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Did I miss the memo when this thread turned into the horror/giallo movie thread? ;)

Not complaining, but just wondering if it was worth it opening a new thread on art-house films, indies (otherwise known as Sundance flims) and various serious foreign films. We could leave this one to horror, Marvel, giallos, revenge flicks etc.

I'm not sure, there might not be enough to post for an extra thread. And it might get confusing.

"serious foreign films", excuse me Sir
 

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Road To Perdition (2002) - 7/10

Its somber tone prevents it from being a truly great film or memorable but it also means it holds up well due to that tone in the music and in the cinematography. Despite a relatively slow pace, I think there's a good sense of dread throughout the entire film (Jude Law isn't exactly Javier Bardem in No Country For Old Men but a similar multi-character vibe). All the major actors (minus the kid) are also pretty great here especially an old Paul Newman. I'd probably rank it as one of the best gangster films of that decade despite its tone making it an anti-gangster flick.
 

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Ok so it might not be a good idea.

Before the pandemic, this was a good thread to find some hidden gems of movies. I suppose they were movies that weren't popular enough to start a new thread. There were drive-by postings but for the most part, people posted good current films ( I know that is subjective) that flew beneath the radar. But they were mostly current films (or a few years old).

During the pandemic we saw a switch. I suppose it was due to a lack of content. People started posting a lot of older flicks. That's ok. Not complaining. I posted my fair share too of old thrillers.

I just miss the old thread where people used to post about the hidden gems that flew beneath the radar (in a current setting, i.e. today's films that aren't the big box office hits). This was a good place to find out about those 'hidden gems' that are out there. Not trying to be a snob. I like a lot of genres. And I did like some posts about the oldies. Especially when a YouTube link was provided to see it (that was cool).

But I miss the older thread before it evolved into the potpourri of everything and anything. I was just curious if there was any interest in participating in reviewing more current flicks that fly under the radar. The hidden gems that aren't box office favorites. That's all.

That's just where my interest lies. I like Marvel, I like thrillers etc., but I am more keen on hearing about that great little undiscovered movie that hasn't hit the 'visible' surface yet.
 

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Just for Puck, a couple of old thrillers...

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Little angel or evil incarnate?

The Bad Seed (1956) - 6/10 (Liked it)

While her husband is away on assignment, a housewife begins to suspect that her darling little girl is a serial killer. If this had been the girl in Cape Fear or The Night of the Hunter, Robert Mitchum wouldn't have stood a chance. I imagine that a movie about an irredeemably evil child must've been racy and ahead of its time for 1956. At the same time, there's a subtext of "this is what happens when there isn't a father around" that is so 1950s and makes it amusingly dated. It also explores the idea of whether evil tendencies can be inherited, which I take it was a popular discussion at the time. The film really shines whenever the little she-devil, played by Patty McCormack, is on screen, either manipulating the naive adults with sweetness or being a little monster. She occasionally reminded me of Kathy Bates in Misery in how she pivots from one to the other. The film becomes a lot less interesting when she's not around and the story shifts to the mother talking about her with other adults. That's probably another dated aspect of it, since I imagine that 1950s audiences might've been more interested in the parenting dilemma. I would've preferred less of that and for the 129 minutes to be pared down to 90 that focus on the demon in pigtails, but there was enough of her. I still liked the film and feel that it's well worth watching for the great, unique premise (for 1956) and for Patty McCormack's performance.

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Frodo knows evil when he sees it

The Good Son (1993) - 7/10 (Really liked it)

In another case of neglectful parenting, a young boy (Elijah Wood) is sent to stay with his cousin (Macauley Culkin), who might just be a psychopath in training. This film will only confirm your suspicions that Kevin McAllister was the real villain of Home Alone. Ironically, people at the time had trouble accepting Culkin as an evil character, whereas, nowadays, buying him as the innocent victim might be harder. Anyways, he does a great job (assuming he's acting). So does Wood, but being adorably cute and likable probably comes naturally for him. Speaking of things coming naturally, one neat bit of trivia is that Culkin's real-life sister plays his sister on screen. I got a little kick out of seeing them fight because they probably did it no differently off camera. Unlike The Bad Seed, which it was based on, this film doesn't focus too much on the adults. One or both of the kids are in nearly every shot, so it stays really focused and the tension steadily builds. That tension, combined with the New England setting and the darkness of the story makes it feel just like a Stephen King movie, even though it isn't based on any of his novels. The critic and audience reviews aren't very good, but I really liked it in 1993 and really liked it again. Maybe I'm nostalgic, but I've always felt that it's better than it's given credit for.
 
