Movies: Last Movie You Watched and Rate It (Part XXVI)

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Just watched "The Warriors" on Netflix.

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It's loosely based on Xenophon's epic, the "Anabasis" where 10,000 Greek soldiers get stuck in Persian territory and have to fight their way out to the sea and back home. Apparently the writer Sol Yurick wrote the novel as a response to the glamorizations of gangs in West Side Story.

It's a really cool concept, a little homo erotic, and almost not at all comparable to present day gangs, but I liked it a lot. It's an interesting story about young men and while it moves quickly it covers a lot of ideas.

8/10

Haha love that movie.

Warriorsssss .... come out to plaaaaay.
 

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Good point, but still a worthwhile commentary on the great director's work. Hopefully that short will encourage more people to see Miyazaki's wonderful movies. Shareefruck, any thoughts as to the order people should start with?
I don't know. I always feel like mapping up an introductory path seems a little patronizing or something. I watched all of them in the order of mass appeal and it didn't really click until I saw the ones that I ended up liking most anyways, so I'm probably not the best to ask about something like "universality".

In order of how much I like them:

(M) = Miyazaki, (T) = Takahata, (O) = Someone other poor sap who has to carry on their legacy

Recommended:
1. 5.0 (Masterpiece) My Neighbor Totoro (M) - Best place to start for existing film-buffs and best, period, IMO.
2. 5.0 (Masterpiece) Ponyo (M) - Watch it like you're a child again, not like a jaded adult that wants coherency/structure, and it's beautiful. My favorite visually.
3. 5.0 (Masterpiece) Porco Rosso (M) - Slightly understated, perfect amount of sentiment. In terms of pure direction/storytelling deftness (knowing when and when not to show its hand and all those nuances), I think it's his best.
4. 4.5 (Brilliant) Kiki's Delivery Service (M) - Probably the most innocent way to start. One of the best movies about growing up
5. 4.5 (Brilliant) Spirited Away (M) - Has a bit of everything and will definitely impress. Beginners should probably start here. The ones above it don't have the same flashy wow factor, and this doesn't really sacrifice anything that he's about, either.
6. 4.5 (Brilliant) The Tale of Princess Kaguya (T) - Not for everyone. Love the animation/fairytale look. Might drag in the middle for some people, but I was into it. Don't start here.
7. 4.0 (Perfect) Whisper of the Heart (M) - Innocent and understated slice of life movie about becoming an artist
8. 4.0 (Perfect) Only Yesterday (T) - Dry/uneventful compared to others, but beautifully nostalgic. The ending puts me to tears. Don't start here.
9. 4.0 (Perfect) Princess Mononoke (M) - More conventional-- Visually awe inspiring, but missing some of Miyazaki's simpler bread and butter. Watch it first if you want to start with an epic blockbuster.
10. 3.5 (Great) My Neighbor the Yamadas (T) - eccentric but charming/humorous episodic style. May not be for everyone, but I like it. Don't start here.
11. 3.5 (Great) Castle in the Sky (M) - Miyazaki hadn't yet developed his full arsenal, so it's kind of a straightforward storybook cliche, but has some absolutely fantastic visual moments
12. 3.0 (Very Good) Howl's Moving Castle (M) - A bit like a poor man's entry-level Spirited Away-- seemingly has everything, but didn't really hit the mark the same way for me.
13. 3.0 (Very Good) Nausicaa Valley of the Wind (M) - Great scope/execution, missing some of the sentiment for me
14. 3.0 (Very Good) Lupin III: Castle of Cagliostro (M) - Really raw and early curiosity, but I still find it cool, fun, and charming. Skip this if you're not interested.
15. 3.0 (Very Good) Grave of the Fireflies (T) - Some love it. Will put you in tears and absolutely wreck you emotionally, but I found it a bit manipulative
16. 2.5 (Good) The Wind Rises (M) - Probably watch this last, if you end up interested in Miyazaki, the person. Really reflective. Could be boring for alot of people. I go back and forth on it.

Don't need to see these:
17. 2.0 (Positive) From Up on Poppy Hill (O)
18. 1.5 (Neutral) Arrietty (O)
19. 0.5 (Bad) The Cat Returns (O) - Kids movie through and through
20. 0.0 (Terrible) Tales From Earthsea (O) - I found it unwatchable

Haven't Seen:
Sherlock Hound (M)
Pom Poko (T)
When Marnie Was Here (O)

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This makes me want to draw cartoons for a living.
 
