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the last duel: 7.8/10 good movie but there was a potential for a better movie if they have shown the plague and more combat instead of nearly 3 time the same story. Jodie comer is great in it, so is the duel.

the worst person in the world: 7.5/10 good movie. Not as good as Thelma was but the lead actor and actress are great. The director is also good.

Encanto: 7/10 Great animation, average songs and story.

The Matrix 4: 5/10 Bad movie. The action and CGI is somehow worse 20 years later than the masterpiece first movie.
 

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Midnight in Paris (Woody Allen, 2011)

Watched this one primarily because I recently read Hemingway’s memoir, A Moveable Feast, about his time in Paris in the 1920s as a young writer, and I was looking for a film that took place during that period and milieu and I knew this took place during that period and was highly regarded by some as Allen’s best work in the past decade or so. Also, Hemingway plays a prominent character in it.

Well, this one was a stinker for me. The film is essentially what I imagine an English lit undergrad would write as fan fiction about the 1920s Parisian art scene. There’s no depth at all to the film, its just reference and reference of the major figures from the literary and art scene in Paris – “Hey look it’s Hemingway talking about how courage is the greatest virtue above all!” , “Woah there’s Dali acting weird in a bar!”. No surprise that the stand-in for Woody Allen in the film is praised by three of the greatest writers of the 1920s, which is something an overconfident English lit student would also cook up in their fan fiction. Then the central theme of the film about nostalgia is just hammered home over and over and over again, and if I didn’t get the point Allen was trying to get at, he adds a schlocky monologue by Owen Wilson at the end to hammer it into my brain once again. The film made me nostalgic to the time when Woody Allen used some degree of subtlety and wasn’t such a hack.

 
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Midnight in Paris (Woody Allen, 2011)

Watched this one primarily because I recently read Hemingway’s memoir, A Moveable Feast, about his time in Paris in the 1920s as a young writer, and I was looking for a film that took place during that period and milieu and I knew this took place during that period and was highly regarded by some as Allen’s best work in the past decade or so. Also, Hemingway plays a prominent character in it.

Well, this one was a stinker for me. The film is essentially what I imagine an English lit undergrad would write as fan fiction about the 1920s Parisian art scene. There’s no depth at all to the film, its just reference and reference of the major figures from the literary and art scene in Paris – “Hey look it’s Hemingway talking about how courage is the greatest virtue above all!” , “Woah there’s Dali acting weird in a bar!”. No surprise that the stand-in for Woody Allen in the film is praised by three of the greatest writers in the 1920s, which is something an overconfident English lit student would also cook up in their fan fiction. Then the central theme of the film about nostalgia is just hammered home over and over and over again, and if I didn’t get the point Allen was trying to get at, he adds a schlocky monologue by Owen Wilson at the end to hammer it into my brain once again. The film made me nostalgic to the time when Woody Allen used some degree of subtlety and wasn’t such a hack.



I'm a pretty big Woody fan and I really didn't get the hype around this one. I've only seen it once when it got out, but I too thought it was a stinker - so much so that I never could convince myself to revisit it to see if I was wrong. You just pushed it back another 10 years.
 

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I'm a pretty big Woody fan and I really didn't get the hype around this one. I've only seen it once when it got out, but I too thought it was a stinker - so much so that I never could convince myself to revisit it to see if I was wrong. You just pushed it back another 10 years.

I think people liked and hyped it because it's one of his least misanthropic works
 

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I think people liked and hyped it because it's one of his least misanthropic works

Though not generally a Woody Allen fan I do like this. This is one of those funny cases where I agree 100% with your analysis of it, though its shallowness doesn't bother me. I see it more as a slightly more literate Avengers. Disposable, comforting, fun. I still love Corey Stoll's Hemingway.
 

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the worst person in the world: 7.5/10 good movie. Not as good as Thelma was but the lead actor and actress are great. The director is also good.