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Just for Puck, a couple of old thrillers...

badseed4.jpg

Little angel or evil incarnate?

The Bad Seed (1956) - 6/10 (Liked it)

While her husband is away on assignment, a housewife begins to suspect that her darling little girl is a serial killer. If this had been the girl in Cape Fear or The Night of the Hunter, Robert Mitchum wouldn't have stood a chance. I imagine that this must've been racy and ahead of its time for 1956. At the same time, there's a subtext of "this is what happens when there isn't a father around" that is so 1950s and makes it amusingly dated. It also explores the idea of whether evil tendencies can be inherited, which I take it was a popular discussion at the time. The film really shines whenever the little she-devil, played by Patty McCormack, is on screen, either manipulating the naive adults with sweetness or being a little monster. She occasionally reminded me of Kathy Bates in Misery in how she pivots from one to the other. The film becomes a lot less interesting when she's not around and the story shifts to the mother talking about her with other adults. That's probably another dated aspect of it, since I imagine that 1950s audiences might've been more interested in how the adults dealt with the girl. I would've liked less of that and for the 129 minutes to be pared down to 90 that focus on the girl, but I still liked the film and feel that it's well worth watching for the great, unique premise (for 1956) and for Patty McCormack's performance.

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Frodo knows evil when he sees it

The Good Son (1993) - 7/10 (Really liked it)

In yet another case of neglectful parenting, a young boy (Elijah Wood) is sent to stay with his cousin (Macauley Culkin), who might just be a psychopath in training. This film will only confirm your suspicions that Kevin McAllister was the real villain of Home Alone. Ironically, people at the time had trouble accepting Culkin as an evil character, whereas, nowadays, buying him as the innocent victim might be harder. Anyways, he does a great job (assuming he's acting). So does Wood, but being adorably cute and likable probably comes naturally for him. Unlike The Bad Seed, which it was based on, this film doesn't focus too much on the adults. One or both of the kids are in nearly every shot. It does a good job of using its New England setting and building tension. In fact, it feels just like a Stephen King movie, but isn't based on any of his novels. The critic and audience reviews aren't very good, but I really liked it in 1993 and I really liked it again. Maybe I'm nostalgic, but I've always felt that it's better than it's given credit for.
Perhaps we got good and evil all wrong. Evil is just misunderstood.

Saw this on a film website today. Maybe it's time to switch sides.

Bishop resigns after falling for satanic erotic fiction author
 
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Transformers: 7/10

Yes Michael Bay has become a meme and a joke but this is a very good summer blockbuster.

The action scenes are great, the comedy is there and the CGI is pretty phenomenal especially for 2007. It's damn near flawless, especially on the transformations.
 
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I thought you had lost that argument. But I guess like films, it's all a matter of perception.

You thought wrong, it happens. My argument(s) is just "lost" on some people.

Not trying to be a snob.

Honestly, you ain't doing the best of job. The old thread was the same as the new thread. Only difference, kihei was more active. He'll come back to it.

By the way, I am still looking for this one. Can't find it anywhere. It was on Amazon in the UK but could not get in, even with a VPN. One of these days I will find it.

The Perfect Candidate - Wikipedia

I can get that for you quite easily if you don't mind downloading it from 1fichier or something equivalent.
 

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I can get that for you quite easily if you don't mind downloading it from 1fichier or something equivalent.
Well I posted a reply but it seems to have got lost in the cloud somewhere.

Thanks for the offer but I will try to be patient and wait for it. I also think the old thread had more current content but I might be impatient there too. I figure people will post more current stuff when the film industry reboots and gets into gear again.
 

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Well I posted a reply but it seems to have got lost in the cloud somewhere.

Thanks for the offer but I will try to be patient and wait for it. I also think the old thread had more current content but I might be impatient there too. I figure people will post more current stuff when the film industry reboots and gets into gear again.

If you're looking for the legal option and therefore don't mind paying $5, here it is on google play: https://play.google.com/store/movies/details/The_Perfect_Candidate?gl=CA&hl=en&id=xTRH4N7x19I.P

It's also on the uhh "less legal" places if you know where to look.

