Landeskog returns. Avs loan him to AHL for conditioning stint

Anyone watch the game have insight on how he looked? Obviously having a couple points (including the game tying goal on the PP) is huge, but he was also a -1.

Was it incidental that he was on the ice for 2 goals? Or did he make some serious blunders?
 
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Anyone watch the game have insight on how he looked? Obviously having a couple points (including the game tying goal on the PP) is huge, but he was also a -1.

Was it incidental that he was on the ice for 2 goals? Or did he make some serious blunders?

You could just visit the board you are a fan of once in a while. 🤣

We had a GDT for both games with tons of highlights posted.

His goal was a classic Landy goal; net front on the PP and redirected the point shot past the goalie. His assist came off winning the faceoff on an earlier power play. He was hitting guys and getting into scuffles.

Landy is ready.
 
For those who are saying this is cap circumvention, you can’t really compare it to the other ones we’ve seen, like Stone or Kucherov. Stone and Kucherov didn’t miss 3 years then came back in the playoffs. Completely different situation and injury.

Watching Landy’s documentary, his road to recovery and everything he’s doing to get back is all scientific, precise and timely. It’s not an injury where he got hurt to start the season or half way into the season then came back in the playoffs like Stone and Kucherov
We can and we will.
 
You could just visit the board you are a fan of once in a while. 🤣

We had a GDT for both games with tons of highlights posted.

His goal was a classic Landy goal; net front on the PP and redirected the point shot past the goalie. His assist came off winning the faceoff on an earlier power play. He was hitting guys and getting into scuffles.

Landy is ready.
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I'm sure it's been said already, but this feels more like a now or never scenario for Landeskog. He's likely worked it out that if he can't make this conditioning stint work than he's missing the playoffs.
In which case I sincerely hope for the best that Landeskog will be in the playoff lineup
 
The toxicity of this place sometimes ..

Your sense of entitlement is disgusting. It's a main board thread on a hockey forum.

He should follow a new sport...

Someone has an opinion you don't like about the sport of hockey, on a public hockey forum and here you are telling this man he doesn't belong.

You should grow the f*** up is what you should do. The only one here thata being an ass hat, is you.

Landeskogs comeback story is just amazing.

He's coming back from a surgery noone else has ever in NHL history. It's so incredible.

Hfs crabs in the bucket syndrome is growing out of control these days.
Well, if Oilslick wasn’t being such an ignoramus then maybe he wouldn’t get such a response. His assertion and insistence that Landeskog’s situation is one and the same as Stone and Kucherov was highly uninformed, wrong and frankly, idiotic. I could forgive his being uninformed about his stance but if you’re going to post at the same time and then dig in, it’s unsurprising he got the response which he did. Nevertheless, I agree it was unduly harsh just like your criticism. FTR, I could care less if Oilslick posts his simplistic analysis. Oilslick thinks he’s being principled with his stance but he isn’t. I already explained why his position is wrong in a reply in this thread.
 
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Well, if Oilslick wasn’t being such an ignoramus then maybe he wouldn’t get such a response. His assertion and insistence that Landeskog’s situation is one and the same as Stone and Kucherov was highly uninformed, wrong and frankly, idiotic. I could forgive his being uninformed about his stance but if you’re going to post at the same time and then dig in, it’s unsurprising he got the response which he did. Nevertheless, I agree it was unduly harsh just like your criticism. FTR, I could care less if Oilslick posts his simplistic analysis. Oilslick thinks he’s being principled with his stance but he isn’t. I already explained why his position is wrong in a reply in this thread.
So many oversimplifications. I just said cap needs apply in the playoffs. Never said anything about the avalanche or landeskog personally except for them probably knowing he would return. He’s been skating with the team for a while so it’s not really as surprising he returns just in time for game 83.

You’d like I posted a manifesto on how awful the avalanche are and made wild personal attacks on the fanbase and players the way you are talking.
 
So many oversimplifications. I just said cap needs apply in the playoffs. Never said anything about the avalanche or landeskog personally except for them probably knowing he would return. He’s been skating with the team for a while so it’s not really as surprising he returns just in time for game 83.

You’d like I posted a manifesto on how awful the avalanche are and made wild personal attacks on the fanbase and players the way you are talking.

Here’s an article on why the majority of GMs are reluctant to impose a cap on the POs. It’s not so simplistic.


“NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly said there's a majority appetite across the league's 32 general managers to potentially tweak the system, but the way cap space is accumulated and calculated in-season doesn't make for a simple equation.”

It’s not as simplistic a fix as you paint it

Have you closely followed Landeskog’s recovery? It sure doesn’t sound like it.

You wrote, “ Never said anything about the avalanche or landeskog personally except for them probably knowing he would return. He’s been skating with the team for a while so it’s not really as surprising he returns just in time for game 83.“

BTW, I was unable to bold this particular part of your quote which is IMO both presumptuous and egregious.

“except for them probably knowing he would return.”

Not even when Landeskog first began skating did Avs fans automatically assume he could return to the NHL as you seem to. Your position takes liberties in your assumptions. Skating doesn’t mean Landeskog would be ready to play in the NHL. That’s one reason why I, as an Avs fan, think Stars fans are taking a big leap in assuming Miro would be effective in the POs if he returns early. RECOVERY IS A PROCESS. In fairness, the conditioning stint proved Landeskog is well on his way to returning but even now, most knowledgeable Avs fans aren’t penciling him in as 1LW.

