Lane Hutson Burgeoning Star Watch

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I don't think they should be compared. His style of play is closer to Makar (without the speed and the shot) than he is to Hughes


If your spreadsheet says otherwise then I agree with you.
Right now Hutson is more like Makar (moves the puck by carrying it more than a pure passer) but he’s a rookie still figuring out how he needs to play to be his best. IMO he will learn that he will be a better player if he uses his elite skating to create space to pass the puck.
 

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No. Hutson absolutely made the right read there. The high forward didn’t track back soon enough. The game is super fast and some guys don’t process quickly enough. Not sure who #40 is on the Habs, but that’s the guy.
That's exactly what I mentioned moments earlier in my post. The blame is on Heineman, Armia and Struble.
 

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No. Hutson absolutely made the right read there. The high forward didn’t track back soon enough. The game is super fast and some guys don’t process quickly enough. Not sure who #40 is on the Habs, but that’s the guy.
Blaming the forward who made an excellent pass to an open man in a prime shooting location instead of the dman who got caught completely out of position.
 

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The forward got the puck on his forehand in a prime shooting location.

You shoot that puck.

You do not look to see if your dman is cheating in.
Sure, shoot or pass. But if shoot got to hit the net. And still it’s the high forward who made a late read (#40) on the play. In no way was this goal a result of Hutson’s read.
 

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That's exactly what I mentioned moments earlier in my post. The blame is on Heineman, Armia and Struble.
Blame on:

-Guy who wins a battle and makes an excellent pass to a forward in a prime scoring location
-Guy who gets the puck in a prime shooting location and shoots said puck.
-Dman who fails to defend a 2 on 1 by 2 of the best offensive weapons in the NHL

Hutson is held to a lower standard than your 4th line scrubs and bottom pairing dmen, and that says a lot
 
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Sure, shoot or pass. But if shoot got to hit the net. And still it’s the high forward who made a late read (#40) on the play. In no way was this goal a result of Hutson’s read.
#40 was the one who won the puck down below the faceoff dot and made a great feed to an open man for a quality scoring chance.

Now he's also supposed to cover for hutson at the other end?
 

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Right now Hutson is more like Makar (moves the puck by carrying it more than a pure passer) but he’s a rookie still figuring out how he needs to play to be his best. IMO he will learn that he will be a better player if he uses his elite skating to create space to pass the puck.
I think he's already elite at that. He does need to work on his shot, that'll make him even more dangerous as it will open up more possibilities. Defenders won't cheat as much if they know he can snipe it. Eventually he'll join the elite of the league. It's only a matter of time. He needs another 3-4 years before he settle as an elite player but I mostly agree with you.
 

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I'd caution against trying to make fun of other teams' draft picks when your team is coming off three straight bottom 5 finishes, and looks like the worst team in the league so far this season. I fear like there might be flaws in the Habs' scouting process as well.:dunno:
Since 2015, NJ have drafted in the top10 7 times. If habs scouting have flaws, so the devils.......
 

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Blame on:

-Guy who wins a battle and makes an excellent pass to a forward in a prime scoring location
-Guy who gets the puck in a prime shooting location and shoots said puck.
-Dman who fails to defend a 2 on 1 by 2 of the best offensive weapons in the NHL

Hutson is held to a lower standard than your 4th line scrubs and bottom pairing dmen, and that says a lot
#40 made a late read of the play. He’s the high forward. It’s his responsibility to read the play and react sooner.
 

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Either Hutson commit to the play or he doesn't. As someone who claim to have played college hockey, you should know better. I can count 3 key (bad) play from Montreal players that led to that goal and none is Hutson's.

1) Heineman should have AT WORST hit the net/goalie. You have plenty of time to rip one out and you're supposed to be a sniper. The turnover is on him.

2) If anyone got beat on that play, it was Armia. Hughes was his assignment.

3) I have no idea what Struble was doing there. That awkward chicken dance was a sight to see. He should have realized that Armia was beat and should have gave the shot to Bratt and cut down the passing lane. He was in such an awkward position for no reason. That led to Hughes blowing past him and an easy pass for Bratt. Didn't even need a saucer.