I haven't seen The Perfect Candidate but her other film Wadjda was excellent if you hadn't seen that one before
 
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If you're looking for the legal option and therefore don't mind paying $5, here it is on google play: https://play.google.com/store/movies/details/The_Perfect_Candidate?gl=CA&hl=en&id=xTRH4N7x19I.P

It's also on the uhh "less legal" places if you know where to look.

I haven't seen The Perfect Candidate but her other film Wadjda was excellent if you hadn't seen that one before
Wow. Google Play was never on my radar for movies. Thanks Pink Mist. :thumbu: And yes I have seen Wadjda, it's basically why I was curious about her next film. I also saw it at 'other places' but always had troubles for that one.
 
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Don't Breathe 2 (2021) - 5/10 (Didn't like or dislike it)

Eight years after the events of the first movie, the blind veteran (Stephen Lang) and his daughter (Madelyn Grace) have their world turned upside down when a group of lowlifes invade their home. I started out confused because I couldn't figure out how it connected to the first movie and, specifically, where this daughter came from, so I paused the movie and read the plot summary for the first one to refresh myself... and I was still confused. It turns out that there's almost no connection. It's the same blind guy, but everything else is different and isn't explained until halfway through. I'm mentioning that partly as criticism, but mostly so that it saves you some of the confusion that I initially had. Just go along with it and it'll explain itself. Though there's little connection to the first movie, the first half plays out similarly, as a home invasion horror, except that we're rooting for the blind man this time. After the story takes a dramatic turn at the halfway mark, it becomes more unbelievable and like a Rambo movie. Unfortunately, I didn't find the horror half to be as gripping as the first movie or the action half to be as satisfying as other action movies. Maybe that's because I spent the first half wondering who the girl was and then the second half more interested in her than the old man, since she's the one who undergoes the most character development and that we're made to sympathize the most with. Maybe it's also because it was the director's first film, though he did co-write and co-produce the first movie and doesn't do a bad job. It's just my speculation, but perhaps the chance to give him this opportunity helps explain the almost unconnected story and the feeling that it's an unnecessary sequel. Regardless, the movie is solid enough that it may satisfy if you're just looking for a decent horror/action movie, but it may be disappointing if you're hoping it to be just like or as good as the original.
 
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Wow. Google Play was never on my radar for movies. Thanks Pink Mist. :thumbu: And yes I have seen Wadjda, it's basically why I was curious about her next film. I also saw it at 'other places' but always had troubles for that one.

I useful site I use to find movies that are available to stream or rent online is justwatch.com . Whenever I'm looking for something I'll usually search it on that site first to see if it's streaming anywhere. You can also switch countries on that site too to see if it's streaming in the US or UK etc
 
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I useful site I use to find movies that are available to stream or rent online is justwatch.com . Whenever I'm looking for something I'll usually search it on that site first to see if it's streaming anywhere. You can also switch countries on that site too to see if it's streaming in the US or UK etc
This is useful. Thanks again Pink Mist. :thumbu:
 
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Ok so it might not be a good idea.

Before the pandemic, this was a good thread to find some hidden gems of movies. I suppose they were movies that weren't popular enough to start a new thread. There were drive-by postings but for the most part, people posted good current films ( I know that is subjective) that flew beneath the radar. But they were mostly current films (or a few years old).

During the pandemic we saw a switch. I suppose it was due to a lack of content. People started posting a lot of older flicks. That's ok. Not complaining. I posted my fair share too of old thrillers.

I just miss the old thread where people used to post about the hidden gems that flew beneath the radar (in a current setting, i.e. today's films that aren't the big box office hits). This was a good place to find out about those 'hidden gems' that are out there. Not trying to be a snob. I like a lot of genres. And I did like some posts about the oldies. Especially when a YouTube link was provided to see it (that was cool).

But I miss the older thread before it evolved into the potpourri of everything and anything. I was just curious if there was any interest in participating in reviewing more current flicks that fly under the radar. The hidden gems that aren't box office favorites. That's all.

That's just where my interest lies. I like Marvel, I like thrillers etc., but I am more keen on hearing about that great little undiscovered movie that hasn't hit the 'visible' surface yet.