Trier is a very good director, but most of his films (Thelma too) were written by Eskil Vogt. Now, Vogt directed his own project last year, The Innocents, which thematically is pretty close to Thelma. It's not as good either, but you might wanna check it out.
 

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I've been rewatching my favorite movie series of all-time the last few days, the original Planet of the Apes pentalogy.

Planet of the Apes - 8/10

The original always has the classic lines and scenes (and produced many great parodies).
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Beneath the Planet of the Apes - 6/10

Beneath' has some good moments, yet parts have aged terribly IMO (in 1970, they still had a character named 'Negro' :thumbd:...although TBH, Don Pedro Colley did well with what he had).

Escape from the Planet of the Apes - 4/10

I've never cared for 'Escape', even Bradford Dillman, Eric Braeden, and Detroit's own (although he was working in LA at that time) Bill Bonds can't save it.

Conquest of the Planet of the Apes - 7/10


I've always really liked 'Conquest', it's creative use of modern architecture, it's bleak outlook (really, everyone is just going to wear black?), very on the nose with its messages, but of all the sequels, still my favorite.

Current rewatch - Battle of the Planet of the Apes - pending

I'm guessing I'm not going to give 'Battle' a better score than previously, something like a 5 or 6/10. There are some parts I like, such as the inital underground exploration, but IIRC, it goes off the rails with the final battle, the lack of budget really showed.

One of these days, I'll even watch the new trilogy, and I don't hate the newer Planet of the Apes, as it is closer to the book, but I didn't care much for Walberg, which about all I remember about it.
 

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I've been rewatching my favorite movie series of all-time the last few days, the original Planet of the Apes pentalogy.

This is on my to-do list. I think that I've seen them all, but I want to revisit to make sure that I didn't miss one of the sequels and because it's been so long that I don't remember much from them, anyways.

Last year, I discovered the Return to the Planet of the Apes cartoon from the 70s. I had never seen it, but it gave me nostalgia for Saturday morning cartoons like it that I used to watch. It's only 13 episodes and all of them are on YouTube, if you're interested. There's also a Planet of the Apes TV series from the 70s that I haven't seen and would like to try to watch eventually.
 
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I've been rewatching my favorite movie series of all-time the last few days, the original Planet of the Apes pentalogy.

Planet of the Apes - 8/10

The original always has the classic lines and scenes (and produced many great parodies).
c7a05e26c5d7a624e57f985a426cd374.jpg

7NvRf.png


Beneath the Planet of the Apes - 6/10

Beneath' has some good moments, yet parts have aged terribly IMO (in 1970, they still had a character named 'Negro' :thumbd:...although TBH, Don Pedro Colley did well with what he had).

Escape from the Planet of the Apes - 4/10

I've never cared for 'Escape', even Bradford Dillman, Eric Braeden, and Detroit's own (although he was working in LA at that time) Bill Bonds can't save it.

Conquest of the Planet of the Apes - 7/10


I've always really liked 'Conquest', it's creative use of modern architecture, it's bleak outlook (really, everyone is just going to wear black?), very on the nose with its messages, but of all the sequels, still my favorite.

Current rewatch - Battle of the Planet of the Apes - pending

I'm guessing I'm not going to give 'Battle' a better score than previously, something like a 5 or 6/10. There are some parts I like, such as the inital underground exploration, but IIRC, it goes off the rails with the final battle, the lack of budget really showed.

One of these days, I'll even watch the new trilogy, and I don't hate the newer Planet of the Apes, as it is closer to the book, but I didn't care much for Walberg, which about all I remember about it.

The Serkis trilogy was great. Dawn of the Planet of the Apes was my favourite of the 3. I'd definitely recommend it. Kind of a soft remake of Conquest and Battle with much better effects, story telling, and acting. I'd put them just below the original film and I enjoyed all of the films in the series.
 