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Don't need to see these:
17. 2.0 (Positive) From Up on Poppy Hill (O)
18. 1.5 (Neutral) Arrietty (O)
19. 0.5 (Bad) The Cat Returns (O) - Kids movie through and through
20. 0.0 (Terrible) Tales From Earthsea (O) - I found it unwatchable

Haven't Seen:
Sherlock Hound (M)
Pom Poko (T)
When Marnie Was Here (O)

I loved Arrietty, would definitely not classify it as "don't need to see". Really cute film

When Marnie Was There is also one of my favourite Ghiblis. It's one of their lesser choatic films, and while it doesn't have the same kind of magical feeling the others do, I found it to be very moving and even emotional.
 

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Great list Shareefruck. I agree with pretty much all your comments. Seems you have accidentally listed Whisper of The Heart as a Miyazaki, it's actually by Yoshifumi Kondo.
 

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Zootopia 8/10

Was really looking forward to this and it wasn't quite as good as I had hoped, though my expectations were very high. My nieces loved it and it has a great message for young kids, so in that respect I'd give it a 10/10. However, as an adult, the don't judge a book by it's cover and you can be whatever you want to be message" was a bit too heavy IMO.

Still a very good movie and I definitely enjoyed it. The animation was top notch and I chuckled quite frequently.
 

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Thanks, Shareefruck.

For what it is worth, here are my favourite three:

1. 5.0 (Masterpiece) My Neighbor Totoro (M) - Best place to start for existing film-buffs and best, period, IMO.

2. 5.0 (Masterpiece) Ponyo (M) - Watch it like you're a child again, not like a jaded adult that wants coherency/structure, and it's beautiful. My favorite visually.

6. 4.5 (Brilliant) The Tale of Princess Kaguya (T) - Not for everyone. Love the animation/fairytale look. Might drag in the middle for some people, but I was into it. Don't start here.


I agree that The Tale of Princess Kaguya is a bad place to start.
 

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Kaguya is definitely a hard watch if you're going to start there. It was one of my favorites of that year but I can see how people would think it's a bit of a chore to get through.
 

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Great list Shareefruck. I agree with pretty much all your comments. Seems you have accidentally listed Whisper of The Heart as a Miyazaki, it's actually by Yoshifumi Kondo.
Thanks. I'm under the impression that it's his story but someone else directed it or something, so I just gave him the credit willy nilly.
 
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I loved Arrietty, would definitely not classify it as "don't need to see". Really cute film

When Marnie Was There is also one of my favourite Ghiblis. It's one of their lesser choatic films, and while it doesn't have the same kind of magical feeling the others do, I found it to be very moving and even emotional.
I don't dislike Arrietty or anything, but I had a pretty lukewarm reaction to it.

Surprised at the When Marnie Was Here comment. I've heard nothing but bad things from people.
 

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Second Coming (2014) Directed by Debbie Tucker Green 8D

Second Coming (not to be confused with a wretched horror movie from the same year called The Second Coming) receives a 5.8 rating on IMDb and only 46% on Rotten Tomatoes usual push-over audience rating. I point this out at the start because this is a movie most people will have a lot of trouble tolerating. It is slow, it is ultra minimalist, it is confusing, its central character doesn't say much, and it willfully and dangerously withholds information until the penultimate scene of the movie. The film is not even exactly about what one might think it should be. I can't even summarize the plot without violating the movie's structure. All that said, I really, really liked it. :dunno: So there is a major spoiler alert concerning this next bit of the discussion even though this information might indeed be useful to know for many viewers going into the film. [Spoil] Let's not beat around the bush. What you don't find out until very near the end is that Jax (Nadine Marshall) is indeed pregnant but not by her husband with whom she hasn't had sex in months and months, nor by anybody else for that matter, a point the movie readily concedes. In fact, she fears that she is giving birth to the Second Coming. This late insight explains a lot of her behaviour earlier n the movie. She is tight-lipped, reclusive and worried as hell. She can't really tell her best friend because she would think her crazy. And her homelife, already complicated, gets infinitely more so. Her loving partner Mark (Idris Elba) and their 11-year-old boy, J J, are swept along in the turmoil which eventually leads to a brilliantly shot and devastatingly heart-wrenching confrontation. Mark jumps to wrong conclusions, but how could he not? What would you do if your partner claimed that she got pregnant out of thin air?