You're down 3-2 with 13 minutes left in the game and you think he should not commit to the play and hold back? Is that it?
Hutson can commit offensively to plays all he wants. If he allows high danger scoring chances against because of his focus offensively, people are perfectly free to call that out. He committed offensively to the play, left himself in a situation where he couldn't recover, and the Devils scored as a result.

Man, you really are all about making excuses for Hutson, aren't you? You're blaming 3 other players for the 2 on 1 against that Hutson caused. One of them being Emil Heineman who, bless his soul, is a 10 minutes per game player on one of the worst teams in the NHL. OF COURSE he's going to shoot that puck, and OF COURSE it has a decent chance to miss the net. One of them being Armia, who recovered the puck and created the scoring chance, and one of them being the poor D-man who was left defending a 2 on 1 because of Hutson.

But you don't blame Hutson? Wild.
Your assessment is all off. There was no 'turnover', it was a 50/50 dump in, that Montreal recovered, the right handed forward gets possession and passes Heineman that puck. Hutson has eyes on it the whole time and is reading the play.

If Heinemen had better awareness/vision he'd probably have more than 1 assist. Like it's really not at all a stretch to think or even expect an NHL player to make that pass over. :dunno: By a one-touch, or just quicker execution.

But i do know for sure, that you can't miss the net there even if Hughes influences it. He has more than enough time as an NHL forward to either get a legit shot off or make the play to Hutson.

This is just ignorance of the nuances of the game and mob mentality on this website (again not specifically directed at you).
Kovacevik had body position and was first to the puck. I'd count that as a turnover. Regardless, it's definitely a bang-bang play.

Heineman has the lowest TOI on a bad team. I'd expect a very good NHL players to react to that pass by not immediately firing the puck toward the net. If a third liner on the Jets got the puck in that position and reacted by scanning the ice and deliver a crisp pass to a D-man that has moved below the hash marks, I'd be stunned.

If Hutson doesn't glide down below the hashmarks, how much does that reduce his chance to recover a potential rebound? And how much does it improve his chances to not give up a game-killing goal against?
 

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Yup, defending is 100% the responsiblity of the 4th line forward on his knee with the puck at the red line
 

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Right now Hutson is more like Makar (moves the puck by carrying it more than a pure passer) but he’s a rookie still figuring out how he needs to play to be his best. IMO he will learn that he will be a better player if he uses his elite skating to create space to pass the puck.

..he's not even Tom Kurvers, Dave Babych or Steve Duchene yet.
 

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I think he's already elite at that. He does need to work on his shot, that'll make him even more dangerous as it will open up more possibilities. Defenders won't cheat as much if they know he can snipe it. Eventually he'll join the elite of the league. It's only a matter of time. He needs another 3-4 years before he settle as an elite player but I mostly agree with you.
In the O Zone sure he can create with his feet. In the other two zones he needs to use those feet to create space to pass the puck up the ice. Then he’s behind the puck, and in much better position to play his defensive position. That comes only with coaching, experience, and the desire to be better. Imo Hutson has part 3. Not too sure if St. Louis is the right coach. Experience might take a couple years.
 

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I'd caution against trying to make fun of other teams' draft picks when your team is coming off three straight bottom 5 finishes, and looks like the worst team in the league so far this season. I fear like there might be flaws in the Habs' scouting process as well.:dunno:
Three straight? We should be in the hunt!

Really putting on an awesome display of knowledge and wisdom in this thread so far
 

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Why are people always so mad about Luke Hughes? He’s been very reliable this season, habs fans can just enjoy Hutson without comparing him to anybody.
 
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Hutson can commit offensively to plays all he wants. If he allows high danger scoring chances against because of his focus offensively, people are perfectly free to call that out. He committed offensively to the play, left himself in a situation where he couldn't recover, and the Devils scored as a result.