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Though not generally a Woody Allen fan I do like this. This is one of those funny cases where I agree 100% with your analysis of it, though its shallowness doesn't bother me. I see it more as a slightly more literate Avengers. Disposable, comforting, fun. I still love Corey Stoll's Hemingway.
Liked the film too and not a big fan of Woody's films. Thought Owen Wilson did a nice impersonation of Woody Allen the actor and found the fantasy interesting.
 

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Le lion est mort ce soir
(The Lion Sleeps Tonight, Suwa, 2017) – Nobuhiro Suwa keeps making movies in French, a language he doesn't speak. He says he shares the film language of French cinema, and his love for its classics is obvious in everything he does. H Story, the best of the films I've seen from him (and one of my favorite films), told the story of a French actress who came to Japan to shoot a remake of Resnais' Hiroshima mon amour. And this one here is an obvious love letter to François Truffaut, through his star actor Jean-Pierre Léaud and through a complex web of relations to Truffaut's cinema (I'm afraid some of it was too far gone in my memory to appreciate Le lion est mort ce soir in all its richness, and I suspect that more dedicated fans of Truffaut must have a lot of fun with this film), but also to the whole of the French New Wave. I've always thought, and still think, that Jean-Pierre Léaud is a terrible, terrible actor. Still, he embodies a certain something of French cinema, an aura that was already summoned in other films (Tsai Ming Liang's What Time Is It There? or Bertrand Bonello's Le pornographe). No matter the role, he's always both Jean-Pierre Léaud and Antoine Doisnel, a shadow that follows him around.
In Suwa's film, Léaud plays Jean, an actor from the old days (of course), who shoots a new movie that's reuniting him with an actress he worked with a long time ago, but never since. The director of that (first) film within the film underlines this, saying he doesn't understand why nobody ever reunited them before. We never see that actress as the shoot is put on hold, but just moments later, Jean makes the most of the break and visits an old acquaintance, someone from his past, played of course by someone from Léaud's past, Isabelle Weingarten (Léaud's ex-girlfriend in La maman et la putain, an actress he has never worked with since). You understand right away that the film is not about Jean, nor about the film he's shooting – maybe about all those films he (Léaud) has shot before, a shortcut to all of French cinéma. Intertextuality, reflexivity and mise en abyme are all important aspects of the film, but are never overdone and never take over the film, which feat is to tell both the very simple story of that old actor who befriends a group of children and agrees to play in their horror movie, and the more complex story of that old actor who cannot play death without encountering it and has to deal with his own ghosts. And that's it, the film walks the line between the only two important things movies should convey according to Truffaut: the joy of making films and the anguish of making films. “Today, I demand that a film express either the joy of making cinema or the agony of making cinema. I am not at all interested in anything in between; I am not interested in all those films that do not pulse.” (The Films In My Life). The interweaving between the film, the film Jean is shooting, the film the children are shooting with him, and Jean's story and past (including the past films of Truffaut) is uneven, sometimes subtle and charming, and sometimes clumsy or obscure, but it really makes for most of the charm here. 8/10
 
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This is on my to-do list. I think that I've seen them all, but I want to revisit to make sure that I didn't miss one of the sequels and because it's been so long that I don't remember much from them, anyways.

Last year, I discovered the Return to the Planet of the Apes cartoon from the 70s. I had never seen it, but it gave me nostalgia for Saturday morning cartoons like it that I used to watch. It's only 13 episodes and all of them are on YouTube, if you're interested. There's also a Planet of the Apes TV series from the 70s that I haven't seen and would like to try to watch eventually.

I actually own the TV series, the cartoon (both on DVD), and have the trilogy and reboot on Bluray.

The cartoon isn't great, but the apes do have modern vehicles, but honestly never made it past an episode or two of the live TV series without mentally wondering off...I think the problem with both TV shows, is that there's only so much you can do...humans get captured, humans escape, rinse, repeat. But also, the actors in the live series are bland as dishwater too.

The cartoon just makes think a Flintstones episode will break out at any moment, as Henry Corden's voice is so distinctive.