Here's another thing: though it sounds like it might, this movie has virtually nothing to do with religion. It's not a movie about the supernatural at all, though it does have a tendency to rain on Jax whenever she seeks refuge in her bathroom. Rather the movie is a study of how certain kinds of pressure can't help but tear a family apart and there is nothing much anybody can do about it. It took a while, but eventually I found the movie deeply moving.[/Spoil] I think it will help most viewers knowing what the movie is about in the end because waiting to find out can be extremely frustrating. I had to immediately watch the movie again the following day to judge it fairly. One might persuasively suggest that any movie that requires a second viewing right away is deeply flawed. I would argue that Second Coming is brilliant. It is also one of the best acted movies that I have seen in a long time. Nadine Marshall is beyond superb and, as well, Idris Elba gives one of his very finest performances. I should add that for all the frustration I felt initially, I came to see the wisdom of director Debbie Tucker Green's approach. Had I known what was going on earlier I might not have taken the movie seriously, nor would I have eventually felt empathy for all concerned the way that I did. And I must say that the final scene is a thing of great beauty and grace. But, hey, buyer beware like ten times over on this one. That being said, I would rank Second Coming among the best films of 2014.

No subtitles, but one of those English movies where I occasionally wished there were.
 

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Pillow Talk, 4 out 5 (Rock Hudson looked a bit like Elvis, didn't he?)

Suspicion, 4 out 5 (One of Cary Grant's better roles, weakish ending)
 

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14. 3.0 (Very Good) Lupin III: Castle of Cagliostro (M) - Really raw and early curiosity, but I still find it cool, fun, and charming. Skip this if you're not interested.

Huge favorite of mine. There are many other Lupin films, but they are not by Miyazaki and not as good.
 

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Solaris (2002 re-make) - 7/10

A drama with a sci-fi setting. Takes half an hour to get going and is never fully satisfying but tries to ask some good questions while being a bit subtle in all ways with pacing that's slow but not dull. Performance by Clooney and his movie-wife are pretty flat (I've been watching O Brother Where Art Thou recently in contrast) yet he does a good enough job of making his emotions believable. Nothing ground-breaking and not one of the great space movies but an enjoyable 90 minutes overall. Accurately described by someone as "the movie aspires to fuse the mystical intellectual gamesmanship of 2001: A Space Odyssey with the love-beyond-the-grave romantic schmaltz of Titanic, without losing its cool...a tricky balancing act that doesn't quite come off."

Frances Ha - Enjoyable and charming in its own way. 7/10

It's imperfect but it's my definition of a perfect slice of life movie. I didn't feel any tension or awkwardness or anything negative when I saw it, just bliss.
 

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Solaris (2002 re-make) - 7/10

A drama with a sci-fi setting. Takes half an hour to get going and is never fully satisfying but tries to ask some good questions while being a bit subtle in all ways with pacing that's slow but not dull. Performance by Clooney and his movie-wife are pretty flat (I've been watching O Brother Where Art Thou recently in contrast) yet he does a good enough job of making his emotions believable. Nothing ground-breaking and not one of the great space movies but an enjoyable 90 minutes overall. Accurately described by someone as "the movie aspires to fuse the mystical intellectual gamesmanship of 2001: A Space Odyssey with the love-beyond-the-grave romantic schmaltz of Titanic, without losing its cool...a tricky balancing act that doesn't quite come off."

The original Solaris is one of my wife's all-time favourite movies. Don't mention the George Clooney version in her presence unless you want to hear a 10 minute rant on how bad it was in comparison.
 

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3-Iron (2004) dir. Ki-duk Kim

This review may not be as coherent as I'd hoped, because I wanted to wait a little bit after seeing it to let it sink in before writing out my thoughts. However, I might've let too much time pass, so forgive the ramblings about to occur. :laugh: Regardless, I'll just say outright that there are SPOILERS sprinkled throughout because I wasn't able to articulate my thoughts without including them, and it's not like this is a movie where knowing the plot beforehand would ruin the experience.

Anyways, I'll confess to, when push comes to shove, being a "dialogue guy," in that I'll generally prefer my movies to not be stingy when it comes to words, only so much in that I feel that approach better reflects what I perceive to be more "real," and it's usually easier to connect to something you relate to, while it's tough to relate to a reality where people never talk (hyperbole, yes -- this despite my recent shift into seeking out more movies here or there where I'm more likely to come away with a striking image in my head than I am a juicy quote/line). SO, I'll admit I was fighting this movie a bit at the start, since I kept on wanting the main characters to say more to each other. This is, of course, entirely my own fault, and once I was able to give in so-to-speak, I enjoyed the following proceedings much more. This problematic approach of looking for concrete information ties-in to the final act as well (thankfully, I've made strides in this department). Was he beaten to death in prison, and his ghost just floating about afterwards, or was he actually able to gain the ability to turn himself invisible through a heightened self-consciousness? Either answer is acceptable, though neither essential.