Man, you really are all about making excuses for Hutson, aren't you? You're blaming 3 other players for the 2 on 1 against that Hutson caused. One of them being Emil Heineman who, bless his soul, is a 10 minutes per game player on one of the worst teams in the NHL. OF COURSE he's going to shoot that puck, and OF COURSE it has a decent chance to miss the net. One of them being Armia, who recovered the puck and created the scoring chance, and one of them being the poor D-man who was left defending a 2 on 1 because of Hutson.

But you don't blame Hutson? Wild.

Kovacevik had body position and was first to the puck. I'd count that as a turnover. Regardless, it's definitely a bang-bang play.

Heineman has the lowest TOI on a bad team. I'd expect a very good NHL players to react to that pass by not immediately firing the puck toward the net. If a third liner on the Jets got the puck in that position and reacted by scanning the ice and deliver a crisp pass to a D-man that has moved below the hash marks, I'd be stunned.

If Hutson doesn't glide down below the hashmarks, how much does that reduce his chance to recover a potential rebound? And how much does it improve his chances to not give up a game-killing goal against?
It seems pretty clear that Hutson would have to turn around and score on his own net to get blame from some fans.
 

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Blame on:

-Guy who wins a battle and makes an excellent pass to a forward in a prime scoring location
-Guy who gets the puck in a prime shooting location and shoots said puck.
-Dman who fails to defend a 2 on 1 by 2 of the best offensive weapons in the NHL

Hutson is held to a lower standard than your 4th line scrubs and bottom pairing dmen, and that says a lot
- He was also covering the point and got beat cleanly by Hughes. I agree though not entirely his fault.
- Shot the puck wide 15 feet out when you're supposed to be a sniper is unacceptable.
- Defend is a weird choice of word here. When you're defending a 2 on 1 and you get beat at the blue line it's not really a good look.

It’s #40. Not too sure the players name. But he was the high forward. That’s a missed read. Happens a lot in the league.
Yeah, that's Armia.
#40 was the one who won the puck down below the faceoff dot and made a great feed to an open man for a quality scoring chance.

Now he's also supposed to cover for hutson at the other end?
Absolutely. That's how hockey work. When Heineman shot it wide, Armia assignment on the backcheck became Hughes. Struble should have realized Armia was beat and play like every 2 on 1 should be played by killing the passing lane and if the attacker gets too deep or too far outside the ears pressure him (by that time the puck carrier usually have slowed down the play and that should allow Armia to catch up to Hughes).
 

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Three straight? We should be in the hunt!

Really putting on an awesome display of knowledge and wisdom in this thread so far
I thought my point was evident, but apparently it flew right above your head, so let me explain it:

The Habs are drafting high year after year right now because their drafting in the past 10 years have been awful.

Did you understand this time, or are you going to come up with another snippy remark because you miss the point?
 

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I thought my point was evident, but apparently it flew right above your head, so let me explain it:

The Habs are drafting high year after year right now because their drafting in the past 10 years have been awful.

Did you understand this time, or are you going to come up with another snippy remark because you miss the point?
Oh, you're taking a shot at Montreals former management. Yeah, they were bad.

But I am enjoying your postings today. Perhaps not in a way you'd hope but I am enjoying them regardless.

"take it back to frame 46 here..."
 

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- He was also covering the point and got beat cleanly by Hughes. I agree though not entirely his fault.
- Shot the puck wide 15 feet out when you're supposed to be a sniper is unacceptable.
- Defend is a weird choice of word here. When you're defending a 2 on 1 and you get beat at the blue line it's not really a good look.


Yeah, that's Armia.

Absolutely. That's how hockey work. When Heineman shot it wide, Armia assignment on the backcheck became Hughes. Struble should have realized Armia was beat and play like every 2 on 1 should be played by killing the passing lane and if the attacker gets too deep or too far outside the ears pressure him (by that time the puck carrier usually have slowed down the play and that should allow Armia to catch up to Hughes).
Lmao.
Hutson put himself in a bad position and you're blaming the 4th line forward who made a great pass for not also bailing hutson out by outskating JACK HUGHES on the backcheck (Hutson was right beside Jack)

It seems like the exact spot Hutson should have been in, was the exact spot the puck came out to Jesper Bratt
 

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