Lane Hutson Burgeoning Star Watch

[waffledave]

Lot's of people laughing when I said top 2 in a redraft. Where you at now?

Furiously crunching the numbers on Nemec's AHL advanced stats.

 

[JeffreyLFC]

HFboard

I do not think it's hfboards related. HFboards is usually very much enthusiastic about talented youngster.

I do believe it's more Habs related (largest fanbase around here) or people that claimed he would be a trainwreck defensively in the NHL in the past trying to justify that poor assessment.

 

[Lshap]

I can see the style similarity in the offensive zone so I get the comparisons for sure. Exciting player and no reason to not be hyped if you are a Montreal fan. I would not jump to Makar or Hughes comparisons though, they arent needed at this point and its asking a lot of the kid a bit too early. Style wise with the headfakes theres definitely something there to the comparison, but probably best to enjoy his play and get hyped without it becoming about the comparison.

These threads get too bogged down by comparing young guys to established stars/superstars too much and it just sets off meaningless convos about the comparisons instead of appreciating a great young player doing exciting things.

When we measure a rookie's performance, how else can we determine where he stands other than finding similar players to compare him to? That said, I admit some of the enthusiasm over Hutson comes across as, "My player is better than yours", which nobody appreciates. It would be great if we could discuss future potential and present performance without getting hypersensitive about either.

Even if your numbers were correct, it wouldn't be negative for the first 5 years as year one wasn't negative, but your numbers are only picking up the first 4 years. 0 in year 1, -2 in year 2, -14 in year 3, -16 in year 3 (-1 with FLA and -15 with TBL) and +9 in year 5.

Thanks for the stat correction. I counted one season twice because he played with two teams.

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

2022 could be a huge draft for the Montreal Canadiens

Lane Hutson
Juraj Slafkovsky
Owen Beck
Adam Engstrom

 

[LuGBuG]

I think almost every habs fan were willing to accept the trade off of subpar defense for good offense. He’s par defensively for his usage and exceeded the offensive production expectations so far.. if anything your typical all out crazy habs glazer is holding back a lot when talking about this player lol

It’s not often dynamic offensive defensmen are also shut down defenseman. Like I said I still think he will be perfectly adequate at the very least defensively which is a win with his offensive prowess. I think he will be very good eventually in his own zone while being dominant in the offensive zone. You are going to see a lot of Hutson PPA on Caufield PPG for the next decade.

 

[Essenege]

Let's not go that far. He's not even close to Hughes in his own end.

But he's definitely projecting that way.

I’ve seen Q. Hughes play the most in the COVID year against the Habs, and he was such a tire fire defensively. Now I see him more sporadically but he’s improved so much - I wouldn’t have said that back then.

Now for Lane, he came out of the gate much better then I thought he would defensively. Obviously skating, IQ and fast transition will always be his main tools to limit opponents chances but he’s not bad in 1v1 battle, he has a good stick and low centre of gravity and his so combative. All around I think he projects to Hughes both offensively and defensively - although he’s not there yet.

 

[Quinning]

2022 could be a huge draft for the Montreal Canadiens

Lane Hutson
Juraj Slafkovsky
Owen Beck
Adam Engstrom

Pretty insane that they got the 1st overall pick that year, and it's not the best player they drafted.

 

[Doom Bot]

2022 could be a huge draft for the Montreal Canadiens

Lane Hutson
Juraj Slafkovsky
Owen Beck
Adam Engstrom

Might start pretending they drafted Slaf at 62 lol

 

[Craig Ludwig]

Who is better than Hutson on that draft?

I just looked at the 2022 draft and I think you're right, as crazy as that sounds....I'm a Habs fan and wear Habs fan goggles, but it's hard for the other fan bases to argue this point. 62nd overall the best pick of the draft, you don't see that very often at all. I can only think of Kucherov (58th in 2011), and Bure (#113 in 1989) if he had not busted his knee, but both had Russian doubts associated with the pick.