My memory of this thread is that it's always been a potpourri of old and new. I suspect the world situation has somewhat impacted the flow of new. There's absolutely fewer films in theaters these past two years for obvious reasons. On the other hand, so much has been pushed to streaming, which is so easily accessible to many, that perhaps my premise is wrong. Maybe there's actually more?

I'm not being helpful at all.

Speaking for myself, I hit a point a few years ago (pre-pandemic) where I just started to lose interest in new movies broadly. I used to be rabid about it. I liked being the curator, so to speak, among my friends, eager to rush out and try something new and tell others, "You gotta check this out!"

Two things happened. One - as more streaming options rolled out and I had access to these deep libraries of movies, I just got drawn into more old stuff. (I've had a similar evolution with drinking beer where after years of aggressively seeking out what's new and "exciting" I realized there's a lot of classics that are classics for a reason and new isn't all that it's cracked up to be).

Two, I think current movie making has settled in to an uninteresting sameness. Broadly speaking. People are still absolutely making entertaining and good movies, but to me it just FEELS like there's less there. I used to push back against the "it's all IP" arguments about where movies were heading, but damn it really does feel like it's all franchises and IP. Again, I LIKE a lot of that. This isn't anti-IP. It just feels like there isn't much room for much else. This isn't even a Marvel thing. Two of the highest profile movies coming this year from two of our most talented filmmakers are Dune and West Side Story ... both may be good or great but we've also seen them before. A few times to be honest.

At the other end of the spectrum, I know there's a lot of lower budget cheap stuff that gets flooded onto streamers (horror movies being the most obvious) but every time I dip my toes into that, I come away unmoved and unimpressed. I think this is the type of stuff you're looking for ... under the radar gems. Me? I've lost interest in finding them myself and when recommendations drive me to one, I tend to come away thinking meh.

Perhaps, I'm just grumpy!

Meanwhile, a lot has been written about this but we've seen a whole middle class of movies essentially migrate to TV. Think things like Mr. Robot or Mare of Easttown or Lovecraft Country (and so many others) -- 10 years ago these are all movies. Might have been better, might have been worse in those worlds. Not making a quality point, but a quantity one. I rewatched Cop Land this week. It's a perfect example of something that was a movie 20 years ago but absolutely would be a TV show today. It certainly isn't under the radar, but it is the type of movie that gets a little lost in the shuffle until you go, "You know what was a good movie? Cop Land!"

So at the big end, we're all aware of the blockbusters. The small end, at least to me, is very hit and miss. And the middle? Doesn't really exist any more.

I'm old. I need my metamucil and a nap.

Thank you for coming to my TED Talk. :D
 

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Aparajito
[অপরাজিত] (1956) directed by Satyajit Ray

Picking up from where Pather Panchali ended, Apu (Pinaki Sen Gupta) and his parents move to Varanasi from rural Bengal so that his father can work as a priest in the city. When his father comes down with a fever and dies, Apu and his mother (Karuna Banerjee) move back to Bengal and Apu trains to be a priest too, but truly wants to attend school. Eventually he convinces his mother to let him attend school and ends up excelling at it and as a teenager (now played by Smaran Ghosal) he wins a scholarship to study in Kolkata. In Kolkata the city life draws him in and he doesn’t have the time or the desire to visit his mother back home.

An excellent continuation of this coming-of-age story from Ray. Whereas Pather Panchali looked at the innocence of childhood and how children are often sheltered from the suffering of life, Aparajito continues the story to the struggle between traditionalism and modernism as Apu discovers himself in the big bustling city and becomes aloof towards his home and his mother and in the process breaks his mother’s heart. A great tale of the complicated and often tragic process of maturation which feels universally relatable which can also be read as an allegory for India’s maturation and transition towards modernity as a country during that era. While I enjoyed Pather Panchali more, Aparajito is a good sequel to the story and stands alone as a great film in its own right.
 
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My memory of this thread is that it's always been a potpourri of old and new. I suspect the world situation has somewhat impacted the flow of new. There's absolutely fewer films in theaters these past two years for obvious reasons. On the other hand, so much has been pushed to streaming, which is so easily accessible to many, that perhaps my premise is wrong. Maybe there's actually more?

I'm not being helpful at all.

Speaking for myself, I hit a point a few years ago (pre-pandemic) where I just started to lose interest in new movies broadly. I used to be rabid about it. I liked being the curator, so to speak, among my friends, eager to rush out and try something new and tell others, "You gotta check this out!"

