Rumor: Larkin requests trade

[Zetterberg4Captain]

With Florida maybe

Larkin and Gibson at 50% for
Lundell, Samsoveich and the 9th

I still think Utah is the way to go
Desynoers, But and the 20th for Larkin and something

 

[wingsfannnn9191]

I mean in both of my posts on the idea I suggested there would need to be something else in the deal.

I like Lundell though. I think he'd be a solid pick up. Definitely more appealing than a Yurov/Stramel package imo.

Disagree wouldn’t need to add more . Florida would need to add

 

[JediOrderPizza]

So tell me about this Lundell...Having zero knowledge of the guy and looking at his #'s - he appears to be a slight improvement over Copp.

I'd probably put him in Cirelli territory, later 20s you get some 50-60 pt seasons.

 

[wingsfannnn9191]

I would say it needs to be Connelly, derofyev + picks

Unfortunately they’d never part with dorofeyev. Any deal with Vegas would have to include 1sts 5-6 yrs from today

 

[SirloinUB]

Disagree wouldn’t need to add more . Florida would need to add

Florida would need to add something but good luck with your expectations. I hope you are right.

 

[Coach Reggie Dunlop]

I was on Larkins side for most of this but giving us only a 3 team trade list with teams that don’t have any assets seriously f***s us over. Like that’s absolutely ridiculous. See you in October Dylan, I’d rather watch your career burn here and you be miserable than get nothing in return for you because you demanded only 3 teams to be traded to. That’s ridiculous and unfair to the organization.

 

[RabidBadger]

I dont have any interest in a 32 year old dman to flip. Minny can trade him or Wallstedt and use those assets in a Larkin trade.

Yurov and Stramel both would be coming from Minnesota in a Larkin trade. Wallstedt has the "value" but I highly doubt Yzerman cares to add another goalie.

I will absolutely lose my shit if Larkin is traded for a package that includes Wallstedt without Cossa going the other way for a blockbuster...or he or Cossa are flipped in a different trade.

 

[Waldorf]

Lundell would be fine, he might be yung copp or maybe more. The 9th would need to happen too, maybe we can grab Bjorck. I'd send a 50% retained Gibson, maybe we can throw a pick and get Samoskevich. I know we'd be riding with unproven goalies but next year is going to be rough, may as well embrace it.

 

[TKB]

It upgrades their roster and makes them heavy favorites. It slots Bennett back down a level to his best slot.

They still have 11.5 million to slot to the goalie fix along with 13/14th forward and 7th/8th D.

Okay this one is actually getting interesting.

One thing to keep in mind as well on this whoel deal, as much as Yzerman will not be pressured to do something that doesn't work for him, he is also dealing with preemoinent agent in the business.

Yzerman and Brisson are both very professional and I fully believe this will ultimately work out for both sides without too much acrimony.

 

[Coach Reggie Dunlop]

Lundell would be fine, he might be yung copp or maybe more. The 9th would need to happen too, maybe we can grab Bjorck. I'd send a 50% retained Gibson, maybe we can throw a pick and get Samoskevich.

Absolutely not. Force him to play until he expands his list, otherwise if he doesn’t like it he can sit out and forfeit money. If I was GM I would absolutely not trade him to Florida, in division and we don’t get good assets out of it. If he wants to screw the organization over then we can do it back.

 

[Big Poppa Puck]

Any trade with Minny will need a 3rd team involved who wants a goalie.

 

[wingsfannnn9191]

Florida would need to add something but good luck with your expectations. I hope you are right.

Expectations? Don’t think it’s much they’re getting a #1 c at a great cap hit signed longterm . Lundell and #9 is a starting point . I would much rather have Larkin rot away for two years if we need to start adding pieces to get samoskevich or other Florida spare parts

 

[Waldorf]

Absolutely not. Force him to play until he expands his list, otherwise if he doesn’t like it he can sit out and forfeit money. If I was GM I would absolutely not trade him to Florida, in division and we don’t get good assets out of it. If he wants to screw the organization over then we can do it back.

