

"At this point in the competition, all that matters is the logo in front of the shirt and not my name in the back. When I look at the quality of the players in Team Canada Junior, I don't have any other choice than adopt this attitude "

" No matter how much ice tme I'll get, I'll be the best team player I can be. What my teamates will get, I will also, but, in my wildest dreams, this isn't how I was seeing myself at my first WJC."

"Honestly, I don't think I ever had a real chance"


He's saying all the right things at least.
 
loudi94 said:
He's saying all the right things at least.
I like his statement, except the last sentence.
"I never had a chance"?
Sutter preaches very hard work, both in games and practises.
I haven't seen any Team Canada practises, but if Lat isn't playing, chances are he is not giving 100% in practise.
He did have a chance. He just did not rise to the occasion by working his butt off.
Having said that, I think he will see some shifts in the medal round, if he works very hard over the next few practises.
 
loudi94 said:
Is winning all that matters? Player development doesn't matter? The fact that Gui has not walked away from the team and instead waits patiently for the tap on the shoulder is a measure of character. I'm not sure I'd have been able to stomach that. Indeed I do expect that his Jr team must be thinking "Holy hell, we gave this guy to Canada for a month and he doesn't play. We should have kept him here."
In the WJC's player development doesnt matter.

Its all about winning.
 
Oh well, let's just hope Latendresse gets some shift in the finals and bring a GIGANTIC ( :cry: ) performance. I'm sure Sutter will give the kid another chance to prove himself.
 
12# Peter Bondra said:
In the WJC's player development doesnt matter.

Its all about winning.

Do you honestly think Sutter would have left Phaneuf or Fraser on the bench the entire tournament last year if they weren't performing the way he wanted? Development in junior should always be the #1 priority.
 
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