CBJWerenski8
Rest in Peace Johnny
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I'm referring to those who evaluate players based on information from journalists, or more accurately their opinions, but supposed insides. This applies not only to Portzline, but also to the Finnish journalists who described Jets locker room, for example.
what? Harris is black? lol I had no idea![]()
Black Jewish NHL player Jordan Harris has a goal: To diversify hockey
But Harris is also one of roughly a dozen Jews in the league, putting him in a class of one: the NHL’s only Black Jewish player on the ice.www.jpost.com
Gotta love the 3 word pick to stir some engagement lmao. Should be mandatory to least get a full quote or clip to read some of the tone and context from
Sillinger has good relationship with Laine. I looked at the original, Cole only briefly outlined what happened, without drawing conclusions.
Hahahah i found that clip. Really milking that quote to the absolute limit
I'm going into this with few pre-conceived notions. About the only one is that the Laine experiment was clearly a failure. Can you explain how you know the meeting happened when it did and who was involved?
Do you agree with Porty's assessment that Jarmo made desperate deals trying to save his job?
I put as much blame on Jarmo for Laine's struggles.
Jarmo's problem was he liked making big splashy deals to see his name in print when a smaller, safer (ie, boring) deal would have been a better course of action for the team.
Jarmo's other problem was not being on the same page as his coaching staff. Bringing in players that didn't play the kind of game the coach was demanding.
His third problem was he didn't value culture. In fact, he, himself, often made it worse. So we got all the drama that created a toxic stew. Just conjecture, but I would bet that didn't bring out the best in Laine and fed into his insecurities.
You're making a solid point but let's not forget Jarmo could have traded Laine in the summer of 2022 or sign him to a shorter deal than 4 years which would have been a more tradeable contract. I was in the small minority then that would have preferred either option over his current deal but Jarmo was clearly less skeptical about Laine's ability to fit in. So his initial decision to acquire Laine might have been the best possible move but the next one arguably wasn't, and it's a part of why it all ultimately "didn't work out" for CBJ.
Porty has been reporting Laine is about to get traded for the whole time he was here. I never felt his reporting around Laine was particularly unbiased or accurate, unless they've been trying to trade him for 3 years. I wouldn't expect it got better now that he got traded, personally I put about as much stock on his reporting around Laine as the fluff pieces in MTL media. Some interesting tidbits here and there but it's all spun into PR / what the fans want to hear. Understandably Columbus just got better through addition by substraction while Montreal got a great player for practically free.
Sure! It’s a message board.No one knows what was really going on, but that doesn't stop us from making inferences based on Portzline's words from 3 years ago.![]()
When Porty was asked his opinion on which direction the club should take, he said they should trade Laine. That came up a lot that way. He did not say they were about to trade him.
And I think he was right that they should have traded him earlier.
I don't believe you really know how much of a difference a shorter deal with more favorable NTC conditions could've had for some teams interested in trading for Laine in 2022 or 2023. The ultimate return for PLD could have been much more valuable than what now we ended up receiving.I don't know if that's what any of this really hinges on. Laine missed half his games and had a mental breakdown, and we still were able to trade him without retention. So if his contract was expiring instead of the extra two years it wouldn't have made a huge difference.
His father is African American and was a goalie. His mom is white.what? Harris is black? lol I had no idea
where portzline starts editorializing is where he connects dots between the meeting and the trades of jones/atkinson.Porty has been reporting Laine is about to get traded for the whole time he was here. I never felt his reporting around Laine was particularly unbiased or accurate, unless they've been trying to trade him for 3 years.
I don't disagree with your point about contract term, but the timeline here is important too:The bottom line is that Jarmo could have traded Laine before re-signing him, and possibly even after re-signing him.
Literally was on the team for 2 years and followed him for 2, never realizedHis father is African American and was a goalie. His mom is white.
Buttons criticism of the team isn’t wrong but to completely absolve Laine of any problems isn’t right. Button has always been a big Laine guy, which is fine, but he’s had his own share of problems with two teams now. Sometimes it’s a you problem.Holy Jesus.
- "I watched Laine in 2016 lead that World Junior team in Finnish soil to a gold medal. All the greats of finnish hockey were there, all calling and expecting a gold medal and he delivered it, boy did he deliver it. Laine has never had any issue dealing with pressure, he will not have any issues dealing with pressure. "
- "The Columbus blue jackets were a disaster when he was there, a disaster, a total disaster. Its a miracle anybody performed at all on that team. We should be celebrating Patrik Laine for standing up against the mess that was going on in Columbus, we should be celebrating Patrik Laine."
- "I am sick and tired hearing about you can't win with Patrik Laine. You know who you can't win with? The Columbus Blue jackets! And the mess of a management and ownership they have had for years. Players should be going, I think Patrik Laine is right, I can't win in Columbus, period. It was a joke."
- "If Patrik Laine truly was a “locker room cancer” the #Canadiens would not have traded for him!"
But it was dump, but speaks to the quality of past GMs etc, although I wonder if Button could have said that to the Columbus fans in their eyes. It's time to show that Columbus can be one of the best franchises.
- "What is Columbus in this league? A game on the schedule. That is all they had ever been"
Maybe he is a Laine's fan, but he has insides, so as for whether Laine was cancer or not, I would believe him. But I put this article because of the words about the quality of GMs etc. I had never thought it was so bad. I defended Jarmo but it seems in vain.Buttons criticism of the team isn’t wrong but to completely absolve Laine of any problems isn’t right. Button has always been a big Laine guy, which is fine, but he’s had his own share of problems with two teams now. Sometimes it’s a you problem.
That's nice. Button can go f*** himself. Him and anyone who buys the clickbait hot-take garbage he's selling.Holy Jesus.
- "I watched Laine in 2016 lead that World Junior team in Finnish soil to a gold medal. All the greats of finnish hockey were there, all calling and expecting a gold medal and he delivered it, boy did he deliver it. Laine has never had any issue dealing with pressure, he will not have any issues dealing with pressure. "
- "The Columbus blue jackets were a disaster when he was there, a disaster, a total disaster. Its a miracle anybody performed at all on that team. We should be celebrating Patrik Laine for standing up against the mess that was going on in Columbus, we should be celebrating Patrik Laine."
- "I am sick and tired hearing about you can't win with Patrik Laine. You know who you can't win with? The Columbus Blue jackets! And the mess of a management and ownership they have had for years. Players should be going, I think Patrik Laine is right, I can't win in Columbus, period. It was a joke."
- "If Patrik Laine truly was a “locker room cancer” the #Canadiens would not have traded for him!"
But it was dump, but speaks to the quality of past GMs etc, although I wonder if Button could have said that to the Columbus fans in their eyes. It's time to show that Columbus can be one of the best franchises.
- "What is Columbus in this league? A game on the schedule. That is all they had ever been"
The fact that there was a mess was said by others, personally, I did not believe that so much. But minimum the last words were too much. He is a public figure, he must control what he says in the media.That's nice. Button can go f*** himself. Him and anyone who buys the clickbait hot-take garbage he's selling.