I have watched bits and pieces of the first movie in the trilogy, but I dislike James Franco immensely as an actor. It's not like he's terrible, but so much smug smugness. I will power through eventually, as LeafalCrusader mentioned, I too have read that Serkis was great in them.
 

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I actually own the TV series, the cartoon (both on DVD), and have the trilogy and reboot on Bluray.

Oh, you weren't exaggerating, then. You're a certified superfan.
The cartoon just makes think a Flintstones episode will break out at any moment, as Henry Corden's voice is so distinctive.
Yeah, I thought that that was funny. I kept expecting one of his ape subordinates to sound like Barney Rubble.
 

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Le lion est mort ce soir
(The Lion Sleeps Tonight, Suwa, 2017) – Nobuhiro Suwa keeps making movies in French, a language he doesn't speak. He says he shares the film language of French cinema, and his love for its classics is obvious in everything he does. H Story, the best of the films I've seen from him (and one of my favorite films), told the story of a French actress who came to Japan to shoot a remake of Resnais' Hiroshima mon amour. And this one here is an obvious love letter to François Truffaut, through his star actor Jean-Pierre Léaud and through a complex web of relations to Truffaut's cinema (I'm afraid some of it was too far gone in my memory to appreciate Le lion est mort ce soir in all its richness, and I suspect that more dedicated fans of Truffaut must have a lot of fun with this film), but also to the whole of the French New Wave. I've always thought, and still think, that Jean-Pierre Léaud is a terrible, terrible actor. Still, he embodies a certain something of French cinema, an aura that was already summoned in other films (Tsai Ming Liang's What Time Is It There? or Bertrand Bonello's Le pornographe). No matter the role, he's always both Jean-Pierre Léaud and Antoine Doisnel, a shadow that follows him around.
In Suwa's film, Léaud plays Jean, an actor from the old days (of course), who shoots a new movie that's reuniting him with an actress he worked with a long time ago, but never since. The director of that (first) film within the film underlines this, saying he doesn't understand why nobody ever reunited them before. We never see that actress as the shoot is put on hold, but just moments later, Jean makes the most of the break and visits an old acquaintance, someone from his past, played of course by someone from Léaud's past, Isabelle Weingarten (Léaud's ex-girlfriend in La maman et la putain, an actress he has never worked with since). You understand right away that the film is not about Jean, nor about the film he's shooting – maybe about all those films he (Léaud) has shot before, a shortcut to all of French cinéma. Intertextuality, reflexivity and mise en abyme are all important aspects of the film, but are never overdone and never take over the film, which feat is to tell both the very simple story of that old actor who befriends a group of children and agrees to play in their horror movie, and the more complex story of that old actor who cannot play death without encountering it and has to deal with his own ghosts. And that's it, the film walks the line between the only two important things movies should convey according to Truffaut: the joy of making films and the anguish of making films. “Today, I demand that a film express either the joy of making cinema or the agony of making cinema. I am not at all interested in anything in between; I am not interested in all those films that do not pulse.” (The Films In My Life). The interweaving between the film, the film Jean is shooting, the film the children are shooting with him, and Jean's story and past (including the past films of Truffaut) is uneven, sometimes subtle and charming, and sometimes clumsy or obscure, but it really makes for most of the charm here. 8/10

With Truffaut being my favorite director and having seen everything Truffaut has directed, and with this review having a rare 8/10 rating from you, this is a must watch film for me. Thanks for the putting it on my radar
 
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With Truffaut being my favorite director and having seen everything Truffaut has directed, and with this review having a rare 8/10 rating from you, this is a must watch film for me. Thanks for the putting it on my radar

