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expatriatedtexan said:
It just seems a dis-service to the man. He's not an AHL player. He's never been an AHL player. Do not assign him to the AHL for games. Sure... you want him to not travel and keep practicing... loan, loan, loan all you want. Do NOT dress him for that franchise, unless you plan on playing him there for awhile.


Again for me, it's a combination of respect for the player on top of the fact that there is nothing to see at the AHL level that you do not also see at the NHL that leads me to the conclusion that it's just a bad a idea.

Something I'm going to die on a hill about? No. Something that would probably always smart a bit... yeah.
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I get this, but at the same time he hasn’t played hockey in 3 years, so I’d be ok with him playing a couple with the Eagles for conditioning
 
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RoyIsALegend said:
So...

Eagles tickets for this Friday and Saturday have shot up in price big time.

Friday: https://tix.axs.com/65EMBgAAAAD8dyR5AAAAAAAE/v///wD/////BXRoZW1lAP///////////shop/search

Saturday: https://tix.axs.com/65EMBgAAAADbeiR5AAAAAABE/v///wD/////BXRoZW1lAP///////////shop/search

Usually, highest ticket rinkside would cost $158.

Right now... $279 on Friday and $374 on Saturday.

Cheapest usually $11.

Right now... $40 on Friday and $43 on Saturday.

Hmm...
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Wow, $158 for an AHL game ? In Denver. Really ?
 
I feel like they made a mistake not putting Manson and Girard on LTIR.

I believe they're about $1.2M short of having enough with just Manson on LTIR.

G missed two games with a lower body injury. Then came back and played four. Now he's missed the last three, and there's only four games left. So not enough to get to the 10 game + 24 days requirement.

Last game of the year on April 13th is 13 games and 24 days after his first missed game on March 20th.

They should have been planning on finding LTIR space for him to come back during the regular season if he could, and that was their opportunity with the lower body injury to Girard.
 
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His "return" will be when he plays his first game in the NHL, regardless of whether he played in the AHL or not. An AHL game would be like a practice. He practiced many times already, he may practice in an AHL game. I don't think that changes anything related to his return. The only question is whether or not its too dangerous. But then again if they're too scared to let him play a game or two in the AHL, then something's not right... It would mean that it wouldn't have worked anyway. It would suck bad that he wouldn't get to play a last game in the NHL, but it wouldn't change the real outcome.
 
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I don't see an AHL game like practice IMO. It's still a competitive game against pros, and it would be hyped up like crazy, with Gabe overwhelmed with emotions, but not many would be able to watch it.
 
One more reason to give him AHL games. Its about winning, not about marketing. Get a portion of the emotion, stress, fear and uncertainty out of the way, then stage an official NHL playoff comeback.
Win-win



Unless he gets injured in the AHL...:eek3:
 
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I'm surprised there are such divided opinions on Landeskog going on an LTIR conditioning stint with the Eagles.

To me, it's a no-brainer... yes, he should.

He hasn't played a second of hockey in over 1,000 days. Stepping into the intensity of the NHL playoffs after such a long layoff is a bad idea. Sure, the level of talent in the AHL is vastly different, but it's hockey. Getting shifts under him, evaluating how the knee feels after the game(s), all that stuff; it's important.

For those concerned he can't take a hit or some contact at the AHL level, I'm not sure what you're expecting if he just jumped in cold for NHL playoff hockey. Are guys like Benn and Marchment going to take it easy on him? I'd rather he has absorbed some contact before that and is able to withstand it. If you're thinking he's going to get hurt in the AHL or that he realizes he isn't ready after a game or three there, that was likely to happen at the NHL level as well. Imagine how demoralizing it would be for his teammates to watch him get re-injured, live, in his first game back on the ice with them. Crushing.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with him playing the remaining 3 games of the Eagles regular season schedule and then getting to rest for a week before the NHL playoffs start. In fact, that's ideal. It gives everybody some certainty; Landeskog, the coaching staff, everybody involved.
 