 

[windycity]

It’s not often dynamic offensive defensmen are also shut down defenseman. Like I said I still think he will be perfectly adequate at the very least defensively which is a win with his offensive prowess. I think he will be very good eventually in his own zone while being dominant in the offensive zone. You are going to see a lot of Hutson PPA on Caufield PPG for the next decade.

Wait for Demidov

 

[MXD]

I just looked at the 2022 draft and I think you're right, as crazy as that sounds....I'm a Habs fan and wear Habs fan goggles, but it's hard for the other fan bases to argue this point. 62nd overall the best pick of the draft, you don't see that very often at all. I can only think of Kucherov (58th in 2011), and Bure (#113 in 1989) if he had not busted his knee, but both had Russian doubts associated with the pick.

Come on now, there's a 7X Norris winner drafted in 1989.

 

[Craig Ludwig]

Come on now, there's a 7X Norris winner drafted in 1989.

Great point, missed that. Lidstrom #53 overall best pick of the draft.

 

[BLONG7]

It’s not often dynamic offensive defensmen are also shut down defenseman. Like I said I still think he will be perfectly adequate at the very least defensively which is a win with his offensive prowess. I think he will be very good eventually in his own zone while being dominant in the offensive zone. You are going to see a lot of Hutson PPA on Caufield PPG for the next decade.

Hutson has a game very similar to Karlsson......top notch offensively, and some work to do in the Dzone........similar.
The kid has some amazing puck moving skills, but tends to skate it out with ease most nights....

 

[a mangy Meowth]

So far he's averaging nearly 3 pages per point scored. Impressive fervor by habs fans

 

[Breakfast of Champs]

He needs to develop in the ahl!

But in all seriousness I don't wanna get too cocky ala the mochkov fans proclaiming 90 pts was possible this year. But.....damn this guy is amazing , maybe the best rookie the habs have had in my lifetime, definitely on D. Calder or not he's a star in the making and a very , very good player already

 

[Frank Drebin]

Might start pretending they drafted Slaf at 62 lol

Demidov 1
Hutson 5
Slaf 5
Rein 62

 

[Phrasing]

I think he's pretty good. If the goal is to match or surpass Hughes' p/g numbers from his rookie year I think he's got it in him easily.

Different post-draft years.

 

[Doom Bot]

Demidov 1
Hutson 5
Slaf 5
Rein 62

https://media.tenor.com/VmF_BLOy2z4AAAAM/notbad-basketball.gif

 

[waitin425]

T-7 in all defencemen scoring
#1 in rookie scoring

20 year old rookie.

Sky is the limit.

 

[Phrasing]

When we measure a rookie's performance, how else can we determine where he stands other than finding similar players to compare him to? That said, I admit some of the enthusiasm over Hutson comes across as, "My player is better than yours", which nobody appreciates. It would be great if we could discuss future potential and present performance without getting hypersensitive about either.


Thanks for the stat correction. I counted one season twice because he played with two teams.

You've got numerous posts saying he's already better than Hughes. Not everyone is measured. If you're going to have hyperbolic posts one way, you should expect it the other way as well. Trouble is having to wade through all those posts.

 

[Tralfamadore]

Different post-draft years.

So?

 

[Favster]

Watching the Habs vs Nucks last night I don't understand the Hughes (I wanted him instead of KK btw) and Hutson stylistic comparison. Hughes is just an unbelievable skater and amazing QB with great poise, I am a huge fan. Hutson seems to have a better offensive mind with the puck on his stick but is not in Hughes league at all when it comes to skating. They're both amazing players that control the game in different ways.

 

[Frank Drebin]

Quinn Hughes is just amazing
Every time i watch him play he’s just so impressive

 

[Quinning]

Dude got on the Marty St Louis leg regimen

 

[Guy Larose]

Watching the Habs vs Nucks last night I don't understand the Hughes (I wanted him instead of KK btw) and Hutson stylistic comparison. Hughes is just an unbelievable skater and amazing QB with great poise, I am a huge fan. Hutson seems to have a better offensive mind with the puck on his stick but is not in Hughes league at all when it comes to skating. They're both amazing players that control the game in different ways.

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