Two things happened. One - as more streaming options rolled out and I had access to these deep libraries of movies, I just got drawn into more old stuff. (I've had a similar evolution with drinking beer where after years of aggressively seeking out what's new and "exciting" I realized there's a lot of classics that are classics for a reason and new isn't all that it's cracked up to be).

Two, I think current movie making has settled in to an uninteresting sameness. Broadly speaking. People are still absolutely making entertaining and good movies, but to me it just FEELS like there's less there. I used to push back against the "it's all IP" arguments about where movies were heading, but damn it really does feel like it's all franchises and IP. Again, I LIKE a lot of that. This isn't anti-IP. It just feels like there isn't much room for much else. This isn't even a Marvel thing. Two of the highest profile movies coming this year from two of our most talented filmmakers are Dune and West Side Story ... both may be good or great but we've also seen them before. A few times to be honest.

At the other end of the spectrum, I know there's a lot of lower budget cheap stuff that gets flooded onto streamers (horror movies being the most obvious) but every time I dip my toes into that, I come away unmoved and unimpressed. I think this is the type of stuff you're looking for ... under the radar gems. Me? I've lost interest in finding them myself and when recommendations drive me to one, I tend to come away thinking meh.

Perhaps, I'm just grumpy!

Meanwhile, a lot has been written about this but we've seen a whole middle class of movies essentially migrate to TV. Think things like Mr. Robot or Mare of Easttown or Lovecraft Country (and so many others) -- 10 years ago these are all movies. Might have been better, might have been worse in those worlds. Not making a quality point, but a quantity one. I rewatched Cop Land this week. It's a perfect example of something that was a movie 20 years ago but absolutely would be a TV show today. It certainly isn't under the radar, but it is the type of movie that gets a little lost in the shuffle until you go, "You know what was a good movie? Cop Land!"

So at the big end, we're all aware of the blockbusters. The small end, at least to me, is very hit and miss. And the middle? Doesn't really exist any more.

I'm old. I need my metamucil and a nap.

Thank you for coming to my TED Talk. :D

This is a very good answer and kind of where I'm at too. I've also gone back a lot to older films, I recently got Criterion Channel a few months ago and I've been loving to go back in their deep catalogue to look at some of the classic and under the radar releases they have. And on the other hand I've been less impressed by the new offerings on Netflix and the like. The pandemic has also coincided with a personal move to somewhere where I don't have an art house cinema locally and only a multiplex that shows blockbuster films and I haven't been drawn to anything that has convinced myself to drag myself to a theatre in a pandemic. Though I may convince myself to splurge on a movie from TIFF this week through their online screenings (though that $20 price to do so is steep) or possibly make the journey into Toronto to see something at TIFF in person.

I think I've mostly gotten lazy with new things. I basically just wait until end of the year lists come out and then sift through those to see what was worth watching from the year. There's just way too many things that are released each year now that I need some curation.

And I agree, this thread goes in cycles and we're about to head into the tailend of festival season which means it's soon to be award season so there will be a lot of new quality stuff released soon that I'm sure will be reviewed here. September - early January is the best season of films, not just Oscar movie type stuff but also foreign and independent stuff that gets released after the festival circuit ends
 

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My memory of this thread is that it's always been a potpourri of old and new. I suspect the world situation has somewhat impacted the flow of new. There's absolutely fewer films in theaters these past two years for obvious reasons. On the other hand, so much has been pushed to streaming, which is so easily accessible to many, that perhaps my premise is wrong. Maybe there's actually more?

I'm not being helpful at all.

Speaking for myself, I hit a point a few years ago (pre-pandemic) where I just started to lose interest in new movies broadly. I used to be rabid about it. I liked being the curator, so to speak, among my friends, eager to rush out and try something new and tell others, "You gotta check this out!"

Two things happened. One - as more streaming options rolled out and I had access to these deep libraries of movies, I just got drawn into more old stuff. (I've had a similar evolution with drinking beer where after years of aggressively seeking out what's new and "exciting" I realized there's a lot of classics that are classics for a reason and new isn't all that it's cracked up to be).

