sounds awesome. until 2-3 years from now when our defense is awful
it has nothing to do with our lack of offensive prospects. Its the fact that larsson is our best d prospect weve had since niedermayer and you want to deal him for a winger after a promising 2 years.
2 years ago you wanted to do a parise for weber swap because stud dmen are so much more valuable than stud wingers. Yet you want to deal a stud d prospect for a stud wing prospect, just hypocritical.
And no glenwo, its not so much to do with the loss of my avatar. Me and datw have always clashed, so its no different in this case. The difference is the influx of new posters that talk out of their ass and clearly have no idea what theyre talking about yet speak in matter of fact fashion. Its no secret the best posters from hf circa 2010 are long gone
Weber was a proven beast at the time of my proposal, Larsson is in the same ballpark as Drouin IMO.
Larsson did play in 100 NHL games but that doesn't really do anything for me since he wasn't a stud coming out of the gates ala Doughty/Subban/Pietrangelo/Karlsson, so we'd be moving potential for potential. Maybe the reason I wouldn't be against such a move is because I don't see Larsson as that legit #1 all around d-man everyone does.
What do Doughty/Karlsson/Pietrangelo/Subban have in common? They are dynamic offensive defenseman. Meaning that their talent and potential will always surface almost immediately and are most obvious because it stands out in goal scoring and point production. However, these players also reach their ceiling much earlier in their career. Larsson is a completely different type of player. He isn't an offensive defenseman like those 4, so he's not going to wow you right away.
Look at Chara/Lidstrom/Pronger, who were elite two-way defenseman. It took years for their games to develop. In Chara's fourth year in the NHL he had 2 goals and 7 assists in 82 games while posting a -27 plus-minus. If you want an elite NHL defenseman and not just an offensive dynamo, you need to give him time to develop. We don't know if Larsson will reach that level yet, but we also don't know if Drouin's game will translate either. 2 years ago Pierre called getting Larsson at 4 the "steal of the draft". If management had your patience we would be in deep ****.
i mean, all fair points....but we're stocked with those defensemen. and looking at our forward depth, we're kind of already in deep ****. i know trading larsson would suck, but sometimes you have to make sacrifices to fill holes
What do Doughty/Karlsson/Pietrangelo/Subban have in common? They are dynamic offensive defenseman. Meaning that their talent and potential will always surface almost immediately and are most obvious because it stands out in goal scoring and point production. However, these players also reach their ceiling much earlier in their career. Larsson is a completely different type of player. He isn't an offensive defenseman like those 4, so he's not going to wow you right away.
Look at Chara/Lidstrom/Pronger, who were elite two-way defenseman. It took years for their games to develop. In Chara's fourth year in the NHL he had 2 goals and 7 assists in 82 games while posting a -27 plus-minus. If you want an elite NHL defenseman and not just an offensive dynamo, you need to give him time to develop. We don't know if Larsson will reach that level yet, but we also don't know if Drouin's game will translate either. 2 years ago Pierre called getting Larsson at 4 the "steal of the draft". If management had your patience we would be in deep ****.
We are not stocked with elite defenseman. Every other prospect we have on defense are second round picks or lower who have yet to play, much less prove anything, in the NHL. Adam Larsson was the best defensive prospect in his entire draft and has played over 100 games. (Not to mention he is younger than Urbom, Gelinas, and Merrill).
We are not stocked with elite defenseman. Every other prospect we have on defense are second round picks or lower who have yet to play, much less prove anything, in the NHL. Adam Larsson was the best defensive prospect in his entire draft and has played over 100 games. (Not to mention he is younger than Urbom, Gelinas, and Merrill).
honestly we dont know what we're stocked with quite yet...but if half of them fill their potential, we should pull the deal. will we lose next season and the next? probably, a lot. sucks for marty. but thats what a rebuild is, something that LL doesnt apparently believe in. hence why we all sit here, hoping for lou to re-sign patty and clarktard like thats all we need to turn it around
And if we do lose next season and the one after...McDavid!
Weber was a proven beast at the time of my proposal, Larsson is in the same ballpark as Drouin IMO.
Larsson did play in 100 NHL games but that doesn't really do anything for me since he wasn't a stud coming out of the gates ala Doughty/Subban/Pietrangelo/Karlsson, so we'd be moving potential for potential. Maybe the reason I wouldn't be against such a move is because I don't see Larsson as that legit #1 all around d-man everyone does.
I've been saying Larsson is the one d-man I would not trade, so I'll stick to it here.
The real question is do you trade Larsson for the #1 overall now that Roy dropped that potential bombshell lol
for those talking about hamilton, despite how great he looked for most of the year, ive seen a lot of struggles from him similar to those we have noticed in larsson as the final stretch of the regular season/playoffs has come.