I thought about it a bit more and you strike me as the sort of person that hasn’t fully thought through the ramifications of your position. Is there a problem that needs to be fixed with LTIR cap abuse? Yes. Is there a value to allow players on LTIR to use that program without their team being hobbled and penalized by the cap? Yes. You certainly don’t want to create a disincentive for teams and their players to avail themselves of LTIR if they’re qualified to do so.

So how do you address both interests without impairing one or the other? It requires looking for a thoughtful, considered solution. The position you take hobbles the second interest. What to do? Well I suggested an IME because it forecloses abusing the LTIR for cap related purposes. Isn’t that the problem which you want to focus on? What’s the problem with that? Even if you think an IME is problematic then you at least ought to state why.

Your position isn’t wise and it’s too restrictive. I suspect if you’d have been Solomon then you would’ve cut the baby in half. Both unwise and not really a well thought out, considered much less creative solution. So try again.

BTW, spare me your invocation of the martyr syndrome. Focus on fixing the problem the right way. In this reality we call that keeping your eye on the ball.
 
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As a Colorado resident, I’d hope he gets a return somewhat similar to what Montreal gave Saku Koivu when he came back to cancer. That was one of the coolest things I’ve ever seen in sports, period. I watched that game and apparently needed to dust my place that night. Obviously what Landy has gone through isn’t life or death like that but it’s still good for the soul.
 
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Here’s an article on why the majority of GMs are reluctant to impose a cap on the POs. It’s not so simplistic.


“NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly said there's a majority appetite across the league's 32 general managers to potentially tweak the system, but the way cap space is accumulated and calculated in-season doesn't make for a simple equation.”

It’s not as simplistic a fix as you paint it

Have you closely followed Landeskog’s recovery? It sure doesn’t sound like it.

You wrote, “ Never said anything about the avalanche or landeskog personally except for them probably knowing he would return. He’s been skating with the team for a while so it’s not really as surprising he returns just in time for game 83.“

BTW, I was unable to bold this particular part of your quote which is IMO both presumptuous and egregious.

“except for them probably knowing he would return.”

Not even when Landeskog first began skating did Avs fans automatically assume he could return to the NHL as you seem to. Your position takes liberties in your assumptions. Skating doesn’t mean Landeskog would be ready to play in the NHL. That’s one reason why I, as an Avs fan, think Stars fans are taking a big leap in assuming Miro would be effective in the POs if he returns early. RECOVERY IS A PROCESS. In fairness, the conditioning stint proved Landeskog is well on his way to returning but even now, most knowledgeable Avs fans aren’t penciling him in as 1LW.

I thought about it a bit more and you strike me as the sort of person that hasn’t fully thought through the ramifications of your position. Is there a problem that needs to be fixed with LTIR cap abuse? Yes. Is there a value to allow players on LTIR to use that program without their team being hobbled and penalized by the cap? Yes. You certainly don’t want to create a disincentive for teams and their players to avail themselves of LTIR if they’re qualified to do so.

So how do you address both interests without impairing one or the other? It requires looking for a thoughtful, considered solution. The position you take hobbles the second interest. What to do? Well I suggested an IME because it forecloses abusing the LTIR for cap related purposes. Isn’t that the problem which you want to focus on? What’s the problem with that? Even if you think an IME is problematic then you at least ought to state why.

Your position isn’t wise and it’s too restrictive. I suspect if you’d have been Solomon then you would’ve cut the baby in half. Both unwise and not really a well thought out, considered much less creative solution. So try again.

BTW, spare me your invocation of the martyr syndrome. Focus on fixing the problem the right way. In this reality we call that keeping your eye on the ball.
You are really damn preachy.

There’s no point to the nhl cap if teams can get around it in April. Full stop. The reason doesn’t matter.
 
You are really damn preachy.

There’s no point to the nhl cap if teams can get around it in April. Full stop. The reason doesn’t matter.

I understand. I pierced the logic in your rationale so of course you now say the reason doesn’t matter. That’s an immature perspective. It’s a black and white POV that disregards both the facts and the principle of equitable treatment. And it’s noticeable that you completely avoided answering my question as to whether you have closely followed Landeskog’s recovery. For you, background and context is completely irrelevant. You’re eventually going to learn that’s an inflexible and unsophisticated POV. Life has a lot more nuance to it such that you should avoid being so utterly and insistently rigid in your thinking. It exemplifies a closed mind.
 
I understand. I pierced the logic in your rationale so of course you now say the reason doesn’t matter. That’s an immature perspective. It’s a black and white POV that disregards both the facts and the principle of equitable treatment. And it’s noticeable that you completely avoided answering my question as to whether you have closely followed Landeskog’s recovery. For you, background and context is completely irrelevant. You’re eventually going to learn that’s an inflexible and unsophisticated POV. Life has a lot more nuance to it such that you should avoid being so utterly and insistently rigid in your thinking. It exemplifies a closed mind.
Can i borrow you sometime
 
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