24 pts on 46 games. He started the season in Winnipeg with a 3 pt game before his major injury that kept him out until he returned, at which point he was on a new team...
My whole point was his performance as a Blue Jacket. It is a fact that as a Blue Jacket he was under 0.5 PPG in his first season. You also initially said that 9 points in 18 games is under 0.5 PPG, so you might need to brush up on your math skills and reading comprehension.
Idk if you've ever played sports or anything of the sort, but usually it takes some time to learn your place on a roster. Everyone is different, not everyone can be dropped in and instantly mesh with everyone around them.
Big whoop, you can act condescending all you want and make every excuse possible, he was complete dog shit that year. He's still playing hockey, and played 45/56 games that year as a Blue Jacket.
On top of recovering from an injury that kept him out half of the season, it takes can take a week or two just to get back into the routine of the rigors of traveling and playing in the NHL.
He missed 11 games that year, stop making stuff up.
The history that you broke down shows that he's expected to have a bad year if he gets traded to a new team. Since you're a professional athlete, you are saying it will take him over half a season to get adjusted on a team while also missing more games than ever. I'm assuming you'd think it'd be a miracle if he scored over 10 points given the circumstances right? Either way, you'll chalk it up to another outlier anyway.
The only seasons Laine has truly struggled have been seasons when he was struggling with injuries. Which like I just mentioned isn't just a Laine thing, it's hard to gain any consistency and routine when you're going back and forth from being with the team on the road to sitting at home rehabbing. To being dropped back into the middle of it.
I said it as a joke, but you seem to only value the games where he plays well while chalking up everything else to "injury/new team".
You're comparing two different metrics. You're comparing pts/season to points per game. Those aren't the same thing.
Rookie year - 73 gp - 64p = .87 PPG
Sophmore year - 82 gp - 70p = .85 PPG
3rd year - 82 gp - 50p - .60 PPG (down year)
4th year - 68 gp - 63p - .92 PPG
5th year - 1 gp - 3 p - 3 PPG
Average with the Jets .8 PPG
Trade
5th year - 45 gp - 21p - .46 PPG(down / injury year)
6th year - 56 gp - 56p - 1 PPG
7th year - 55 gp - 52p - .94 PPG
8th year - 18 gp - 9p - .5 PPG (down / injury year)
Average with CBJ .81 PPG
Career avg of .79 PPG
If you take out his two injury riddled seasons(64 games, 33pts .51ppg ) he's an .85ppg player for the other 416 games he's played.
Why would you take out his injury riddled seasons? It's part of the game and he's played those games, I expect you to know that as a high end professional athlete. If that's the case we should disregard any bad games a player had where he wasn't 100%, it would minimize Laine's 0.85 PPG which is still not PPG like you said.
You don't have to look at his best seasons. This is a business, he gets paid what he does because his ability to points on the board.
Which he hasn't done a good enough job to do it consistently.
So tell me, what's the outlier? .51 over 64 games or .85 over 416 games?
Might as well pull up his stats where he produces and ignore the games where he doesn't, I'm sure his numbers would look even better since you love cherry picking. Looking at tenures is more than fair. If his outliers are horrendous, that's on him.
Look, I'm not trying to say that he's going to rebound and perfectly healthy and everything will be fine. Or that He's going to have some massive trade haul. He's had injury issues over the last 4 seasons. But his ability to produce over those last 4 years hasn't changed. I would wager a ton of GMs think they if they can get him and he can stay healthy they can add a top line or top 6 talent for cheap right now. But it's up to Waddell to get what he's worth. And he's already said as much and if they don't get that value he's going to just keep him.
But you did say his history is a good indicator that he wouldn't struggle which is a blatant lie. If he has had injury issues for the past 4 years, that completely invalidates your point of "he can't produce when injured" since he was able to produce despite being injured.
If only there was someone else in the league who had a few years of not being able to stay healthy but was able to take the necessary extra time to let their body fully heal...
Oh wait there is. His name is Sean Monahan. He himself admitted he kept trying to rush back from injury instead of taking the necessary extra time to let his body heal. He did that and he went from being packaged with a first to get rid of him, to being worth a first.
No clue where you're going with this Monahan talk. Habs got paid a 1st to take on an extremely expensive contract, Monahan played well for a brief stint but then got injured for most of the season, then signed a dirt cheap contract and was healthy where he continued playing well. He literally got injured longterm with the Habs in his first year.
So yes, Laine can definitely bounce back (or not) and play a good chunk of games (or not), but when a team is giving up assets (not receiving a 1st like how the Habs did) there is a risk given his 8.7x2 contract. I never denied this and I definitely do see the appeal of Laine. But to claim that teams will ignore his inconsistent production in addition to his contract, and injury concerns is pure nonsense. He's not some established sure-fire PPG player like you're portraying him to be, a 60-70 point player is accurate.