That's fair, I'm thinking purely in terms of value. A top line of Cat/Lundell/Raymond seems serviceable if you pencil in Kasper as a 2C with a bounce back season.

 

[SuperScript29]

He should have added NJ to the list, then a trade for Hischeir would have been a no brainer.

 

[SirloinUB]

Any trade with Minny will need a 3rd team involved who wants a goalie.

is there any merit to including Wallstadt in the return and then flipping one or two of our goalie prospects elsewhere?

 

[SirloinUB]

Expectations? Don’t think it’s much they’re getting a #1 c at a great cap hit signed longterm . Lundell and #9 is a starting point . I would much rather have Larkin rot away for two years if we need to start adding pieces to get samoskevich or other Florida spare parts

I just think we are over a barrel here. Sure you can play a game of chicken but that is an untenable situation as well and isn't actually guaranteed to yield something better.

My expectations are pretty modest and it's not because I think Larkin has low value.

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

That's fair, I'm thinking purely in terms of value. A top line of Cat/Lundell/Raymond seems serviceable if you pencil in Kasper as a 2C with a bounce back season.

Lundell is a #2C, he just doesn’t have the offense. But the important part of his return is he can check other #1C’s around the league without getting run over.

 

[Leibinger6]

is there any merit to including Wallstadt in the return and then flipping one or two of our goalie prospects elsewhere?

You want to have Bill Guerin find a suitor for Wallstedt to maximize his value. We take a big risk adding him to the deal under the assumption we can flip him for good value.

 

[SirloinUB]

Lundell is a #2C, he just doesn’t have the offense. But the important part of his return is he can check other #1C’s around the league without getting run over.

2C is a fair assessment. He has put up 62 points in his last 87 games. Id say he is blossoming and could grow some more as he enters his prime.

 

[SirloinUB]

You want to have Bill Guerin find a suitor for Wallstedt to maximize his value. We take a big risk adding him to the deal under the assumption we can flip him for good value.

I meant trading one of Cossa/Postava/Augustine somewhere else if Wallstadt is part of the Larkin return.

 

[SuperScript29]

Lundell is a #2C, he just doesn’t have the offense. But the important part of his return is he can check other #1C’s around the league without getting run over.

Lundell would mean we are taking a step back. Yzerman is gonna have to get a legit #1 guy and let Lundell develop into your #2. Do not make the same mistake that we made with Larkin, as in give him a role he's not suitable for.

 

[Waldorf]

Lundell is a #2C, he just doesn’t have the offense. But the important part of his return is he can check other #1C’s around the league without getting run over.

In a good team he's 2C. We are not a good team. He'd be the guy, I think. At least until we draft somebody worth it.

 

[Leibinger6]

Dylan will expand. He won’t play in Detroit, but SY will play hardball.

You think the Florida FO doesn’t know both Vegas and Minny are lacking the necessary assets to get this done?

We’ll eventually need a few more teams to drive up his value.

If I’m Yzerman, I’m telling Dylan’s agent he’ll be in Detroit next year with that 3 team list (if true)

 

[jkutswings]

I think the exact opposite. Yzerman will be patient. He literal job is riding on how this turns out.

I'm not saying Yzerman should rush things. I'm saying that he could wait 24 months and Larkin still isn't returning significantly more than Lundell + 9 overall. The player just isn't worth a ton more than that.

I'm all for targeting an even higher caliber of player in return. But that will require Larkin + additional assets going out.

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

2C is a fair assessment. He has put up 62 points in his last 87 games. Id say he is blossoming and could grow some more as he enters his prime.

He and Raymond could hit it off…

Lundell was given a big opportunity there this year.

They aren’t holding him to play him at #4C there though and need to move out some salary to do this.

There fans will baby Barkov him out of all talks, but I think we tell Larkin to report unless Barkov and the 9th are on the table.