Last chance for Dubas and or Keefe?
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We bring in a hockey guy to run hockey operations .. it is pretty simple .. let Dubie stick around to help out with analytics on drafting/recruitment .. new GM hires his own coach .. or maybe MLSE sweeps out Shanny and entre crew and starts over if Shanny does not agree
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I believe Dubas will have the opportunity to trade one or more pieces from the core.
Overall I think he has done a good job of putting together a team that can compete for a cup. They are tougher, grittier and look prepared to sacrifice to win.
Now it's on thecplayers to perform. They all talk the talk but need to get it together. All of them have individually had a good playoff series. Now they need to do it collectively. If they fail again then at least one has to move
Overall I think he has done a good job of putting together a team that can compete for a cup. They are tougher, grittier and look prepared to sacrifice to win.
Now it's on thecplayers to perform. They all talk the talk but need to get it together. All of them have individually had a good playoff series. Now they need to do it collectively. If they fail again then at least one has to move
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Unless you are bringing in a smart GM like Yzerman, no.
We are in our cores prime, we don't have time for a regime change and all the figuring shit out that comes with that.
No rookie GMs and no incompetent GMs like Burke, Nonis, Lamoriello please.
We are in our cores prime, we don't have time for a regime change and all the figuring shit out that comes with that.
No rookie GMs and no incompetent GMs like Burke, Nonis, Lamoriello please.
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This could not have been part of the 1000 other threads on the subject?
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I think its a miracle Keefe wasn't fired after last season. He didn't split up with Matthews/Marner line once - despite them getting bodied by danault for 7 games. Actually crazy - any sane coach would shuffle his lines when losing games - but not Keefe, he held strong!
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Leafs beat the shit out of the Habs with those two on the ice at 5 on 5, they just didn't cash in...
The bigger issue was them not getting the PP going, that cost them series.
The team hit an all time record for points and wins in a season and people still want to fire the GM and coach?
I really hope we don't make any major changes to our front office and coaching staff. We finally have a coach and GM that work harmoniously with one another, and I actually think Kyle is a great GM in this league. He has certainly made mistakes in his tenure, but he's done a phenomenal job overall IMO. I feel extremely comfortable with him steering the ship.
I really do believe it is just a matter of time before this group finds a way to punch their way through. It sucks that it is going to have to go through the B2B champs in R1 to make that happen, but that is unfortunately the way she goes sometimes. It really could be the springboard this group needs to set them off.
that said, I am open to trades if we cannot make something happen this postseason. I am sure Kyle would be as well.
I really do believe it is just a matter of time before this group finds a way to punch their way through. It sucks that it is going to have to go through the B2B champs in R1 to make that happen, but that is unfortunately the way she goes sometimes. It really could be the springboard this group needs to set them off.
that said, I am open to trades if we cannot make something happen this postseason. I am sure Kyle would be as well.
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The bigger issue was Matthews had a wrist injury, that required surgery, and his shooting % was 2.9%, when he is 16.4% career, and higher than that the last two years.
As far as the question... man, what a bunch of defeatists this fan base has. You are already asking "if they lost", expecting it, probably some even hoping for it, so that their regular complaining is proven right.
Enjoy the ride, they've assembled the best leafs team we've seen in a very long time.
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I don't think the Op would be able to add a poll to an existing thread.
Option I'd choose wasn't listed.
Keefe gets fired and a major piece(likely Nylander) is traded.
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Lol. We're less than a week to the playoffs with the best Leaf team ever assembled and we're already acting like we've lost and talking about firing everybody.
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The bolded portion is a fascinating area of discussion. I do think it is healthy and normal to approach a place where you do want some event to occur that will bring the change you feel is necessary for your favorite team to get where it wants to go. I'm not there, personally, yet.
I'd go glass half full on the Leafs getting swept in Round 1, if I knew that occurrence would lead to the removal of Kyle and Sheldon. Now, I don't want that to happen...would greatly prefer to see a series win, but if it does I see potential value there in that changes, that I think necessary, are made.
Has to come a point regardless of how you feel about Kyle and Keefe, that the combination just hasn't succeeded and need to be moved on. A sweep in Round 1, or a pasting in a 5-game series is that point for me.
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Love that the fans of the team 4th in standings want to clean house in the summer
They havn't been together that long. This is the third playoffs and the previous two were under pandemic circumstances.
I doubt either are fired
riffle
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All those Cup winning teams that are irrelevant to you notwithstanding.
This is called vision...and experience. I think most of us, if we're being honest, know it is very unlikely the Leafs beat Tampa and we're mentally preparing for that eventuality.
I get those who say "don't kill my hope, man" ...and I have that hope too, I just think it isn't very likely because that is the most realistic outlook. So, speaking to what is a strong possibility is not so crazy.
EDIT: @Jojalu I doubt that either get fired, too...UNLESS, they get swept or drilled in a 5-game loss.
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Only hope is the people in charge aren't as emotional as the fans are, you would hope they aren't.
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Of course they aren't the preferred opponent but I think they can very much beat Tampa.All those Cup winning teams that are irrelevant to you notwithstanding.
This is called vision...and experience. I think most of us, if we're being honest, know it is very unlikely the Leafs beat Tampa and we're mentally preparing for that eventuality.
I get those who say "don't kill my hope, man" ...and I have that hope too, I just think it isn't very likely because that is the most realistic outlook. So, speaking to what is a strong possibility is not so crazy.
No idea why people join a message board just to tell people what they can and can't discuss. Such insecurity.
It's actually called toxic negativity and pessimism. It is not "very unlikely" that the Leafs beat Tampa. It's a nice even matchup that should be a lot of fun. If we do lose, that's something you deal with and discuss in the offseason, not before the series even starts.
They are still looking to replace Friisdahl (MLSE President) so highly doubtful Shanahan is going anywhere.
If they go out quickly without a fight then I can see Keefe going. Dubas stays as he should.
If they go out quickly without a fight then I can see Keefe going. Dubas stays as he should.
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No, it's based on losing FIVE series in a row and the pattern that is well-established from our stars that they can't get it done in deciding games.
Jack vs. Vasilevskiy? C'mon, man. C'mon. Even? LOL Everyone will tell you that your goalie is the most important person on the ice in the playoffs, and the Leafs have anything but "a nice even matchup" in that category.
Hope is fun. I get it. Experience and vision are important to consider and I have.
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