So, what to make of the use of a 3-iron golf club? I did find the parts where it was used for violence to be a bit, well, cheesy, but I did a little digging after watching the movie and found something online which I certainly subscribe to, which is the 3-iron club being symbolic to the 3 main steps of Buddhism: 1) Impermanence, 2) Non-Self, and 3) Nirvana (enlightened existence). We see this play out in the film in a fairly seamless, natural progression.

At first, our protagonist Tae-suk is just drifting from place to place, with no home of his own, and, I'd argue, no real individual sense of self, as he seems to more-or-less just assimilate himself into whatever particular house he is in at that time, only for it all to be erased once he comes upon a new place. Thus, impermanence. The non-self is achieved when he is in prison -- now that he is unable to travel from place-to-place, he is forced to look inward, not outward, for a source of identity. Through peaceful self-reflection and the eschewing of anger, he is able to remove his self/soul from its physical limitations (or is he?), which leads us to stage 3, Nirvana, the enlightened state-of-being, as he is now able to travel through the world in whatever state (physical/metaphysical) he desires, and weighs nothing on a scale. Yes, it's far from a perfect reading (even the original title in Korean was "Empty Houses"), but I like it anyway.

And about that relationship, I think the film's greatest achievement is to have the first words exchanged between our protagonists be "I love you," and for those words to be fully, completely earned -- we don't doubt it for a second, we don't feel the need to mentally backtrack and see if we missed anything, or feel like we are coming in cold to two characters whose history we don't yet know or understand. It really is such an understated, lovely sleight of hand Kim accomplishes there, and it's something I suspect no other movie has ever pulled off so well, if at all.


sidenote: I always hope I'll come away from any film with one image that will really stick with me afterwards, and for 3-Iron it's when he's in his prison cell with that cheeky (no other way to describe it) grin, egging himself on with each of his hands. That whole sequence really is a bit of a curveball in terms of tone. In fact, the entire 3rd act deviates from the first two as well in this sense, but this is more than welcome and serves the film a positive momentum as the conclusion draws near.
 

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Sleepwalk with me (2012) dir. Mike Birbiglia

Perfectly serviceable, though not something I expect to remember in great detail or with any emotional connection as time passes. I was looking for something quick and that would also make me laugh without sacrificing intelligence (not always a pre-requisite), and it absolutely delivered in that regard.

Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind (1984) dir. Hayao Miyazaki

Agree with Shareefruck about the positive scope and execution of the movie. It certainly succeeds in making its world feel as epic as it's presented. I was actually taken aback by the heavy army/war element. Not that it was a negative (the exact opposite, in fact, as it pertained to the story), just that I wasn't expecting it. I hear Mononoke is just as "violent," if not moreso, so I'll be ready for that when the time comes. Anyway, I digress. The allegory present might be a bit to heavy-handed, but not so much that it detracts from enjoyment. I also found some of the dialogue at the very beginning to be a bit too blatantly narrative for my tastes, but thankfully that was short-lived.

You've still got your signature Miyazaki/Ghibli elements though, even though this one was slightly earlier in his cinematic career. The exploration at the beginning, the world beneath the Sea of Decay, the secret room, all magical. Teto is also exactly like one of my cats too (even in color), in that my cat sometimes likes to playfully bite, but you'll only really get cut if you pull your finger/toe away -- he will eventually relinquish and begin licking. Again, just a simple example of the many ways Miyazaki films hold so many different personal connections with such a wide array of people. Huh. Maybe that's one of the reasons why he's so popular. Imagine that.
 