I have H Story at 10/10 and Un couple parfait at 9/10 if you like this one (both of them are a lot more mastered works, with amazing slow pace). I thought my comment on Le lion est mort ce soir was long enough as it was, so I didn't go into what was wrong with its pace: weird fade to black creating an off-beat punctuation to the film, and uneven transitions from the more reflexive story of the actor to the quasi-documentary feel of some of the children's scenes (it feels like Suwa lets them go as they please, with a lot of trivial stuff - it's a little off-putting at first, but apart from one obvious glance to the camera, they're overall really good - or maybe it's just playing opposite to Léaud that makes them look like geniuses). Still, you should have a great time with the film. I've seen most of Truffaut's films, but so long ago that I can't say I remember much of them, so don't take my word on it, but I think the allusions are more in tone/style/themes than direct elements - there's touches of Les 400 coups and L'argent de poche with the kids, an obvious relation to La chambre verte, and well of course La nuit américaine too (the film's cinematography is beautiful too) - probably a lot more that I didn't catch on.


edit: oh and if you can't find the film, let me know
 

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Midnight in Paris (Woody Allen, 2011)

Watched this one primarily because I recently read Hemingway’s memoir, A Moveable Feast, about his time in Paris in the 1920s as a young writer, and I was looking for a film that took place during that period and milieu and I knew this took place during that period and was highly regarded by some as Allen’s best work in the past decade or so. Also, Hemingway plays a prominent character in it.

Well, this one was a stinker for me. The film is essentially what I imagine an English lit undergrad would write as fan fiction about the 1920s Parisian art scene. There’s no depth at all to the film, its just reference and reference of the major figures from the literary and art scene in Paris – “Hey look it’s Hemingway talking about how courage is the greatest virtue above all!” , “Woah there’s Dali acting weird in a bar!”. No surprise that the stand-in for Woody Allen in the film is praised by three of the greatest writers of the 1920s, which is something an overconfident English lit student would also cook up in their fan fiction. Then the central theme of the film about nostalgia is just hammered home over and over and over again, and if I didn’t get the point Allen was trying to get at, he adds a schlocky monologue by Owen Wilson at the end to hammer it into my brain once again. The film made me nostalgic to the time when Woody Allen used some degree of subtlety and wasn’t such a hack.



The actors do a good job camping it up and they seem to be having a ton of fun, but I agree. The script is ridiculously weak.
 

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A reminder that I still mostly watch crap (from best to worst):

Venom: Let There Be Carnage (Serkis, 2021) – Pretty close to the first one in that everything between Brock and Venom is pretty entertaining juvenile fun that gets ruined by the actual story of the movie. I think this one's ending is less of a drag and that I had more fun with it. A very generous 3.5/10.

Doctor Strange (Derrickson, 2016) – Rewatch. Needed something to fall asleep on. Better than I remembered it. I had it at 2.5/10 and it seemed a bit harsh. I'm getting soft on these. 3.5/10

Falling Down (Schumacher, 1993) – I don't think I'd ever seen this one entirely before. It's pretty bad, but I didn't expect a lot more from Schumacher. I wish they'd make a sequel, with him surviving the shots, getting out of the water and refusing to get vaxxed. 2.5/10

The Protégé (Campbell, 2021) – It seems the wold really needed yet another 85 pounds master fighter female assassin. I've seen quite a few of these masterpieces, and I think we have here a winner, possibly the dumbest film I've seen in quite some time. It really has it all, including high action fights between an unbeatable 40+ years old female fighter and an equally bad ass 70 years old + surrogate daddy figure she ends up sleeping with (at that point, the other senior daddy figure she has a weird relation with pretends to be dead, so I guess she needs comforting). In fact, apart from the lady killer, every bad ass here is due for geriatric care. Martin Campbell is almost 80 years old and this film is clearly done as overcompensation. Cliché boring stuff (the last 30 minutes are soooooo boring), with grandpa Samuel Jackson as a lame parody of himself and grandpa Michael Keaton as, well, an irresistible elderly sex symbol. 1.5/10
 
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Don’t Look Up. Politicians are bad. Media is bad. Social media is bad. Corporations are bad. Celebrity worship is bad. We’re stupid. The end. It’s not even that I disagree with some (if not all) of these points to varying degrees, but this painfully unfunny fish-in-a-barrel “satire” almost made me want to order a MAGA hat. Almost.

