Lane Hutson Burgeoning Star Watch
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Agalloch
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Because he plays a lot. That's easy maths. I like him but we will never win a cup with him as your 1st d-man.
keep it up, bro. You'll have a stack of these in no time:
I just don't see the point of your post.
Gravity
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That's a lot of certainty for a purely speculative statement.
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Grate n Colorful Oz
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More than half of that comes from empty net situations:
He's -6 in non-empty net ES, which isn't all that bad considering his age, being pushed into tough situations and often having lousy partners like Matheson and Savard.
He's also pacing to pass Quinn Hughes in the top 15 best rookie dmen in points and top 5 all-time in assists. As he gains experience, he might pace higher in the second half.
PainForShane
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Jeezus. I'm a neutral here (fan of the former team once known as the Arizona Coyotes) and I'm offended by your post on behalf of other Habs fans.
Hutson is young. There is EVERY chance that in the next 3-5 years he'll figure out how to play D in his own zone (and in the neutral zone as well). If he does that while at least maintaining (most likely developing) his offensive instincts, he's at least a top pairing D and most likely a legitimate #1.
Meanwhile, the Habs won't be competing AT LEAST for the next 3-5 years and maybe more than that. So Hutson has at least the next 3-5 years to improve, he'll have every chance to work on his defensive game because he's already earning a regular shift. If he sorts things out during that time (which imo is rather likely) most likely he'll become a true #1 by the time the Habs are ready to compete.
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In the meantime, "I just don't see the point of your post" because it seems you're assuming Hutson can't / won't improve from where he is right now, which is a 20 year old defenseman playing hard minutes in the NHL. Which is already quite impressive, most D-men his age aren't even playing in the NHL let alone showing flashes of offensive dominance. The way he's playing so far in his career should be celebrated by hockey fans across the league, not just by Habs fans.
Assuming you're a Habs fan, you need to do better. You have a very good young player in Hutson.
He doesn't need to be a Norris winning Dman to be a key piece for the Habs when they're at their peak, even though there is a chance he could become that. He's obviously got a lot to work on, like almost every 20 year olf defensemen in the N does but if you can't see his that his skill level is outrageous, I don't know what to tell you man.
I do think Habs fans overrate a lot of their prospects but if going through this thread he's getting underrated by other fanbases. Now is that because they don't like the player or because he plays for the Habs? I think most rational people around here know the answer to that question.
Lane Hutson is dynamite.
Lafleurs Guy
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To be fair to Montreal fans, we’ve had some decent prospects over the years and the absolute worst development. No those players weren’t going to be superstars, but they should’ve turned out better than they did. The entire Bergevin tenure was a black hole. Therrien in the NHL and Sylvain Lefebvre in the AHL. It was a place where prospects went to die. A guy like Hutson for example would never have been able to develop because they would’ve wanted him to ‘grind, grind grind…’ incredibly stupid.
Montreal has finally figured out that drafting and development is important. They’ve got a nice prospect pool coming up. Some will pan out and some won’t. But it’s a good group.
As for Hutson, he looks great. Star player for sure. He’ll always have limitations but overall he’s got great vision and is better defensively than I expected. Homerun for 62nd overall. I think he’ll be the best player in that draft including Slafkovsky who the team drafted 1st overall.
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Yes. Just like 80% of the recent norris winner have not won a cup: Hughes, Josi, Karlsson, Fox, Giordano. They are still very good defenseman.
I mean Stanley Cup is very hard to win but it is not relient only on 1 player to make that difference. I think Hutson at his peak will contend for the Norris trophy which is not unreasonable from what I've seen of him.
Quinn Hughes defensive metrics were much better than Hutson's. So you're "watching him play" thing is just nonsense.
Yup.
Hughes' xGA/60 was the best among Canucks defenseman in his rookie year
Hutson's xGA/60 is the worst among regular Montreal defenseman.
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Imagine writing off a rookie as a top pairing defenseman as he's 0.7ppg through his 32 game career.
Seems like it's just been 90 pages of people writing him off and saying he's destined to fail and habs fans pleading with people to just give him some time to show what he's made of, he's showing a lot of good things...definitely rooting for him.
"habs fans just pleading with people to give him some time to show what he's made of"
Not sure how accurate this part is.
Grate n Colorful Oz
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Hughes was 2.46 (xGA/60) while Hutson is 3.08, but the former was playing with Tavev, had better forwards and had Markstrom and Demko in net.
The actual difference is minimal when you consider the different rosters. Expected stats are nice an'all, but they don't account for quality of linemates despite being a line driven stat.
Let's also see where Hutson stands with more games and progression torwards the end of the season.
There's also not much difference in actual output, where Hughes had an actual GA/60 of 2.86 to Hutson's 3.16, despite a much better roster.
Hughes had the best xGA/60 among Canucks dmen, Hutson has the worst among Habs dmen.
Goaltenders don't effect xGA/60.
The fact that Hughes had the best xGA/60 numbers on a stronger Canucks team makes it even more impressive.
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Hutson could shoot a dozen eggs and not break any but rest his game is fun to watch
Sting
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Kind of reminds you of the response Karlsson got on here. Didn't matter how dominant he was, how many points he put up, he'd still get slammed on here from the usual cast of characters, one of them being yourself. You should be well prepared. The difference I guess was that at least pre=Cooke slice, EK could bail himself out of pretty much every defensive zone encounter. Hutson will need to improve that aspect a lot or you're going to see even more highlight reel plays against him.
He may not break em, but he'd put em off the post from mid range if he needed to.
Dude is an absolute sniper from that distance. I think people are going to be surprised with how many goals he scores in the next few years.
SannywithoutCompy
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His shot really isn't that bad. He's beaten goalies clean numerous times this year but hit a few posts. He's never going to be Souray but he'll get his goals
Grate n Colorful Oz
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You've already said this, yet don't seem to realize the differences are minimal, when most Habs Ds are under 0.30 in difference with Hutson. Hutson is getting the most ESTOI, which often drives those small differences.
Yes they do, because shot quality Is counted through average shot percentage for each particular situations/positions. A good goalie or a bad goalie will skew the outcome.
Or shows he was partly sheltered.
That's not how that works. Guhle has the next highest 5v5 TOI and still has the 2nd best xGA.60 on the team.
that's really not how that works
As is Hutson.
There's no objective measure that supports the conclusion that Hutson was as good as Hughes defensively. They eye test supports this as well.
SannywithoutCompy
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Yeah I really don't think there's any shame in saying Hughes was better at the same age and will likely continue to be better considering he's arguably the best defenseman in the league lol. Hutson will be Hutson, and it's gonna be a lot of fun to watch his career. Wouldn't be shocked to see him sniff PPG some seasons once Montreal's offense rounds out.