Two, I think current movie making has settled in to an uninteresting sameness. Broadly speaking. People are still absolutely making entertaining and good movies, but to me it just FEELS like there's less there. I used to push back against the "it's all IP" arguments about where movies were heading, but damn it really does feel like it's all franchises and IP. Again, I LIKE a lot of that. This isn't anti-IP. It just feels like there isn't much room for much else. This isn't even a Marvel thing. Two of the highest profile movies coming this year from two of our most talented filmmakers are Dune and West Side Story ... both may be good or great but we've also seen them before. A few times to be honest.

At the other end of the spectrum, I know there's a lot of lower budget cheap stuff that gets flooded onto streamers (horror movies being the most obvious) but every time I dip my toes into that, I come away unmoved and unimpressed. I think this is the type of stuff you're looking for ... under the radar gems. Me? I've lost interest in finding them myself and when recommendations drive me to one, I tend to come away thinking meh.

Perhaps, I'm just grumpy!

Meanwhile, a lot has been written about this but we've seen a whole middle class of movies essentially migrate to TV. Think things like Mr. Robot or Mare of Easttown or Lovecraft Country (and so many others) -- 10 years ago these are all movies. Might have been better, might have been worse in those worlds. Not making a quality point, but a quantity one. I rewatched Cop Land this week. It's a perfect example of something that was a movie 20 years ago but absolutely would be a TV show today. It certainly isn't under the radar, but it is the type of movie that gets a little lost in the shuffle until you go, "You know what was a good movie? Cop Land!"

So at the big end, we're all aware of the blockbusters. The small end, at least to me, is very hit and miss. And the middle? Doesn't really exist any more.

I'm old. I need my metamucil and a nap.

Thank you for coming to my TED Talk. :D
I might be a bit grumpy too I suppose. Yes the thread had a mixture of new and old but there seems to be a lot less new. Of course the pandemic can answer that too.

My habits have also changed over the years. I watch a lot less TV. I might cut the cord but not sure about that yet. I do think cable tv might be on its way out eventually (or it will be much diminished) but the cable companies have that covered, they also provide internet services.

And no I did not mean to imply horror movies as hidden gems. I don't mind watching some but it's honestly not my favorite genre. There are good ones but in that area, there's probably only a 10% fit there for my own tastes. We are all different though and I won't dump on people that enjoy their adrenaline rush that way. I like cartoons and animated flicks, that isn't for everyone either, especially parents that had to sit through tons with their kids (and got their full).

I don't know if it is my imagination, but in North America, we seem to be exposed to more art-house films and foreign fare. There seems to be less Hollywood. But I might be wrong, hard to say. I can't speak for everyone. I'm sure some here had more exposure than normal in that area.
 

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I might be a bit grumpy too I suppose. Yes the thread had a mixture of new and old but there seems to be a lot less new. Of course the pandemic can answer that too.

My habits have also changed over the years. I watch a lot less TV. I might cut the cord but not sure about that yet. I do think cable tv might be on its way out eventually (or it will be much diminished) but the cable companies have that covered, they also provide internet services.

And no I did not mean to imply horror movies as hidden gems. I don't mind watching some but it's honestly not my favorite genre. There are good ones but in that area, there's probably only a 10% fit there for my own tastes. We are all different though and I won't dump on people that enjoy their adrenaline rush that way. I like cartoons and animated flicks, that isn't for everyone either, especially parents that had to sit through tons with their kids (and got their full).

I don't know if it is my imagination, but in North America, we seem to be exposed to more art-house films and foreign fare. There seems to be less Hollywood. But I might be wrong, hard to say. I can't speak for everyone. I'm sure some here had more exposure than normal in that area.

I was only using horror as one example. It's a cheap genre to make so it still seems to be thriving in some ways these days while other types of movies (mid-tier dramas and thrillers for example) have fallen off. "Indies" to use that term generically for so many small scale personal dramas would be another type of movie that still seems to be around.

I wonder what trends there may be for animated flicks and cartoons. My guess is there are more ... but I'm not sure. I know TV-wise there seems to be a lot more animated options these days. I'd imagine the pandemic has/is pushing stuff in that direction.

I honestly probably watch more TV these days than I used to. (Currently rotating between the 1960s Batman, a rewatch of The Sopranos and whenever a new Ted Lasso episode pops up).
 

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For #25-26-27, I went with three serious foreign films.