This is the movie equivalent of that Gal Godot Imagine singalong that got roasted — a bunch of famous people being super pleased with themselves descending from the mountain to share how smart and caring they all are with the poor unwashed masses.

It’s punching down — not in the sense that I feel bad for the targets, but in the sense that the jokes are so obvious and basic there’s nary a laugh to be had. I laughed twice, both at lines from Ron Perlman. It’s an incredibly dumb movie that absolutely thinks it is smart. I would be stunned if Adam McKay never mentioned Network or Dr. Strangelove in his pitch for this.

Beyond its overall tone, it completely whiffs on a lot of small things. Adam McKay co-created Anchorman and Step Brothers, a pair of comedies that succeed and endure in large part because of an accumulation of small details (character names, business names, random line deliveries, costume choices, etc.). There’s none of that detail here.

Add to all that, it’s one of the most obnoxiously edited movies I’ve ever sat through. Senseless cross cutting that creates pace but really felt more like sleight-of-hand to distract you from the fact that there’s really no there there.

Earlier this week I speculated that Jean Luc Godard might make for an obnoxious dinner guest. Adam McKay might be worse.

(Edit: I have since listened to a 20 minute interview with McKay and did he reference those movies? You bet your ass he did!)

I mean, I think I love you. :dunno:

Put me at a dinner table with Adam Mckay and I'm pretty sure I end up in cuffs. Put me at a dinner table with Sorkin and McKay and I eat the electric chair.
 

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I mean, I think I love you. :dunno:

Put me at a dinner table with Adam Mckay and I'm pretty sure I end up in cuffs. Put me at a dinner table with Sorkin and McKay and I eat the electric chair.

I also did not like Being the Ricardos but couldn't even muster the energy to drag it.

I do love a few of McKay's other movies but since his "serious" turn he's increasingly become a Michael Moore impersonator.
 

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I watched Rambo: Last Blood recently. Talk about cutting out needless fluff. This is Rambo getting down to business in a variety of creative ways. The message being: Don't mess with Rambo, his family, his horses, or his breakfast. 7.5/10. The extra .5 is for hammer time.
 

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The Many Saints of Newark

with various people doing impressions of their favourite characters from The Sopranos.

Sopranos prequel movie that exists for no reason other than milking nostalgia money out of the mob movie crowd. It's mostly about Dickie Moltisanti, Tony Soprano's childhood mentor. He was mentioned in the show a few times, mostly as an excuse for Chrissy being annoying because his daddy got whacked once upon a mob time. Now we get to watch him have family troubles against the backdrop of racial strife in late 60's New Jersey. Among other things, he runs numbers in the black neighbourhood, and eventually his black lieutenant gets uppity and goes out on his own. Tony Soprano goes from cherubic child to obnoxious teenager, and Jon Bernthal is wasted as Johnny Boy Soprano. Assorted people do impressions of the Sopranos cast. Tedium happens.

I was really looking forward to this, but was hugely let down. Reminds me a lot of the totally superfluous post-Breaking Bad movie they did to give Jesse Pinkman's character a decent send-off; totally unnecessary cash grab that adds very little to the story. The earlier versions of the Sopranos cast blow. Sylvio Dante is a lot closer to a parody than a presursor. The DiMeo mob guys' behaviour is similar to real mobsters only in that they cheat on their wives without thinking twice and hate black people. Oh yeah...who's Don DiMeo? Still don't know. Yeah, trivia note: it never was the Soprano family, it was always the DiMeo family. Livia Soprano is a pale shadow of the horrible, manipulative harpy she was on the show, and Junior Soprano is still a putz. The guy who played Artie Bucco on the show did him; he finally got his wish to be a Made Guy and he still sucks. The ending falls very flat. Yawn.

It's amazing Tony Soprano didn't become a shoe salesman if these guys were his inspiration.

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Pictured: exactly zero saints.
 
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