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RoyIsALegend said:
I'm surprised there are such divided opinions on Landeskog going on an LTIR conditioning stint with the Eagles.

To me, it's a no-brainer... yes, he should.

He hasn't played a second of hockey in over 1,000 days. Stepping into the intensity of the NHL playoffs after such a long layoff is a bad idea. Sure, the level of talent in the AHL is vastly different, but it's hockey. Getting shifts under him, evaluating how the knee feels after the game(s), all that stuff; it's important.

For those concerned he can't take a hit or some contact at the AHL level, I'm not sure what you're expecting if he just jumped in cold for NHL playoff hockey. Are guys like Benn and Marchment going to take it easy on him? I'd rather he has absorbed some contact before that and is able to withstand it. If you're thinking he's going to get hurt in the AHL or that he realizes he isn't ready after a game or three there, that was likely to happen at the NHL level as well. Imagine how demoralizing it would be for his teammates to watch him get re-injured, live, in his first game back on the ice with them. Crushing.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with him playing the remaining 3 games of the Eagles regular season schedule and then getting to rest for a week before the NHL playoffs start. In fact, that's ideal. It gives everybody some certainty; Landeskog, the coaching staff, everybody involved.
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Plenty of talentless fvcks on the sTars to worry about, might as well get in some ice time with the Eagles.
 
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RoyIsALegend said:
I'm surprised there are such divided opinions on Landeskog going on an LTIR conditioning stint with the Eagles.

To me, it's a no-brainer... yes, he should.

He hasn't played a second of hockey in over 1,000 days. Stepping into the intensity of the NHL playoffs after such a long layoff is a bad idea. Sure, the level of talent in the AHL is vastly different, but it's hockey. Getting shifts under him, evaluating how the knee feels after the game(s), all that stuff; it's important.

For those concerned he can't take a hit or some contact at the AHL level, I'm not sure what you're expecting if he just jumped in cold for NHL playoff hockey. Are guys like Benn and Marchment going to take it easy on him? I'd rather he has absorbed some contact before that and is able to withstand it. If you're thinking he's going to get hurt in the AHL or that he realizes he isn't ready after a game or three there, that was likely to happen at the NHL level as well. Imagine how demoralizing it would be for his teammates to watch him get re-injured, live, in his first game back on the ice with them. Crushing.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with him playing the remaining 3 games of the Eagles regular season schedule and then getting to rest for a week before the NHL playoffs start. In fact, that's ideal. It gives everybody some certainty; Landeskog, the coaching staff, everybody involved.
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I get what you're saying, but for me, the difference is that if he took a bad hit in the NHL, or his knee didn't hold up afterward, he at least got that return to the NHL moment he's been dying to have for three years.

If he was healthy enough to play, but something prevented that moment, it would be such a shame.

Playoff intensity and hits will be a lot to deal with. But the Avs could have given themselves a third option with a few meaningless regular season games, by putting Manson and Girard on LTIR earlier.
 
I understand both sides to this argument. The emotional side says no way, when he comes back it's gotta be with the Avs. I agree that they should have tried to give themselves cap space to get him into regular season games, but I mean maybe there were reasons for LTIR'ing certain guys.

I also think that it would be good for him to get AHL reps. But man, if something bad happens while with the Eagles it would be so disappointing. Like when Forsberg came back and never got to play a home game.
 
He needs to be as ready as possible with couple games under his belt.

If he doesnt get then we will just to wait, but man if the knee doesnt hold up after the game1 in Poffs then Avs mental playoff sheepness will kick in and they can start ordering golf rounds...
 
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Let him get his conditioning stint in the AHL. The goal for him is to perform well at an NHL level, not just to participate. If the concern is that he's a delicate flower who can't handle the AHL without getting hurt, then what the f*** do you expect him to do in the NHL during the Playoffs?
 
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