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The Fifth Cord (Giornata nera per l'ariete, Bazzoni, 1971) – This might just be the most giallo of all gialli. It's a formulaic example of what the classic giallo film would be remembered as. Most of all, it's an amazingly beautiful film, with great sensibility in direction, pace and tension. It has all the elements you'd expect from a giallo (including Morricone), but it manages to use them all in refined and controlled measures (even Morricone, who's himself put aside in moments of silent tension) – with only the final confrontation dragging a little, but not without some more aesthetic high notes. It lacks the ideas of the better Argento films and the narrative might be a little too simple (still an ok whodunit), but it's just a splendid film. Bazzoni has only made a few films, but he shows here that he was at a level of mastery that only very few filmmakers of the genre could pretend to. 7/10

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Deep Red (Profondo rosso, Argento, 1975) – If there's a perfect genre film, this might be it. Not only is it astonishingly beautiful, but it's also a brilliant masterclass in filmmaking. It's my favorite giallo, and my favorite whodunit too. Now, if you haven't seen it, I suggest you don't read this comment and just go find it (the version on Shudder is ok, but lacks a few interesting elements). I used to present the first murder in class to demonstrate how framing and editing could direct the spectator's attention (something that horror films often overuse in the construction of the jump scares). In Deep Red, once you know, you know, but if you don't you normally get played (and in such ballsy fashion, with not only the face of the killer in frame, but a very blatant and beautiful call out just beforehand, through the allusion to Helnwein's Nighthawks, that we should pay attention to the paintings that are not really paintings). The investigation might rely on too many coincidences, but it remains engaging throughout – and even if you do (hopefully) get played, you can still solve it. Its most obvious solution lies in a mirror, but you can solve it through a drawing (which also gets in-frame when a piece of wall falls off) and the film ends on the reflection of its main character in a pool of blood – simple use of reflexive devices that appear through the whole film, strengthening its very gialloesque themes of sight, witnessing and remembering. To the numerous elements going that way (from the medium having visions to the many eye close-ups), Argento adds a self-reflexive layer that goes from the simplest acknowledgment of the film's fabrication (the theater's closing curtains, the many paintings), to clearer hints of its own apparatus (recordings and frames – the identity of the killer is revealed a few times, just out of frame), to a comment on his own cinema (the pianist complaining that his music is too clean and precise and should be trashier – missing from the Shudder version). The character repeating that the solution should be in the missing painting, an allusion to The Bird With the Crystal Plumage, puts emphasis on the need for pictorial analysis – the casting of David Hemmings only adds another intertextual echo pointing to it (contrarily to the character of The Bird, he won't find the painting he is looking for - and the invitation really is directed to the spectator as investigator, for him to analyze what he has seen - but there is that kid drawing he should have paid more attention to).
The original trailer is also in itself a tour de force, certainly an important influence on the giallo pastiches of Cattet and Forzani. The film does have a few weaknesses, some rapid inserts that jar with the rhythm (something a lot of gialli suffer from), a very poor performance by Macha Méril (luckily she's the first one offed), and, to me – I know it's blasphemy – its music. Everything intradiegetic (the nursery rhyme, the piano) is perfect, but the Goblin score, as much as it makes the film quite unique and participates in the overall saturation of the senses it aims for, often goes against the otherwise very efficient dreadful atmosphere and pace. 9/10

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The Bird With the Crystal Plumage (L'uccello dalle piume di cristallo, Argento, 1970) – Much more conventional in its narrative choices and direction, Argento's first film is still another gem and could just as easily be considered as the high mark of the genre. It has the same basic structure as Deep Red: the main character, witness to an act of violence, tries to remember exactly what he has seen in order to solve the case. The main difference here is that the spectator is merely spectator and not invited to take part in the game (we haven't seen the forgotten detail). A much simpler work, but still a great giallo and a great film (as some of you need validation from kihei, here's a quote from the master: “Director Dario Argento is an absolute master of suspense in the conspicuously stylish The Bird with the Crystal Plumage.”). There's already a few hints of things to come, the character as writer (instead of pianist), frames within the frame, paintings, freeze frame as still photographs with frame marks, etc. The main character is clearly positioned as spectator of the first attack (see screenshot), an observer separated from the action, but these ideas here are pretty much limited to the usual themes of the gialli - only used with enhanced style and panache. 8.5/10
 
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