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Player Discussion Lane Hutson: Part 3 - Calder Edition

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themilosh said:
He's a pint sized dmanin a league with huge players. No different mugsey bogues in the NBA. Fun, sure.. but not a game changer. Sooner we can move on the better. Exactly why he slipped to #62.

He's anything but a Dman - rather a 4th Forward.


Sell him now, he's at his highest, and will he seeking $9M/yr.
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Bro would trade Quinn Hughes for Dylan Cozens 💀
 
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themilosh said:
Hutson will always have a disability: inability to defend against bigger players. His stock is at an all time high, what better a time to trade him for a legit 2C or 1RHD prospect.

While I like him, hes nothing more than a circus act atm.
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His passing vision and technical skills are just too good to dismiss.

He might be a fourth forward like Karlsson or Hughes but at his best he will tilt the ice. It’ll allow the Habs to play off the rush, to make life much harder for the opponents when he’s on the ice. He will be frail defensively but in aggregate he’s a net positive.

Finding a steady partner for him won’t be as hard as finding a QB to replace him. Mike Matheson is not a good partner for him. Reino should be better. Even some stooge like Seth Jones.
 
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ReHabs said:
His passing vision and technical skills are just too good to dismiss.

He might be a fourth forward like Karlsson or Hughes but at his best he will tilt the ice. It’ll allow the Habs to play off the rush, to make life much harder for the opponents when he’s on the ice. He will be frail defensively but in aggregate he’s a net positive.

Finding a steady partner for him won’t be as hard as finding a QB to replace him. Mike Matheson is not a good partner for him. Reino should be better. Even some stooge like Seth Jones.
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His vision is elite no doubt, but are you going to pay him a top salary to basically be a PP1 and sheltered as a 2LD?

What do you think he is worth next contract? What he expects will be a lot more than what he is worth, hiven the circumstances.
 
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themilosh said:
His vision is elite no doubt, but are you going to pay him a top salary to basically be a PP1 and sheltered as a 2LD?

What do you think he is worth next contract? What he expects will be a lot more than what he is worth, hiven the circumstances.
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I’d want to see more and then make a judgement. He’s the kind of player where his deficiencies are not hidden, so as much as possible I would push back the extension to have as much data as can be gathered.

Data of his performance against size, speed, targeted forechecks, etc.

With that said, his aggregate contribution is undoubtedly positive and PP goals are goals all the same. I think he’s on track to be worth top-pairing money when he’s in his prime even if he’s not a topX dman.
 
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I swear people don't watch other teams , you'd think all these other defensemen in the league never get beat with how people talk about Hutson deficiencies as a 20 year old , yet every day there's blowouts in the NHL or like 5-2 games regardless of who is playing.....boneheaded plays and lost coverage left and right every night

Like the overaction on the play where Larkin chipped it to himself and cut to the slot , must be the first time Larkin ever made an offensive play on a NHL dman in his life correct?

As if that was the only time Dylan Larkin, a guy who plays 20 minutes a night against the oppositions best dmen , made a good offensive play in his career because it was on Hutson
 
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The Gr8 Dane said:
I swear people don't watch other teams , you'd think all these other defensemen in the league never get beat with how people talk about Hutson deficiencies as a 20 year old , yet every day there's blowouts in the NHL or like 5-2 games regardless of who is playing.....boneheaded plays and lost coverage left and right every night

Like the overaction on the play where Larkin chipped it to himself and cut to the slot , must be the first time Larkin ever made an offensive play on a NHL dman in his life correct?
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Watch other teams? At least half don't even watch this team, yet comment like they know what they're talking about.
 
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Guy Larose said:
Watch other teams? At least half don't even watch this team, yet comment like they know what they're talking about.
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It's embarrassing , it doesn't take much hockey viewing to understand that forwards have an enormous advantage in this league and there's no Dman on the planet that's shutting down guys consistently without a solid team environment around them.

Is Hutson Makar ? No , but he's not even dogmeat defensively like some people think he is
 
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themilosh said:
Playoffs are a different beast.. if Hutson accepts his role as a contributing defender he should be signing an 8 x $7M.. but his agent is going to push the $10M narrative. Watch.
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We will have no issue if Hutson is getting paid 10m, the cap is rising astronomically and that's about what a player of his ilk would be getting paid.

Nor am I concerned about Lane Hutson in the playoffs. I'm more concerned about our inconsistent big bodies in the playoffs than Hutson who brings it every night, even if it's not his best night, his effort and hustle is always there.
 
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WeThreeKings said:
We will have no issue if Hutson is getting paid 10m, the cap is rising astronomically and that's about what a player of his ilk would be getting paid.

Nor am I concerned about Lane Hutson in the playoffs. I'm more concerned about our inconsistent big bodies in the playoffs than Hutson who brings it every night, even if it's not his best night, his effort and hustle is always there.
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$10M per is a #1 Stud D.. Hutson wont be that (but we need to pay him as such)? Like I said, if he re-ups a similar deal like Slaf I will be fine, if he is looking for $10M I'd rather trade him for a legit 1bC 2aC.
 
Grate n Colorful Oz said:
The players who dominate in the playoffs aren't big bodies. The players who dominate are those with high compete.
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True. And there is no doubt Laner has compete.. i like the kid, i enjoy his show. But I'm never going to be sold on paying him #1D money. He's not a #1 or #2... straight up, he is an incredible #2LHD, with PP1 duties.. what is that worth? Imo $7M x 8.. anything more than that, and he should be traded.
 
Sadly, Edmonton will probably f*** everything up with Bouchard's contract and we'll end up paying Hutson 5.8M per or more.
 
themilosh said:
$10M per is a #1 Stud D.. Hutson wont be that (but we need to pay him as such)? Like I said, if he re-ups a similar deal like Slaf I will be fine, if he is looking for $10M I'd rather trade him for a legit 1bC 2aC.
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The cap is going to be 104 million compared to 88 million by the time that extension kicks in. It's not the same percentage of the cap, so it'd actually be equivalent to paying him 7million today.
 
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