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Second Coming (2014) Directed by Debbie Tucker Green 8D

Second Coming (not to be confused with a wretched horror movie from the same year called The Second Coming) receives a 5.8 rating on IMDb and only 46% on Rotten Tomatoes usual push-over audience rating. I point this out at the start because this is a movie most people will have a lot of trouble tolerating. It is slow, it is ultra minimalist, it is confusing, its central character doesn't say much, and it willfully and dangerously withholds information until the penultimate scene of the movie. The film is not even exactly about what one might think it should be. I can't even summarize the plot without violating the movie's structure. All that said, I really, really liked it. :dunno: So there is a major spoiler alert concerning this next bit of the discussion even though this information might indeed be useful to know for many viewers going into the film. [Spoil] Let's not beat around the bush. What you don't find out until very near the end is that Jax (Nadine Marshall) is indeed pregnant but not by her husband with whom she hasn't had sex in months and months, nor by anybody else for that matter, a point the movie readily concedes. In fact, she fears that she is giving birth to the Second Coming. This late insight explains a lot of her behaviour earlier n the movie. She is tight-lipped, reclusive and worried as hell. She can't really tell her best friend because she would think her crazy. And her homelife, already complicated, gets infinitely more so. Her loving partner Mark (Idris Elba) and their 11-year-old boy, J J, are swept along in the turmoil which eventually leads to a brilliantly shot and devastatingly heart-wrenching confrontation. Mark jumps to wrong conclusions, but how could he not? What would you do if your partner claimed that she got pregnant out of thin air?

Here's another thing: though it sounds like it might, this movie has virtually nothing to do with religion. It's not a movie about the supernatural at all, though it does have a tendency to rain on Jax whenever she seeks refuge in her bathroom. Rather the movie is a study of how certain kinds of pressure can't help but tear a family apart and there is nothing much anybody can do about it. It took a while, but eventually I found the movie deeply moving.[/Spoil] I think it will help most viewers knowing what the movie is about in the end because waiting to find out can be extremely frustrating. I had to immediately watch the movie again the following day to judge it fairly. One might persuasively suggest that any movie that requires a second viewing right away is deeply flawed. I would argue that Second Coming is brilliant. It is also one of the best acted movies that I have seen in a long time. Nadine Marshall is beyond superb and, as well, Idris Elba gives one of his very finest performances. I should add that for all the frustration I felt initially, I came to see the wisdom of director Debbie Tucker Green's approach. Had I known what was going on earlier I might not have taken the movie seriously, nor would I have eventually felt empathy for all concerned the way that I did. And I must say that the final scene is a thing of great beauty and grace. But, hey, buyer beware like ten times over on this one. That being said, I would rank Second Coming among the best films of 2014.

No subtitles, but one of those English movies where I occasionally wished there were.


Reading the above peaked my interest enough to watch it. Having it on Netflix sealed the deal.


I enjoyed the pace, and thought the cinematography was excellent. I thought the director was the star of the show here. But agreed, all the actors did excellent jobs.

Can't really say too much about how I generally liked it at movie's end, as I would not want to give anything away. Only to say I gave a huge eye roll and a "really?" chuckle at movie's end. Would neither recommend to watch or not to watch. Other than to say read some non spoiler reviews and see if there is any interest that is stirred up.
 

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Reading the above peaked my interest enough to watch it. Having it on Netflix sealed the deal.


I enjoyed the pace, and thought the cinematography was excellent. I thought the director was the star of the show here. But agreed, all the actors did excellent jobs.

Can't really say too much about how I generally liked it at movie's end, as I would not want to give anything away. Only to say I gave a huge eye roll and a "really?" chuckle at movie's end. Would neither recommend to watch or not to watch. Other than to say read some non spoiler reviews and see if there is any interest that is stirred up.
It recalled to mind Marc Vallee's Cafe de Flore in that at a certain point one really has to make a leap of faith. But the more I think about what we come to know and when we come to know it, the more I think the director did an excellent job of handling the plot device in service of her characters and their emotional reactions. Like Cafe de Flore, I expect this movie will stay with me a while.

Word of warning, though: it is hard to find non-spoiler reviews. I looked at several after I finished and posted my review and they all gave away way too much information.
 

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It recalled to mind Marc Vallee's Cafe de Flore in that at a certain point one really has to make a leap of faith. But the more I think about what we come to know and when we come to know it, the more I think the director did an excellent job of handling the plot device in service of her characters and their emotional reactions. Like Cafe de Flore, I expect this movie will stay with me a while.

Word of warning, though: it is hard to find non-spoiler reviews. I looked at several after I finished and posted my review and they all gave away way too much information.

On "review" warning: definitely take heed of that advice if any interest in the movie. I am glad that I did not know anymore than I did.

Your review was the perfect mix of describing the movie enough to stimulate interest, and not give any vital info that would take away from the experience of "digesting" the movie for oneself.

