New York Islanders: Lamoriello Contract Not Renewed; John Collins Searching for Next GM

[Nosebleed40]

These are not inspiring names, almost like a half-assed list.

What I don’t get is it was just Lou and Lou running the show? Why is this such a big front office reshape?

 

[SRBisles]

If Holland has been their top choice, why isn’t it done already?

 

[MJF]

This list doesn’t exactly instill confidence. Hoping Gorton but not getting my hopes up.

Oh Art.

Stick with Elliotte Friedman on this one.

 

[MJF]

If Holland has been their top choice, why isn’t it done already?

I think Collins was planning to interview 15 candidates.

 

[Chardo]

What happens then...I start officially throwing up?

Staple said this may all change in an hour.

 

[Throttle]

I'm preparing myself to be disappointed. Imagine having dozens of good/young executives to interview and choose from throughout NHL circles, and you wind up going with a recycled GM who isn't even good enough to have that position right now....

Staple retweeted this below so sure sounds like he thinks it's accurate...

Fan and media talk is ‘recycled’ bc it’s not their money.

Experienced people get preference, well, bc they have experience. They are not ‘recycled.’

You are asking an owner to take a leap of faith into an inexperienced person. That rarely happens in sports, let alone real life.

 

[Throttle]

If Holland has been their top choice, why isn’t it done already?

Why not listen to everyone else’s ideas? That’s called due diligence.

 

[Throttle]

What if Holland is hired as President and then hires someone like Gorton to be GM?

I would not mind Holland at all. Is this the same guy that was the GM of the team that went to game 7 of the Cup last year? The same guy that was the GM of the Wings?

My lord, he’s awful, old boys club, hires his kid. LMAO.

 

[JJ18Sniper]

Lebrun reporting that it sounds like Hab's blocking Gorton.

 

[YearlyLottery]

I'm preparing myself to be disappointed. Imagine having dozens of good/young executives to interview and choose from throughout NHL circles, and you wind up going with a recycled GM who isn't even good enough to have that position right now....

Staple retweeted this below so sure sounds like he thinks it's accurate...

Holland is an unfair case right now though. Edmonton made the Stanley Cup Finals and Holland stepped away according to reports.

 

[IslesNorway]

It’s unbelievable how the old boys club keep getting jobs in this league. And that list of usual suspects is about as interesting as watching paint dry.

 

[The Last Red]

Lebrun reporting that it sounds like Hab's blocking Gorton.

He also probably has no interest in leaving the Habs. He’s the big boss there already.

 

[periferal]

I hope you all see where this is headed (and Botta is 10000% spot on here)...

 

[Taswell]

Holland is an unfair case right now though. Edmonton made the Stanley Cup Finals and Holland stepped away according to reports.

Holland got functionally replaced by Jackson so he stepped away.

 

[periferal]

If Holland has been their top choice, why isn’t it done already?

A billion reasons...

• They're haggling over money.
• The Sabres want him too and are offering a competitive deal.
• He's not sure what he wants to do with his future.
• He wants to make sure he can hire others at the same time so waiting on other "yeses."
• Holland/the Isles are negotiating what his role would be.
• Since he's older (69) they'd like to perhaps have a succession plan in place for GM and thus need to hire an up and coming GM with him and that takes time.
• It's already done, but Lou is still head of PR.

 

[periferal]

Staple said this may all change in an hour.

It's been an hour (and I don't like any of the other options it could change to).

 

[periferal]

What if Holland is hired as President and then hires someone like Gorton to be GM?

The concept of the question makes no sense. Gorton isn't going to leave an unbelievable job (where he's viewed as a savior right now), to go to any other position for less power and money.

And there's this...

 

[Spybot]

Holland couldn't manage to build a team around Mcdavid and Draisaitl and can't draft to save his life. All these old corpses are experienced at is failing. I guess he's really good at pretending he's a good GM? NHL country club dumpster diving strikes again.

 

[SI90]

Supposedly Lou is still involved in helping with the president GM search and is endorsing Holland. I just want a good collection of hockey minds. I’m not crazy about Holland. He’s like a lesser version of Lou without the fear and respect around the league.

If Holland is named President, which I’m hoping doesn’t happen, I do hope he brings on a younger up-and-coming GM candidate like a Darche and then hires a bunch of new scouts and modernizes I were drafting and scouting departments as well as player development departments too.

 

[Strummergas]

The concept of the question makes no sense. Gorton isn't going to leave an unbelievable job (where he's viewed as a savior right now), to go to any other position for less power and money.

And there's this...

Again,. "someone like Gorton". Doesn't specifically have to be him, but a younger up-and-comer who isn't necessarily part of "the old boys club".

Also, my post was not necessarily in favor of hiring Holland, but more asking the question of those vehemently against such a hire (like yourself), if getting a younger, fresher candidate in the GM role under him makes such a hire more palatable.

 

[MJF]

Holland couldn't manage to build a team around Mcdavid and Draisaitl and can't draft to save his life. All these old corpses are experienced at is failing. I guess he's really good at pretending he's a good GM? NHL country club dumpster diving strikes again.

Jack Campbell. Enough said.

 

[Lights911]

Really hopes Holland brings someone in as GM.

 

[Throttle]

Holland couldn't manage to build a team around Mcdavid and Draisaitl and can't draft to save his life. All these old corpses are experienced at is failing. I guess he's really good at pretending he's a good GM? NHL country club dumpster diving strikes again.

Yet the team went to Game 7 of the Cup last season.

Have all the young bucks won anything? Please enlighten.

 

[Lame Lambert]

Again,. "someone like Gorton". Doesn't specifically have to be him, but a younger up-and-comer who isn't necessarily part of "the old boys club".

Also, my post was not necessarily in favor of hiring Holland, but more asking the question of those vehemently against such a hire (like yourself), if getting a younger, fresher candidate in the GM role under him makes such a hire more palatable.

I think Holland with Darche would be more palatable. The last thing we need is another power-starved old man who refuses to delegate. Ideally, the POHO is here to build out systems (analytics, scouting, development, fixing Bridgeport etc.), and the GM would handle personnel decisions (roster, signings, trades, drafting, coaching).

 

[Spybot]

Yet the team went to Game 7 of the Cup last season.

Have all the young bucks won anything? Please enlighten.

Yet Edmonton wasn't interested in bringing him back. Maybe they weren't impressed with his worthless draft record and overall body of work after he had been GMing on easy mode with McDavid and Draisaitl - he won't have those in NYI. By young bucks you are referring to age? I don't necessarily care about age (though I do think Holland is quite old), I care if the GM canditate has been the longstanding member of the NHL's dinosaur club.

People like Holland, Chiarelli or Lamoriello have proven beyond doubt they don't have what it takes to create a perennial contender in the present day NHL. The recent cup winners are all helmed by various long term executives, "young" bucks, who one day got promoted and mostly haven't been GMing for very long - I want to find someone like that, among the current 'lesser' executives, not hire a proven dinosaur.