Landeskog returns. Avs loan him to AHL for conditioning stint

[red devil]

 

[TruePowerSlave]

Something might happen in the future, but that's part of the CBA negotiations. Unlike the supposed "tax-advantage", this one is actually fairly easy to solve with just applying the salary cap for post season as well.

I would rather not. Going to make the trade deadline more quiet.

 

[Freudian]

It's going to be so exciting to follow Eagles Calder Cup run with Landeskog on the team.

 

[LuGBuG]

This ain’t an Evander Kane stating he will be back situation, this is a player missing substantial time and working his way back. To even try and say anything around Landeskog resembles circumvention is asinine

No stop being bias. Landy was ready 2 years ago. Colorado has perfectly put all these pieces in place over 3 years all leading up to Landy coming back with the greatest multi season cap circumventing grand plan ever. Interesting to see how Vegas responds to this master class.

I expect them to put in a 10 year plan with a star in junior faking an injury only to come in unsigned in the 2035 playoffs.

 

[Sanderson]

I would rather not. Going to make the trade deadline more quiet.

So what?
It's hockey that matters. Whether the deadline is "entertaining" or not is insignificant compared to the integrity of the game.

It's not like deadlines were all quiet before teams realized they could abuse LTIR either...

 

[flyfysher]

So what?
It's hockey that matters. Whether the deadline is "entertaining" or not is insignificant compared to the integrity of the game.

It's not like deadlines were all quiet before teams realized they could abuse LTIR either...

Only someone that hasn’t followed Landeskog’s comeback efforts would characterize it as an abuse of LTIR. It’s not. Even Avs fans didn’t know if he could take contact just a couple of weeks ago.

 

[Soup Enthusiast]

3 pages of cap circumvention arguments is crazy work. Awesome to see Landy playing again.

 

[Schnooz]

Im not exactly the biggest Avs fan but this would be incredible.

One of the best hockey stories over the last decade

 

[John Mandalorian]

no, they could make a system in which a cap applies to the playoffs as a snapshot of the last day of the regular season and if you have an injured player like Landeskog who is expected to play for the playoffs but miss the season, you have to make it fit, either you replace the player for the season using LTIR like it is today but and the injured in ineligible to return for the playoffs, you dont put the player on LTIR and play without allowing the player to return when ready. That gets rid of cap shenanigans, teams shouldn't be able to benefit from injuries for the playoffs, and yes, this applies to Evander Kane as well.

Shenanigans? You say this like they didnt save cap space for him his first year out. And its not as if he played at all for several years unlike Kucherov and Stone. And im pretty sure the Avs would rather have Landeskog on their roster than Colton and Wood.

 

[lionsDen]

level playing field is important to me.

Mcdavid another year in Edmonton without a cup.

It doesn’t matter if you want Kane back or not. Your team is doing it as well… you’re deflecting

 

[Oilslick941611]

Mcdavid another year in Edmonton without a cup.

It doesn’t matter if you want Kane back or not. Your team is doing it as well… you’re deflecting

ok.....

notice how im talking about the situation and not the team.

 

[LOFIN]

Landy played limited minutes yesterday, part of the plan. But he's going again tonight, on a b2b. Tells you that yesterday went very well.

 

[zegrassyknoll]

Anyone thinking this is an attempt at cap circumvention must have been on the receiving end of a Landeskog crosscheck to the head.

 

[lionsDen]

ok.....

notice how im talking about the situation and not

I suggest following a new sport. Because the league has no intention in changing this anytime soon. If this has to do with the CBA/injury find the appropriate thread. Because otherwise your thread jacking

 

[Flukeshot]

I'm sure it's been said already, but this feels more like a now or never scenario for Landeskog. He's likely worked it out that if he can't make this conditioning stint work than he's missing the playoffs.

 

[SoundAndFury]

So what?
It's hockey that matters.

How are more stacked teams bad for hockey? If you want your team to win and envy other teams that manage to find ways to get better, just say so.

 

[RandV]

Only thing I can think of here:

 

[57special]

In related news, Mikko Koivu is making a comeback, and will be in the Iowa Wild lineup tonight.

 

[milehigh11]

It's going to be so exciting to follow Eagles Calder Cup run with Landeskog on the team.

It was reported he can only play in 3 games

 

[RoyIsALegend]

In related news, Mikko Koivu is making a comeback, and will be in the Iowa Wild lineup tonight.

…and the crowd yawned.

 

[flyfysher]

no, they could make a system in which a cap applies to the playoffs as a snapshot of the last day of the regular season and if you have an injured player like Landeskog who is expected to play for the playoffs but miss the season, you have to make it fit, either you replace the player for the season using LTIR like it is today but and the injured in ineligible to return for the playoffs, you dont put the player on LTIR and play without allowing the player to return when ready. That gets rid of cap shenanigans, teams shouldn't be able to benefit from injuries for the playoffs, and yes, this applies to Evander Kane as well.

Well, you’re the one throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Is there any utility to having LTIR? If so, why are you insisting on applying the cap to the POs? If you were the least bit familiar with Landeskog’s situation then you wouldn’t be arguing for penalizing Landeskog or the Avs. To even assert Landeskog’s situation is one and the same as Stone and Kucherov is utterly ludicrous and a completely biased stance. The VGK and TBL blatantly manipulated LTIR for cap purposes. The Avs didn’t. Stone and Kucherov went back to their clubs and resumed their normal positions. In contrast, it was unclear even two weeks ago whether Landeskog could even take contact. I also don’t think anyone who watched Landeskog play for the Eagles last night would assert he’s ready to resume his 1LW position after three years and one AHL conditioning stint game played with limited minutes. You want to change the rule because the vGK and the TBL exploited it. And you’re willing to screw over the Avs who have faithfully adhered to the LTIR rules without cheating on the cap. The Avs have had more than their fair share of injuries this season. But they didn’t place Manson or Wood on LTIR to bring Landeskog back when they easily could have done so. IOW, the Avs didn’t exploit the LTIR rules for cap purposes. The LTIR rules were promulgated precisely for a situation like Landeskog’s. But you want to overhaul it because others took advantage of it. If you really wanted to change and fix it, then have an independent medical examination (IME) regularly undertaken to determine the player’s fitness to return to play. If an IME finds the player is fit to play and the team hasn’t returned him to the ice then apply your rule. Then it doesn’t matter because as soon as the player is returned to the roster then the cap applies. But you seem more stuck on advocating for rigidly applying a rule that punishes all who invoke LTIR rather than trying to address the cap manipulation with a more reasonable approach that focuses on the one thing LTIR is for and also resolves the cap circumvention issue.

 

[AlysonChainz]

convenient timing, im guessing he'll be NHL ready the minute the cap stops applying eh?

Nothing about this complicated and traumatic injury has been convenient. Get out of here with this ridiculous take!

 

[forsbergavs32]

Goal and an assist for Lando so far tonight

 

[Sasha Orlov]

You really do love to see it

 

[roccerfeller]

This is an awesome story.

To come back from the type of injury he had…respect.