Not surprising though, as it obvious the care and thought you put into any and all of your reviews. Your passion for film certainly bleeds into your writing.
 

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The Hateful Eight: 8/10
I stewed on this one for a while before finally bringing it up to an 8 from the 7.5 or so I had in mind when I saw it. It is certainly the most interesting movie Tarantino has made in almost a decade, since Death Proof I would say. Inglourious Basterds and Django Unchained were cartoony throwaways. The Hateful Eight isn't perfect, and it probably riffs on Reservoir Dogs a little too much to stand on its own as a dazzlingly unique Tarantino creation. But it did feel, at the very least, like QT was challenging himself with this script. These are some of the most interesting characters he's written in a long time, and his knack for storytelling is as sharp as ever. As a theatre-style, locked-room mystery, it's very interesting. As a movie, well you probably could have shaved 20-30 minutes from the runtime, and I don't think it really says much despite the presence of the superficial racial politics that Tarantino is eternally obsessed with, but I liked it more than I thought I would. I was expecting a big action movie and it's quite a different beast indeed. So, not "perfect" but I'll happily settle for "interesting" at this point in Tarantino's career.

Room: 7.5/10
Contrary to the above, here's one I thought I would like even more than I did. It was good, Brie Larson was as good as she was hyped to me, but I was expecting even more of an emotional punch. Although I liked how the second half of the movie dealt with the aftermath, it was hard not to feel like the movie lost some steam and was searching for a solid foothold. I enjoyed it on just about every level but I still can't say I wasn't expecting something a little more.

Sisters: 7.5/10
One reviewer on Rotten Tomatoes said "if we're going to have one more dumb man-child comedy, at least this one has Tina Fey and Amy Poehler in it". That's a pretty good line. Sisters is very much in the Stepbrothers/Ferrell et al. style, but it's better than simply "Stepbrothers for chicks" (granted I didn't think much of Stepbrothers). The movie is probably as raunchy as anything the "Frat Pack" have put out, and it has the old "let's put off being adults as long as possible" trope that those movies (and Bridesmaids, and any other Apatow-produced comedy in general seems to have these days) use at their core.
The chemistry between Fey and Poehler doesn't need to be stated. Poehler plays pretty much the same character she always seems to play, the slightly naïve and awkward but more mature one, but at least Fey gets to try on being more of a brassy ****show, to more interesting results.
There are some good laughs, but at 2h07m, it definitely starts to wear out its welcome, and that's not helped by the "everybody gets a happy ending" ending that feels very rote and contrived. But it was funny, and that's all I was looking for.

Avengers: Age of Ultron: 5/10
I really liked the first Avengers. Also, it's one of the few superhero franchises where I haven't already missed a dozen entries and feel hopelessly behind the curve (X-Men, Captain America) so I'm doing my best to keep up with this one. And I'm having a hard time trying to pin down why I didn't like this one so much. Its plot feels extremely fractured, not so much in a confusing way but just that it's so noticeably all over the place. The amount of time devoted to the in-fighting in this group (just so they can inevitably bond together at the right moment) is bordering on critical mass, and it was already a criticism of mine the first time around. It feels like padding time in a movie that doesn't need any more padding. And OK, I understand it for the heroes, but geez, do you really have to make even the villain a smarmy, quippy, banter-heavy caricature?
The battle scenes were certainly impressive, but maybe the overall effect was like spending two and a half hours with the volume turned up to 11. After a while, things stopped registering and I got bored. Maybe it's me.
 

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Avengers: Age of Ultron: 5/10
I really liked the first Avengers. Also, it's one of the few superhero franchises where I haven't already missed a dozen entries and feel hopelessly behind the curve (X-Men, Captain America) so I'm doing my best to keep up with this one. And I'm having a hard time trying to pin down why I didn't like this one so much. Its plot feels extremely fractured, not so much in a confusing way but just that it's so noticeably all over the place. The amount of time devoted to the in-fighting in this group (just so they can inevitably bond together at the right moment) is bordering on critical mass, and it was already a criticism of mine the first time around. It feels like padding time in a movie that doesn't need any more padding. And OK, I understand it for the heroes, but geez, do you really have to make even the villain a smarmy, quippy, banter-heavy caricature?
The battle scenes were certainly impressive, but maybe the overall effect was like spending two and a half hours with the volume turned up to 11. After a while, things stopped registering and I got bored. Maybe it's me.
If anything, I think you're being kind to it. It was pretty widely panned, for good reason, IMO.
 
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